Cut Wasteful Military Spending!

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Reps. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), Ron Paul (R-Texas), Walter B. Jones (R-N.C.) and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) held a press conference to call for an open discussion about the efficacy, the extent, and cost of overseas U.S. military commitments.


Should military spending be reduced and by how much? ...Or should it be increased?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.

More money would be saved just telling them to come home entirely.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Tell the military you're going to cut their pay for their service. Happy Memorial Day to you as well.

More money would be saved just telling them to come home entirely.

They don't want to come home otherwise they wouldn't have signed up.

Out of all the candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, Ron Paul received the most donations from military personnel.  And he's the only candidate who opposed the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The weekly standard thinks other wise, and secondly I have seen Ron Paul's donation numbers debunked before. In any event this thread is not about Ron Paul.

The Weekly Standard "debunked" the fact that Ron Paul received the most donations from military members?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Recruiters are hilarious.  I went along with one in my earlier days just to hear all the bull they'd try to pass as fact.

And drastically reducing military spending should be a universal belief.  Even if you're Derek, you should be pissed about defense contractors chronically going over budget and making promises they can't deliver on weapons they can't build.  They're hurting our economy.

Oh and people sign up to defend our country not to go wherever to fight whoever.  That's a big problem with the Department of Defense these days.  It's the Department of Offense.

When did you start making rational posts?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Option 1, but only after we are well out of the recession. Don't want to lay off people now.

Uh, one reason we are in recession is because we waste so much damn money on government boondoggles like the "Defense" department.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I'm saddened that nobody has mentioned that we should cut ALL "wasteful" spending, military or otherwise.  Of course we should cut wasteful military spending....it's wasteful.

I wonder what the numbers would be if we questioned if we should cut wasteful educational spending.

Yes, we should cut all wasteful spending. But military spending is by far the greatest offender.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy?

Me? That would work except for it's too late.

I was talking to fezzy. You've made it clear that you do not support a conservative foreign policy.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy?

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy?

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Those are all good ideas but how do we achieve them?

End the wars, bring the troops home (from all 130 countries they're stationed in), end foreign aid, abolish tariffs, abolish managed trade agreements like NAFTA, end sanctions and embargoes like that against Cuba, etc, etc.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Dramatically reduced.

When people talk about waste in government, the DoD should be a prime example.

Happy Memorial Day to you too.

Yes, today we remember all the innocent lives ruined and destroyed thanks to the U.S. government and its long history of senseless warmongering.

You're politicizing their deaths.

Politicizing their deaths is using it as an excuse to push your political agenda of a huge military and interventionist foreign policy.  That's politicizing their deaths.  Saying things like, "don't you care about those people who died?" so you can guilt people into accepting your politics.  That's politicizing their deaths.

Have you adopted support for a non-interventionist foreign policy?

It's not so much that I'm non-interventionist as I am not interventionist.  I'm not opposed to the idea of alliances and strong foreign trade relations, but I'm not big on forcing our way on others or using international power to gain more support by force.

Trade relations are compatible with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

The basic principles of a non-interventionist foreign policy are the old Jeffersonian dictum:
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations – entangling alliances with none."

Those are all good ideas but how do we achieve them?

End the wars, bring the troops home (from all 130 countries they're stationed in), end foreign aid, abolish tariffs, abolish managed trade agreements like NAFTA, end sanctions and embargoes like that against Cuba, etc, etc.

That sounds like isolationism.

It's not, however.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

There are quite a few Pentagon projects that need to be slashed to pieces (I've made my opposition to the National Missile Defense program quite clear elsewhere), but that should be coupled with pay-and-benefit rises for our servicemen.

What is the reason for this?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

If anything it needs to be increased each year until Al-Qaida is no more!

If you want to get rid of al-Qaeda, cutting the CIA budget is the way to go.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

If anything it needs to be increased each year until Al-Qaida is no more!

If you want to get rid of al-Qaeda, cutting the CIA budget is the way to go.

How so?

The CIA wouldn't be able to afford maintaining al-Qaeda.