2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[It’s so Joever]

Crazy Forumlurker, Biden will win in a landslide.

[It’s so Joever]

Yeah it’s time to push left on fiscal issues and right on social issues.

[It’s so Joever]

Wow we may have lost Pennsylvania.
That means Michigan is also lost.

[It’s so Joever]

Livingston County (exurban Detroit) went from Trump +29 to Trump +18.

It's just hard to envision Trump winning Michigan unless Detroit punches below its weight.

Its now Trump +22

Is no one else noticing the fact that 95% is in Gennesee county and Trump is winning it!?

Lead poisoning is known to affect brain function.

[It’s so Joever]

Thank you, Southron Appalachian Whites! Very Cool!

Racial depolarization is real.

[It’s so Joever]

It’s coming.

https://twitter.com/MegJonesJS/status/1323917549000663041?s=20

It won’t be enough.

[It’s so Joever]

Guys it’s over, can we stop pretending America isn’t a s**thole?

[It’s so Joever]

Many of y'all appear to be forgetting the concept of the "Red Mirage".

PA, WI, and MI are the exact reverse of that, where once again DEM Cities in Swing States in the Midwest are the last to turn out the vote.

Keep Calm, don't panic, fundamental numbers look good in all three States (Plus we got AZ and NE-02 and possibly GA & NC as backups).

Work Swing Shift West Coast, so nowhere close to crash yet tonight.

Is NC not already gone?

Is it?

Says who?

Trump only up 77k by NYT numbers and plenty of votes outstanding (Most likely heavily DEM).

Not to nitpick my friend, but I'm highly curious. What's the latest word on what votes are out there in NC? Numbers? Sources? Presumably all mail in ballots

I mean, you can look yourself at the outstanding votes.
A large chunk of them are in Orange County.

[It’s so Joever]

As I warned, Michigan will vote red.

[It’s so Joever]

Just going to leave this here...
https://www.google.com/s/www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigans-nessel-and-benson-warn-of-robo-calls-telling-flint-residents-to-vote-wednesday.amp

[It’s so Joever]

I'm an oldie around here (56) but I took a nap for two hours and am back. This reminds me a lot of '76.

Well great....

[It’s so Joever]

Do you think maybe this broke along religious lines as well in terms of trends?
I noticed that the more secular parts of the country seemed to have the largest swings to Biden (with the exception of suburbia lol)

[It’s so Joever]

What's left to count in WI? is 22K lead enough?

It’s Eau Claire, Portage, and La Crosse.
Probably enough.

[It’s so Joever]

This election is over. The only question is 1932 or 1980 sized wave.

Just wanted to relive the hubris of this moment, lol

Say hello to 1976/2000!

Yup, perhaps 1976 redux. Current NPV is similar, 50.1% to 48%.

Just hope 2024 won't be GOP realignment then.

What is there left for them to realign on?

Biden proves increasingly unpopular over his term his office, and the results from last night prove that the GOP has a path forward with Latino (and to a lesser extent) Black voters

Just so you know, Cubans ≠ Latinos

Trump's swings in heavily Mexican-American regions of the Rio Grande Valley were even bigger than his gains among Cubans in Florida, mate.

What we're seeing is racial depolarization.  Democrats cannot simultaneously be the party of high-earning, White suburbanites and working class Latinos/Blacks.  Civil Rights-era racial attitudes are being phased out as Silents/Boomers age out of the electorate.     

Curious to see precinct results in places like Southeast LA County. I want to know if this applies to urban Latinos or is just a rural/Tejano thing.

Its racial depolarization but with caveats. There is still fluidity in the vote and CA urban centers didnt appear to move very much.

Los Angeles County appears to have swung toward Trump.

What?
Urban minorities swung right?
Which poster could have possibly predicted such a shift?

[It’s so Joever]

This election is over. The only question is 1932 or 1980 sized wave.

Just wanted to relive the hubris of this moment, lol

Say hello to 1976/2000!

Yup, perhaps 1976 redux. Current NPV is similar, 50.1% to 48%.

Just hope 2024 won't be GOP realignment then.

What is there left for them to realign on?

