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« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2020, 12:04:48 PM »



NYT had a good article on Duckworth today, I don't think this is the list.

Stop trying to make Duckworth happen.  Mock
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« Reply #126 on: August 01, 2020, 12:08:05 PM »


4 minority women. You love to see it.
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« Reply #127 on: August 01, 2020, 12:09:07 PM »

Ah, that YouGov part was across *ALL* registered voters.

Harris is the clear lead with Democrats / Biden voters, as well as Black voters. She is a close first among Hispanic voters, and Warren just beats her out among white voters and indies.

Black voters
Kamala Harris 31%
Susan Rice 14%
Elizabeth Warren 14%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 10%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Val Demings 9%
Everyone else 5% or lower

Hispanic voters
Kamala Harris 32%
Susan Rice 25%
Elizabeth Warren 13%
Gretchen Whitmer 10%
Everyone else 5% or lower

White voters
Elizabeth Warren 26%
Kamala Harris 21%
Susan Rice 14%
Stacey Abrams 10%
Tammy Duckworth 7%
Everyone else 5% or lower

Democrats
Kamala Harris 33%
Elizabeth Warren 20%
Susan Rice 12%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Tammy Duckworth 6%
Everyone else 5% or lower

Biden voters
Kamala Harris 32%
Elizabeth Warren 21%
Susan Rice 15%
Stacey Abrams 9%
Tammy Duckworth 6%
Everyone else 5% or lower

Independents
Elizabeth Warren 22%
Kamala Harris 21%
Susan Rice 17%
Tammy Duckworth 8%
Stacey Abrams 8%
Everyone else 5% or lower

The clear choice.
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« Reply #128 on: August 01, 2020, 01:12:42 PM »

[tweet]https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1289599832093417478
4 minority women. You love to see it.
Lmaoooo. Bye!
🤭🤭🤭
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« Reply #129 on: August 01, 2020, 01:13:42 PM »

YouGov poll:

Who do you think should be picked as VP?

Kamala Harris 25%
Elizabeth Warren 22%
Susan Rice 14%
Stacey Abrams 8%
Tammy Duckworth 6%
Gretchen Whitmer 5%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 5%
Val Demings 4%
Tammy Baldwin 3%
Karen Bass 3%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 2%
Gina Raimondo 2%

Who do you think Biden is most likely to pick?

Kamala Harris 37%
Elizabeth Warren 18%
Susan Rice 16%
Stacey Abrams 7%
Gretchen Whitmer 4%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 4%
Val Demings 3%
Tammy Duckworth 3%
Karen Bass 3%
Tammy Baldwin 2%
Gina Raimondo 1%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1%

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/9wv681pl48/20200730_yahoo_coronavirus_toplines.pdf
Kamala is #1 among rural voters - that's surprising.
Bbbbut SF coastal elite!!!1
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« Reply #130 on: August 01, 2020, 01:58:35 PM »

I still stand by my belief that the problem with a VP Harris isn’t with the 2020 election or governing, but with the direction she’d take the party in 2024 and beyond.
Which is?
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« Reply #131 on: August 01, 2020, 02:18:33 PM »

Anyway..
Ughh, hope it's not Warren. Don't know that I could live with her being president if Biden died or with her running in his stead in 2024. Harris seems like the most solid choice of everyone mentioned.
Warren, like Rice is a lightning rod for the right. Do no harm. Republicans WILL relitigate Benghazi. You can count on it.
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« Reply #132 on: August 01, 2020, 02:23:40 PM »

From the WSJ, 1 hour ago:

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Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, one of Mr. Biden's Democratic primary opponents, also remains among the leading contenders, the people said. Ms. Warren, who has advised Mr. Biden on economic policy, remains popular among the party's liberal base and has been promoted by a number of leading Biden allies.

Three Black women have risen to be top contenders, according to people close to the campaign, after an unusually public vetting process in which Mr. Biden has been urged by some Democrats to choose a woman of color as his running mate. Candidates and their allies have been making their final pitches to Mr. Biden’s team in recent days in phone calls and virtual meetings due to the coronavirus pandemic, the people said. Rep. Karen Bass (D., Calif.) and former national security adviser Susan Rice have been gaining traction in recent weeks, joining California Sen. Kamala Harris as top candidates of color who are under consideration, according to the people close to the campaign.

This is nothing that hasn't already come from other places. The truth is if the inner circle likes Duckworth, they're going to keep it quiet.
Why would they? To introduce a virtual unknown to the public 90 days before the election? 🤔 Would make more sense to get her name/positive attributes out there for public consumption
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« Reply #133 on: August 01, 2020, 02:27:05 PM »

I think with Duckworth\KLB being named permanent co-chairs of the campaign, they're effectively out of contention (for VP anyway). I can totally see Duckworth as Secretary of Defense. A much better pick than Gillibrand, tbh.
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« Reply #134 on: August 01, 2020, 02:34:37 PM »


It's happening.
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« Reply #135 on: August 01, 2020, 08:58:01 PM »

Days running mates were announced

2016: July 15 (Pence); July 23 (Kaine)

2012: August 11 (Ryan)

2008: August 23 (Biden); August 29 (Palin)

2004: July 6 (Edwards)

2000: July 25 (Cheney); August 8 (Lieberman)

So Biden really isn't that far behind by historical standards.

