CPAC speaker calls for genocide of trans people

[T'Chenka]

2. They barely get any discussion here but every trans thread gets 5+ pages . It’s insanely ridiculous

I thought conservatives strongly support free markets with minimal regulation. As long as a thread isn't breaking the ToS and isn't in the wrong subforum, I don't see why the users on this website can't just talk about the subjects that seem important to them or interesting to them. Some threads will get more replies than others based on a number of factors.

You're going against the free market principle and trying to regulate the forum to make sure that people don't have to see threads about Republican attacks on transgender people, and it can all be nicely tucked away in a corner, out of sight, out of mind. That isn't the right of Republican posters here, to be able to support politicians who advance the culture wars but then not have to pay attention when the rest of the country finds it notable and wants to discuss it.

[T'Chenka]

Well recently they have been holding it in Orlando. Which despite being in a blue county, is an intensely fascist city.

Random side-note: Orlando has more strip clubs per capita than anywhere else in the USA. Don't quote me on that, I haven't looked it up, but I heard somebody I consider reputable say it. The Libertarian Party often holds their convention there, or at least, used to. Coincidence? Who knows.

[T'Chenka]

The mods infract posts that are in the mainstream of public debate. They should stop doing that then and stop taking the left wing side of this debate

No, the mods should simply enforce the rules of the forum. If the forum says "we don't want bigotry", then the mods should infract bigotry. It's literally that simple.

The argument you're making is "it LITERALLY doesn't matter how f__ked up a policy position is... the mods need to allow it if the position is semi-popular amoung American voters". That isn't how forums work. The owners set standards and the mods enforce the standards. If the USA moved right of Atlas over time, then Atlas isn't obligated to moderate right to appease the far right.

[T'Chenka]

The trans agenda... reminds me of the left-handed agenda

I personally don't recall having to come out as left-handed, get 'hand transition surgery' and get mad when others assume I'm right handed.

Somebody just told you four posts above yours that transgender people don't "have to get" gender reassignment surgery. Are you just being obtuse, or are you going to die on the hill of "trans people need to get surgery, it's part of being trans"?

[T'Chenka]

Dear god you’re so lost. All I know left is to pray for you.

And I will pray for you if you actually believe the irrational, nonsense meme that is "trans genocide". Believing such extreme, baseless conspiracies must be rough on your mental health. I hope you can get help and find peace.

Conspiracies like the woke medical mafia doing Tuskegee-esque medical experiments to sterilize children?

[T'Chenka]

https://twitter.com/PabloReports/status/1632872800854716416

Absolutely disgusting. Wow. Holy s__t.

[T'Chenka]

The only people ever saying anything about genocide are those who have been falsely claiming people they don't like are calling for it, with no evidence to support it.

I remember a right wing user that I won't name being heavily infracted for calling puberty blockers (and genital surgery on 17 and a half year olds) a mass sterilization and/or genocide comparable to the Tuskegee Study Of Untreated Syphilis In The Negro Male.

You must have conveniently forgotten about that one.

[T'Chenka]

The only people ever saying anything about genocide are those who have been falsely claiming people they don't like are calling for it, with no evidence to support it.

I remember a right wing user that I won't name being heavily infracted for calling puberty blockers (and genital surgery on 17 and a half year olds) a mass sterilization and/or genocide comparable to the Tuskegee Study Of Untreated Syphilis In The Negro Male.

You must have conveniently forgotten about that one.

Sounds like I was expressing concern for Trans and gender nonconforming kids rather than calling for their eradication. If I wanted to eradicate them wouldnt I have viewed their mass sterilization favorably rather than with alarm?

Showing concern for kids under the assumption that they're potentially "normal" kids, if they can successfully be "saved". It isn't necessarily the same thing as concern for transgender kids.

[T'Chenka]

It’s not like this isn’t an easy thing to condemn.

And yet here we are, nine pages in. I can count the number of condemnations from right wingers on one hand, so far.

[T'Chenka]

Because treating people decently is not "debating the issues", and wanting to argue about whether or not people should be treated decently is not engaging a policy debate, it's screaming "I'm an abusive bigot, I really mean it!!!" at the top of your lungs and then getting upset that people think you might not be a very nice person.

To me, the general tenor of Republican whines (as Trump promised everyone, the whining never stops) about "why aren't we allowed to debate this" comes across as a repellent and frightening echo of the the 1930s, like members of a certain German party getting upset that people think ill of them when they just want to "debate the Jewish Question".

In the end, it seems quite simple to me. The end goal of Republicans is to be terrible people. No amount of "but we're being reasonable right now, right here" should be allowed to distract from that.

I am on the lib side on this trans topic, but this is poor reasoning that allows everything to be cast as a moral test in public discourse. Foreign aid. Immigration. Gun rights. Everything outside of tax policy shouldn’t be considered off the table of discussion.

Foreign aid, immigration and gun rights are 100% moral issues in the context of "some arguments for WHY policies are good or bad are immoral, and some arguments for why policies are good or bad are not immoral". So basically, a lot of policies are not necessarily immoral in and of themselves, but you can support those policies for immoral reasons. There are positions on those issues that I personally believe have very few moral justifications, so unless you provide me with a good reason for why you support that policy that makes sense morally, I will view your position as immoral.

[T'Chenka]

Relevant breakdown of why conservatives in this thread are wrong :
From 4:41 in the video until 6:15