Biden proves increasingly unpopular over his term his office, and the results from last night prove that the GOP has a path forward with Latino (and to a lesser extent) Black voters

Just so you know, Cubans ≠ Latinos

Trump's swings in heavily Mexican-American regions of the Rio Grande Valley were even bigger than his gains among Cubans in Florida, mate.

What we're seeing is racial depolarization.  Democrats cannot simultaneously be the party of high-earning, White suburbanites and working class Latinos/Blacks.  Civil Rights-era racial attitudes are being phased out as Silents/Boomers age out of the electorate.     

Curious to see precinct results in places like Southeast LA County. I want to know if this applies to urban Latinos or is just a rural/Tejano thing.

Its racial depolarization but with caveats. There is still fluidity in the vote and CA urban centers didnt appear to move very much.

Los Angeles County appears to have swung toward Trump.

What?
Urban minorities swung right?
Which poster could have possibly predicted such a shift?

Okay, you expected a Trump win. If that somehow happens, you can have some accolades but right now you're just as off as the 413 map.

So...me saying Trump would win 275 electoral votes is somehow more off than the people saying he would only win 125?

I’m sorry....but that isn’t looking very likely.

[It’s so Joever]

This election is over. The only question is 1932 or 1980 sized wave.

Just wanted to relive the hubris of this moment, lol

Say hello to 1976/2000!

Yup, perhaps 1976 redux. Current NPV is similar, 50.1% to 48%.

Just hope 2024 won't be GOP realignment then.

What is there left for them to realign on?

Biden proves increasingly unpopular over his term his office, and the results from last night prove that the GOP has a path forward with Latino (and to a lesser extent) Black voters

Just so you know, Cubans ≠ Latinos

Trump's swings in heavily Mexican-American regions of the Rio Grande Valley were even bigger than his gains among Cubans in Florida, mate.

What we're seeing is racial depolarization.  Democrats cannot simultaneously be the party of high-earning, White suburbanites and working class Latinos/Blacks.  Civil Rights-era racial attitudes are being phased out as Silents/Boomers age out of the electorate.     

Curious to see precinct results in places like Southeast LA County. I want to know if this applies to urban Latinos or is just a rural/Tejano thing.

Its racial depolarization but with caveats. There is still fluidity in the vote and CA urban centers didnt appear to move very much.

Los Angeles County appears to have swung toward Trump.

What?
Urban minorities swung right?
Which poster could have possibly predicted such a shift?

Okay, you expected a Trump win. If that somehow happens, you can have some accolades but right now you're just as off as the 413 map.

Not only that, he very specifically said it would be through MI even though Biden flips WI and PA but nothing else. Looks like a 0% chance that happens.

It’s actually unbelievable how smug and audacious he’s continuing to be after proving to be so horribly wrong about something he was SO confident of for SO long. Guess the concept of “shame” is foreign to him.

A poster who is smug about something and now is refusing to accept they were wrong?

Where have I seen this story before?

[It’s so Joever]

Can Biden even still win PA at this point?  How possible really is that right now?

Yes, more than 1.2 million ballots are left.

Those skew 75-24 Biden.

Trump's lead is 480.000 right now, but Biden will net more than 600.000 out of the remaining ballots.

Biden will finish ca. 100.000 ahead of Trump.

Please god let it be!

This is crazy. How is Georgia & North Carolina looking?

Trump will win NC, Biden narrowly favoured in GA.

Fools gold.

Such a weird hill to die on.

He and GoTfan have been clamoring for a Trump win, doesn't mean they support him but I don't understand the psychology behind it.

I would (LITERALLY) have given my right nut for a Dem trifecta. So clamoring is a ridiculous thing to say.

I just refuse to try and talk myself into something that I don’t believe is going to happen especially when that just means the heartbreak will even worse than it would have been if I just accepted it.

As for Georgia specifically - I just don’t get what people are seeing. The numbers for Dems are not there. They just aren’t

Agree with you on everything except GA.
There still is a path for Dems in GA, even if narrow.

[It’s so Joever]

Current swing map:

SAFE D NEBRASKA INCOMING!

[It’s so Joever]

Here's a question- why are Cubans who came into this country ILLEGALLY on boats allowed to stay here and no one questions it? Why hasn't ICE been crawling the streets of Miami deporting all illegal Cubans?

