The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

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See that conservatives and Libertarians suddenly become fearful of the overreach of police Authority when it's used to actually PROTECT minorities. However when it's used to keep them in their place instead of protesting, of course the sky's the limit.

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jmtrex is a good poster. 

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I don’t mean what do you like about his policies.


What do you like about his character?

Funny how Republicans whine about this being an echo chamber but never answer or respond when given the chance to speak up.

note the time stamps

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At long last, the highly-coveted thread that officially marked the beginning of Atlas Fantasy Elections!

Fun fact: The R-SD guy in that thread is currently the Attorney General of South Dakota!

At first I didn't believe you so I looked it up and yeah, that's definitely him. No idea who else "jravnsbo" could be. Shame he isn't here now, I always like actual politicians on Atlas.

So, are there any posts of his that we could leak to take him down in a future South Dakota election?

That's a perfectly defensible post, given 90% of the posters here at any one point should not be running for elected office.

Badger ran for office, Sanchez would have run for office hadn't Trump been President, Moun was a State Rep, Torie ran for office.

Wait wait wait what office would I run for?

From what I remember, you wanted to run for office to further Buchanan-Pauliteism before Trump had done so.

Nope, I’m far to introverted and awkward to run for anything. I wanted to be a party operative with the intent of building a coalition similar to Trump’s movement, but Trump’s election ensured that such a goal was accomplished. I currently manage an entire block of industrial real estate my dad owns, which can support me and both my brothers for our entire lives assuming we manage it properly.

I misread that as "an entire block of industrial waste."  pretty impressive to be able to live off of that.

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Even CNN, which is biased as can be, aired a segment about Trump where they were pointing out that in private he was "kind".  (IIRC, it's from a show in 2016:  "Donald Trump:  All Business".

So is Hillary by all accounts but that didn't stop you from accusing her of running an underground child sex ring from a pizza parlor.

Quote where I did that, or admit you're lying.

It's that simple.  Put up or admit you're lying. 

I'm talking about your party. As hard as it might be to imagine, not everything is about you personally.

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In the last 15 years, Rehnquist, Scalia, and Ginsburg have died, but no one died on the court between 1954 and 2005.

It seems like it used to be more common to retire under a hostile President. I don't think Douglas liked Ford much and Hughes retired (the first time) to run against Wilson.

"Hostile president" didn't used to be a thing.  All this hyper-partisanship really began with Nixon, and even then, he initially tried to get a segregationist on the court, then reverted to normal picks once Congress put its foot down.  The politicization of the court kicked into high gear under Reagan with the Bork nomination, which conservatives still complain about 33 years later (see Bret Stephens' op-ed in the NYTimes today).  But even then, the Democrats approved Anthony Kennedy unanimously.

It utterly amazes me how butthurt they get over a guy who was Nixon’s lackey in Watergate and had utterly repulsive views on what a company can do to their female employees 🙄

Really? That shouldn't amaze anybody, given how they're all Trump-lackey wannabe's & would probably have just as repulsive views on what they could do to women if electoral realities actually allowed for them.

This is some incredible content: Bret Stephens, David French, etc. are all "Trump-lackey wannabe's" !

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I support Trump on this. This was used as a smear against him and is just locker room talk. Every man is like this and most women too, i believe. I'm demisexual, so not me though. I'm not interested in sex as long there is no deep emotional connection between us. But I believe sex is way too much of a taboo still in our current society and support the sex industry although i will never make use of it. I don't watch porn or visit sex workers because of a lack of interest, not of religious motives. If anything, i'm even glad Trump is so open about sex. Every politician is a ing hypocrite on this. It made me more likely to support Trump! He should be proud of the leaked tape. It shows he's a healthy man.

What is wrong with it.

Bragging about assaulting women isn't cool. Men who assault women are weak, not strong.

He never bragged about assaulting women. That's not what "grab em by the pussy" means.

Serious question. WTF is the matter with you?

I apologize.

Badger is the one who should apologize.

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dude even icespear was not this unironic about the WV stuff

IceSpear understood what a lot of people don't and that's that there isn't this secret group of left wing populists in Appalachia, it's full of racists, who'd want nothing more than minorities, like me, to fail in life. Forgive me, if I don't exactly hold favorable views of them.

It sounds like you are turning your hostile obsession with them into thinking they have a hostile obsession with you.

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Probably the weirdest post of all time:

Due to life span increase, approaching 80, there is an adjustment

RED growth process, blue early signs of death

Infancy: 0-3
Toddler 3-6 Early childhood
Childhood 3-12 Pre-Teen
Puberty: 12-20 Adams apple in Men, and Cycle for women
Adulthood 20-40 continiue to grow.
Middle Aged 40-65 stoppage of growth, tooth decay and fuller stomach and diabetes sets in
Senior Citizen 65-100 end of life cycle, seizers, heart attacks or cancer causes death

how so?  It's on topic at least.

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Can we bring back the guillotine just for the Lieberman’s (and Tarver)?