Why was 2008 so late?

Later Olympics, later conventions.

I remember getting that text message. Memories
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« Reply #136 on: August 01, 2020, 10:44:57 PM »

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.
No she isnt.
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« Reply #137 on: August 01, 2020, 11:09:44 PM »

Anyway...8 more days.
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« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2020, 11:25:54 PM »

At this point I'm expecting Joe to just announce at the convention lmao
I am..intrigued at this idea. More so , how it would work.
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« Reply #139 on: August 02, 2020, 12:01:38 AM »

Nate Silver seems to like Duckworth now. She really is a much more unifying pick for Biden in a general election than someone like Harris.
No she isnt.

She is far better for people who live outside the coasts, just has a better life story. If the Dems want to maximize the Senate, Harris is a mistake as VP.
Losing one's legs does not automatically mean "a better life story"
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« Reply #140 on: August 02, 2020, 11:48:28 AM »

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

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“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”

I think this effectively eliminates her. "Simpatico"
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« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2020, 11:57:12 AM »

Bass was on Fox News Sunday this morning, and talked about being ready to be veep, and also addressed differences between her and Biden over health reform:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-vp-hopeful-bass-regrets-past-castro-comment

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“I think anybody that is willing to become vice president, if they’re invited, should be ready and I think that I am,” Bass said.

Bass has a different position on health care from Biden. She is in favor of "Medicare-for-all," while Biden supports having a public option without doing away with private insurance. Bass denied saying that Biden has the wrong idea, while still maintaining that the country should move toward having health care as a right for all.

“No, I don’t think that the vice president is wrong at all,” Bass said. “What I do believe in is that health care should be a right. I think that we should be like the rest of the industrial nations and provide health care. But what I believe specifically is that we need to repair the damage that was done and has been done over the last ten years to the Affordable Care Act. We need to repair the damage, we need to expand that, and then over time we need to figure as a nation, how do we make health care as a right for everyone.”


Eh

She's out
Imagine having to explain your policy differences with the top of the ticket(especially on something as contentious as M4A), every interview/vp debate. Yikes
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« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2020, 11:58:30 AM »

Question, is Warren's stance on M4A the same as it was during the primary? Or has she moderated a bit in an attempt move to the center..
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« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2020, 12:07:22 PM »

hmm
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« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2020, 12:11:45 PM »


 hmm

I have no problem with this statement

This is kinda of a weak swipe on Duckworth

and I don't even support picking her
agree.
I'm watching her interview with Chris Wallace right now. She was pretty solid. Tbh.
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« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2020, 12:46:34 PM »

Any other vp contenders making the talkshow rounds today, part from Duckworth/Bass?
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« Reply #146 on: August 02, 2020, 02:48:50 PM »

Corrupt Kamala would be a disaster. Its dreadful.

Let it out, chile.
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« Reply #147 on: August 02, 2020, 03:33:20 PM »

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

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On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."


She realized that NOW? After 16 trips to Cuba? And being a sitting Congresswoman for almost a decade? Give me a break. What a joke. The campaign doesn't need this distraction.
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« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2020, 03:38:12 PM »

More from Bass’s Fox News Sunday interview: Here’s what she said about the Castro comments:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/02/karen-bass-fidel-castro-390413

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On “Fox News Sunday,“ the California Democrat faced questions about several visits to Cuba in the 1970s and a statement she released after Castro's 2016 death saying, "the passing of the Comandante en Jefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba.”

Bass told Fox host Chris Wallace that her perspective "developed over time" and that she now understood that the Castro government "was a brutal regime." Bass said she spoke with colleagues from Florida who raised concerns about her comments and that she "would not do that again, for sure."

"I absolutely would have not put that statement out," she said.

She was then asked if this would nonetheless put a political target on her back, to have praised a communist dictator, and she said that any other Democrat would face similar accusations, because Republicans "have decided to brand the entire Democratic Party as socialists and communists."


She realized that NOW? After 16 trips to Cuba? And being a sitting Congresswoman for almost a decade? Give me a break. What a joke. The campaign doesn't need this distraction.

Yeah, this is obvious damage control. Bass won’t be VP.

Chris Dodd must feel like an (even bigger) idiot.
The way this all backfired is freaking hilarious.
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« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2020, 03:49:45 PM »

This is why Trump wanted to run against Bernie. Remember how he kept praising Sanders and blowing him up during the primaries back in January and February, while bashing the "Democratic establishment" represented by Biden? In retrospect it's because he knew he could easily label Sanders as extremist and use things like his position on Cuba against him.

Interesting that today though, Trump seems to favor Harris. He says good things about her, while bashing alternatives like Warren.
Warren's an easy target. DNA test, "far left" policy positions , sabotaging Bernie by staying in, etc. It would be much harder and quite frankly weird for him to attack Harris from the left on CJ issues and the like.
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