PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

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https://twitter.com/lxeagle17/status/1561503087671488512

Based on a previous tweet of being in next week's LWT episode I think it's John Oliver.

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Oz seems to fail to understand the rule of holes.

No, when you're in a whole you just keep digging and eventually you wind up on the other side of the world in New Jersey.

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Btw, I know several people who work for the NRSC and almost everyone thinks Oz will lose. 

Are they like 'yeah, he'll probably lose' (2020 AZ-SEN) or are they like 'okay Oz is probably f@cked let's redirect funding' (2020 CO-SEN)

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Btw, I know several people who work for the NRSC and almost everyone thinks Oz will lose. 

Are they like 'yeah, he'll probably lose' (2020 AZ-SEN) or are they like 'okay Oz is probably f@cked let's redirect funding' (2020 CO-SEN)

Somewhere in between, but closer to the latter.

Does anyone think the Oz campaign will turn things around as far as campaigning goes or are they set in their ways?

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Brutal.
https://twitter.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1562588501635256328

This is targeted right at the rural crowd.

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Brutal.
https://twitter.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/1562588501635256328

This is targeted right at the rural crowd.

Dems no longer know how to appeal to rural America and this ad only amplifies it. Painting a TV show doctor celebrity born in Ohio as a Turkish radical is just hilarious. These strategists people think it's 2002 and rural voters are going to vote against someone because he is a Muslim. Anyway, Turkey is a member of NATO, and is actually doing more to help Ukraine than the US is lol.

It worked with Mexicans.

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Big news here, Fetterman will NOT attend the first senate debate
https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1564734464353345544?s=20&t=a348MBD0oWYH4P6pn...

Can someone call me “a liar, a liberal, and a coward” so I can put it in my signature? What an epithet.

No you lying liberal coward!

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Maybe not the best thing to say when you’re already struggling with the MAGA base
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1567182934393688064?s=21&t=6s5SQgj5frJ...

Tilt D -> Tilt R.

You just broke your own record for dumbest electoral takes.

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https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1567242496497045504
........what?

EDIT:

My daughters hate my smell.

Debating making this my new signature

Why does Jezebel of all places consider second-cousin romance to be "incest"?   Are they late medieval Catholic bishops?

American society in general is incredibly persnickety about consanginuity by world standards. It might be a holdover from the strength the eugenics movement once had here or something.

The issue with that is eugenics is complete bs, whereas there are actual genealogical concerns over incest.

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https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1567297054791335936
Tilt Fetterman -> Tilt Oz

Can anyone really confidently say Lamb would be doing worse than Fetterman at this point? Between the jogger ad designed to depress black turnout, debate dodge, and the incoherent speeches. Oz has more of opening than he ever would’ve with Lamb.

Yes, Dr. Oz is seen positively and very relatable among Black voters. WTF

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https://twitter.com/BruinGOP/status/1569386915107045376?s=20&t=MdeWmP1xxyZMQ...
Tossup -> Safe D

This is what I think is unfortunate about the GOP.

On the Dem side, a lot of the progressive base at least understands that even if you disagree on your Dem candidate on even major issues, voting for them is still the best option. Yet on the GOP side a candidate support SSM (a relatively minor issue for non-LGBTQ folks), they're instantly blasted. I think it goes to show a lot of homophobia still exists within the party even if they're slowly evolving on the issue overall.

I feel like if Oz were smart, he could actually view the issue through a pretty scientific lens, like not culturally endorsing it but explain why evolutionarily homosexual couples have a role in society.

But teh GOP has moderated on social issues .

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Could be a fundraising ploy, but I have seen more Oz ads lately.

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1570881860313677825

A private email to donors does sound like a fundraising ploy, yes.

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And there's the retweet from Fetterman.

Run with the story, find the man, and if he's alive, pay for his rehab. I expected the quack pills but I didn't expect him to feed a man's heroin addiction for views.

Oz's stunts won't go well with the rurals (who were hit hard by the opioid crisis) and the urban areas (who were hit hard and are still hit hard by the war on drugs).

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lol:

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1572258580996276232?cxt=HHwWkIC-9ay25NE...

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lol:

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1572258580996276232?cxt=HHwWkIC-9ay25NE...

Brilliant.

This is probably the best response he could have given.

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Fetterman is hosting an event in Philadelphia:

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1573458346933354505?cxt=HHwWkoCw3fWBhtY...

Another event with Dwight Evans (also in Philly) will take place tomorrow.

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https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1573774529075331072

SECULAR TRIFECTA retained!