Dems in 2020: Why isn't ICE getting rid of all the people who voted against my candidate?

Remind me how you're approach to border security and immigration is principled and not entirely self serving again?

Oh it’s self-serving.
Deal with it that’s politics.

[It’s so Joever]

Control of the senate will likely hinge on the runoff in Georgia glad its Warnock vs Loeffler Cunningham looks toast and its looking really hard for Gideon to pull off a win in Maine but theirs a lot of votes left to count their so lets see

Warnock will win imo no matter who wins the GE Pres.
It’s a bold claim, but I have been saying it for a while now.
Him going against Loeffler of all people will make it even better.

[It’s so Joever]

Couldn't be prouder of my state. We've rejected this disaster of a President and ironically will kick him out with a similar to margin to his in 2016.

With WI and MI going for Biden, it's lights out for Trump.

I am also proud of my state. Not because we were important, but because we kicked out Cory and swung HEAVILY against Trump.

[It’s so Joever]

There was nothing inappropriate about my post that was deleted in this thread.

If you think the next four years is going to be all rainbows and kittens and kumbayas, you are incredibly naive.

You just watch. These armed confrontations between BLM and the redhats are just the beginning, and all I can say about that is I thank the Lord I don't live in D.C. or any other major city. Because it's going to become very ugly, and very bloody.

Absolutely.
I do think some of the tensions will ease when Covid-19 improves and the economy gets better, but the American people are about as divided as 1968, if not even more.

[It’s so Joever]

Gut feeling;
MI: Biden maintains his lead and Peters narrowly pulls ahead, could be tight though.
PA: Biden pulls ahead
GA: Trump narrowly hangs onto it but it’s within recount territory
AZ: Trump makes it barely
NV: Biden actually improves
NC: Recount, this will take the longest to call.

[It’s so Joever]

I actually think this wasn’t a bad night for Democrats to be honest. Maybe I will kick myself in the a** for saying that, but this is about what we expected.

And by the way, those of you who suddenly went from radical optimists to doomers amuse me.

No, Democrats aren’t in a great position, but I think they are favored in GA-Special and have a shot at Perdue’s seat.

Also, those of you who think the GOP won’t have Trump’s baggage...you obviously haven’t been paying attention to the man. He LOVES attention and will do/say anything for views. He will continue to act like an a** and may even smear the GOP establishment (because he feels like they “betrayed” him for not handing him the win)

Also, Biden will likely oversee the recovery from Covid and the economic slump.
I do think Dems face an uphill battle in 2022, but it’s not a complete wash.
Even if Biden doesn’t get anything done himself, he will still oversee a recovery from 2020 and will be falsely given credit for it (reminds me of Trump)

[It’s so Joever]

I actually think this wasn’t a bad night for Democrats to be honest. Maybe I will kick myself in the a** for saying that, but this is about what we expected.

And by the way, those of you who suddenly went from radical optimists to doomers amuse me.

No, Democrats aren’t in a great position, but I think they are favored in GA-Special and have a shot at Perdue’s seat.

Also, those of you who think the GOP won’t have Trump’s baggage...you obviously haven’t been paying attention to the man. He LOVES attention and will do/say anything for views. He will continue to act like an a** and may even smear the GOP establishment (because he feels like they “betrayed” him for not handing him the win)

Also, Biden will likely oversee the recovery from Covid and the economic slump.
I do think Dems face an uphill battle in 2022, but it’s not a complete wash.
Even if Biden doesn’t get anything done himself, he will still oversee a recovery from 2020 and will be falsely given credit for it (reminds me of Trump)

Weird, as you were mocking me for holding firm and NOT becoming a doomer.

No, I was mocking you for not eating your goddamned crow.
You still seem to live in this fantasy where you were right and Biden won in a landslide judging by your posts.
Also, your relentless attacks on anyone who even slightly disagreed with your views over the past few months just makes it even more tempting for me to poke fun.

Yeah I was wrong on several things, including Michigan and Arizona (most likely) but at least I can own up to my mistakes. So do other posters, and it happens, no one is mad at you for being wrong.

But you just try to deflect and make it seem like your abrasive attitude was in any way justified, which it simply was not.