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I'm going to assume if Biden wins, it's just going to be more gridlock since the GOP is going to keep the Senate most likely?

So the climate is fcked, is what you're saying.

Well, we're all f***ed! Which is just what happens when you grant stupid people the right to vote. How can you expect them to decipher the true nature of empirical reality?! Not possible. You need to start viewing them as animals, and act accordingly.

what are any of us, really, but animals who fail to understand the true nature of empirical reality?

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On a related note, I’m really just getting sick of f—king idiots trying and failing to challenge me intellectually. You have a subzero chance of ever besting me in a battle of wits, you’re doomed before you even try, so... why even try? It’s literally just an embarrassing self-own for you, every time. Many a man has tried to outsmart me on this site and elsewhere; every single one just ended up with massive amounts of egg on their face. I cringe for them all. At a certain point you’d think people would just accept that they have absolutely no chance of successfully challenging me over anything, yet they smugly keep trying and failing anyway. I can’t say I understand why people insist on repeatedly making themselves look like total fools in front of the entire world, but by all means keep it up and I’ll just keep swatting down you down like the flies you are. I’m being benevolent, I think, by trying to warn you against your own stupidity. But you know, stupid is as stupid does I guess.

LOL, go ahead. I can certainly understand how that would sound dramatic and ridiculous to most people. But you know? As someone with a Southern accent from Kentucky, I’ve frequently throughout my life been sneeringly judged, underestimated, and ridiculed by the likes of John Dule. People who I know for a fact I am much more intelligent than, yet they act like I’m some stupid hick who’s not worth their precious time talking to. And it gets to me, frankly. Gets real deep under my skin. So insults to my intelligence, especially ignorant and blatantly absurd insults like that one which prove the person saying it is too dumb to even understand the very basics of what I am saying, are taken VERY personally. And when you cross that line, I take it as a cue to take the gloves off and f—k you up. Because I don’t abide smug, ignorant fools pretending they are smarter than me. That just ain’t something I’m gonna stand for, anywhere, ever.

the first one is copypasta, right?

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Anyway, if true, it's good to finally see a Republican rising star have their career ruined. Usually that only happens to Democratic rising stars. I'm probably being naive though because Republicans don't actually care about their members' scandals. Crenshaw will still probably be here to stay and have a career in higher office.

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You know who's an attractive man? George Will.

if you are going for elder conservative writers, i would say Richard Brookheiser.

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No, and the five (thus far) people that voted yes, jokingly or unjokingly are just as bad as the terrorist insurrectionists that carried out these attacks.

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If, for example, you say that Ayatollah Kohmeini was better than Saddam Hussein, certain people on this forum will go after you for being a Shia theocrat.    For whatever reason their minds have trouble thinking in relative terms.

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race is far more a social construct than gender is. 

The rest of the comment aside, do you disagree with this?

How would you measure the degree to which something is "more a social construct" than something else?

Gender roles are clearly based on the natural biological differences between the sexes. Do you think that racial roles in our society are the product of natural biological differences between the races?

The idea that gender roles are biologically determined is heavily overblown.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/prehistoric-female-hunter-discovery-upends-gender-role-assumptions

The biological fact is that we males are only needed as sex objects.

There's a difference between "based in" and "determined by."  Being based in biological sex differences doesn't mean it's the only thing it's based in, and doesn't erase the societal-specific adaptation of these differences that lead to wide variation. But the impact of sex differences shows up in cross-cultural trends.

https://twitter.com/Scientific_Bird/status/1328680587742351361?s=20

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See thread for context:

"'Anglo-Saxon political traditions'" is not a racial reference.  It is a reference to the 18th century Whig idea that the major elements of the English & American tradition of liberty, common law, separation of powers, etc., can all be traced back to guys whose names started with "Æthel-" gathering under oak trees.

how is this absurd?   you think I should have mentioned Hengist and Horsa ?

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See thread for context:

"'Anglo-Saxon political traditions'" is not a racial reference.  It is a reference to the 18th century Whig idea that the major elements of the English & American tradition of liberty, common law, separation of powers, etc., can all be traced back to guys whose names started with "Æthel-" gathering under oak trees.

how is this absurd?   you think I should have mentioned Hengist and Horsa ?

Don't play dumb.  You know exactly what 'Anglo-Saxon' is in reference to given our country's fraught racial history.   

It's really okay if you have no idea what I'm talking about.  Learning new stuff is good!  Just ask and I'll help you out.

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There might be a scientific reason to not do certain things like this but from the Republicans it's coming from a place of biblical fantasy so clear, easy shoot down for that.

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There might be a scientific reason to not do certain things like this but from the Republicans it's coming from a place of biblical fantasy so clear, easy shoot down for that.

Lol, doing ANYTHING for a religious reason for the country as a whole is an absurd/ignorant thing to do.

Would you oppose MLK on civil rights because he based his ethic on religion and not just "scientific reason"?

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The fact you guys thought you could pass your entire agenda with only 50 votes is hilarious. A 222-213 house majority and 50-50 senate majority by definition means you have to water down much of your agenda to get it passed

It's pretty heartbreaking that even you are so far gone that you write off protecting the integrity of elections as merely "our agenda" rather than the last chance to save American democracy.