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Just saw an Oz ad during the Eagles' game (RIP Carson Wentz) pelting Fetterman for his support of student loan forgiveness.  

During one scene, the ad showed a steel worker with a hard hat wiping his brow and decrying that hard-working tax payers would have to pay off the student loans of "gender studies" majors and "bartenders with blue hair".  

I have mixed feelings about student loan forgiveness, but the ad's message that only blue-collar workers pay their taxes was equal parts laughable and enraging.  

I don't think thats the message though of the ad. Rather that people who made the right financial choices and did not go into debt for useless degrees should not have to pay to forgive the loans of people who did go into debt for those types of degrees.

I doubt most people saw it that way.

Not to mention, plenty of blue collar workers have kids who took on debt to go to college.

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I really hate a lot of the criticism that the student loan plan is getting because so much of it is based on assumptions. I went off on this in another thread a few weeks back and really don't want to repeat myself by addressing every aspect of the argument, but is it really realistic to expect college students to have their whole life figured out before taking on loans for what they may want to study in school? And isn't it also possible that blue collar workers might have gone to college for some time or even graduated before taking on the job they did, even possibly taking on some student debt of their own? I get why the "blue-haired" urban-dwelling millennial with a non-technical degree and "lowly" job is built up as the straw-man they are in order to get the right people feeling resentful, but it's so presumptuous and kind of offensive to any of the large swathes of people of all demographics, backgrounds, and occupations who have incurred student debt (like Penn Quaker Girl).

In a rational country the debate on student loans and higher education would be based on why students have to take on debt in the first place, the price of tuition, society's job market necessitating a college degree as the equivalent of a high school diploma for generation's past, and what to do about all that. But we obviously do not live in a rational country that can have good faith debates like that and instead make the bandage that is the Biden proposal out to be some sort of inconvenience to "real, responsible Americans."

Student loans being so readily available without any sort of underwriting or questions is part of why college tuition is so expensive, and bailing out the poorly structured system is just going to continue to make the college inflation problem worse and worse.

This is the same problem with most of the democratic parties policies today, and it is why we are seeing such persistent inflation despite the Federal Reserve's constant 0.75 rate hikes. It's honestly baffling seeing how poorly the democratic party's handling of the economy is; I'm generally more liberal on the economics side but it doesn't take a genius to see why dumping so much money into the economy doesn't make a lick of a sense.

Okay, so how do we make college more affordable so loans aren't as necessary? And wouldn't having loans partially forgiven give people the ability to spend more money on others things instead, thus stimulating the economy more and benefiting society as a whole?

College and education is a libtard indoctrination program, so obviously right wingers will be better off dying in poverty to own the libs.

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It's not a bad campaign strategy, but is Oz really preaching to any swing voters on Fox?

I think you'd probably be surprised by the diversity of thought among cable news viewers of any channel. Sure, Fox viewers are disproportionately Republican and MSNBC's are disproportionately Democratic, but there is a fair amount of crossover. Fox in particular doesn't draw its large viewership from nowhere and is broadcast in a lot of places (restaurants, barbershops, etc.) as background ambience.

Plus, it's always a good idea to put your face in front of people who already agree with you to remind them to turn out.

Is Oz hoping Mastriano helps him with the MAGA base while he appeals to the more suburban/exurban McCormick folks?

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It’s funny that Mastriano will almost certainly be a huge part of the reason Oz loses, assuming he does. For a while it really seemed like the reverse was more likely, but credit to Oz for fighting hard every day and campaigning and getting his face out there while Mastriano has just sat around doing nothing.

What do you mean? Mastriano has been a top surrogate for Shapiro.

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It's also possible Shapiro's coattails (it's looking like he might win by double digits) drag Fetterman across the finish line, à la Baldwin/Evers 2018

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https://twitter.com/SarahLongwell25/status/1575885073299427328

F@ck

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Once again I think there is a non-negligible chance Fetterman gets carried over the finish line by Shapiro. The Governor's race has a greater chance of Shapiro winning by double digits than Mastriano winning, and one has to think that if there are enough swing voters who will also pull the lever for Fetterman as well. This is a documented phenomenon. Evers probably would have lost without Baldwin, for instance.

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Suddenly all of the poll movement makes sense

Hard to argue anybody watching Fox News at any hour of the day was a serious swing vote. Could have helped firm up some of that soft support Oz has gotten in recent weeks though.

The GOP base in PA is like 45%. Oz going from like 40% to 45% was expected, while Fetterman hasn't really gone down much.