Like I said oppose it for these reasons :

- I oppose same day registration(Even Oregon doesn’t have this )

- I don’t think vote by mail should be expanded anymore than it already has as one of the biggest problem with vote by mail is it violates secret ballot principle

- I don’t think donations should be matched at a 6:1 ratio

-  candidates shouldn’t be required to release 10 years of tax returns . Mitt Romney only released  two and that is good enough

- I don’t trust independent commissions at all . Any commission should rather have equal amount of democrats and republicans only with no independents(other parties can get on the commission if they averaged 5% of the vote in presidential vote in the past decade ) . If they cannot come to an agreement then you would have an algorithm draw the lines




This bill isn’t anywhere near as good as you guys make it out to be

Girlfriend, just save us the time and say you don't want people that don't look like you to vote. We all know that's what you're trying to say. 

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$15 an hour is not even that much money, yet conservatives act as if it requires a Master's and a PHd.

Ummmm......maybe in your expensive urban area, but in at least 30% of all states, a full time worker making 15 dollars/hour is earning the MEDIAN income of that state.

There is a reason a $15 dollar minimum wage is a non starter in congress.

You do realize that inflation occurs at a constant, slow rate, which also compounds over time - right? The value of currency and volume of currency in circulation always changes.

At 2% real inflation per year, $10 becomes $10.20, then $10.40, then $10.61, then $10.82, then $11.04. $11.04 in Year Six dollars is the same as $10 in Year One dollars.

If you aren’t getting an annual raise that compensates for inflation of the currency, you are actually losing income every year. That’s not a moral indictment, that is just a fact. Facts don’t care about your feelings, snowflake.

just a bizarre post. nothing in it is factually wrong or even controversial, but Matty didn't mention inflation or anything that it could be considered a response to.  and to top it off, some gratuitous stock troll phrases.

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The implication is that same-sex marriage was universally unpopular before the court ruling, which is incorrect, quite a few states had already passed same-sex marriage via the democratic process prior to that or voted down bans on it (like the one I worked against!) and it was supported by almost every notable Democratic politician at that point. Also abortion is still a contentious and controversial issue almost 50 years after its relevant court ruling, so this isn't some sort of magic pill.

Above that though: if this is a reflection of the US being that much more conservative on such issues, then why isn't "Latinx" so widespread and universal in other Anglophone countries? You could point out they don't have as high Latino populations so it's less of a thing to come up, which is true, but it's blatantly incorrect and erasure of quite a few people to say they don't exist at all. The notion that a country like Australia wouldn't have as much if not significantly more backlash against "Latinx" if it was more of a thing there that described a much higher portion of their population is simply laughable.

Let me put it this way, on a French forum or discord server whose membership had broadly the same political outlook as this site's usership, gender neutral language would be, actually is, pretty much the normal way of writing. Whereas, on this forum, most of the time it feels like I am reading the most predictable outposts of the reactionary right wing French press. So for me that is actually very surprising, because France is for the most part a very reactionary, racist country; and yet this apparently left wing forum mostly takes a position that even by French standards would be considered right wing on this one particular issue.

As for gender equality - the US has a worse pay gap; doesn't even have maternity leave, let alone paternity leave; has never had a women head of state (and we all know how the last woman to stand for that position got treated); and has fewer women in its parliament than basically every western european country. These are all pretty concrete things that I think you have to accept suggest that the US is a broadly more conservative country when it comes to gender equality. (and you know, the fact that Switzerland, which was until recently incredibly bad on this issue is now ahead on every one of these measures is perhaps something that is worth paying attention to)

I wasn't aware the French even had gender neutral language.  What singular definite article do you use in that case?

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We're all for second chances. We just don't think people who are attracted to first graders deserve one.

You know, like normal people.

It's funny that we finally find a position where I'm more left than you.  I've always felt that the sex offender registry should be eliminated. Why are you still punished for your crime after leaving prison?  If you've completed your sentence, you've completed your sentence.  If the government doesn't feel you're ready to safely re-enter society, you shouldn't be in that society.  Let's get rid of this grey zone, especially when it's basically a scarlet letter for life that makes it difficult to find employment or build a social network, greatly increasing the chance that you rescind.

I feel this way about all crimes -- make criminal records private, give ex-felons full civil rights, get rid of the criminal history form on employment applications -- but the sex offender one is a particularly strange case because it only exists for one subset of crimes.  If you killed fifty people, you get out of prison and are considered rehabilitated, but if you raped a 17 year old decades ago, you still have to walk around the neighborhood and tell everyone the day you move in.

Anyway, this isn't the Individual Politics board.  I just think it's pretty desperate and disgusting to try and attack Shontel because she let this guy get involved in community event organizing 15 years after he completed his sentence.

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Why bold that part?   The entire post is making a argument supporting it.  Do you think the argument is absurd in some way, or only the conclusion which follows from it?