Mideast Assembly Thread

[HappyWarrior]

Hey guys, decided to move here.

Pacific region is mostly none moving and the Mideast here seems pretty fast and up to date.

Welcome to the region!

[HappyWarrior]

Thank you Badger.  Exactly the sort of bill I was hoping for.

[HappyWarrior]

I object to the vote currently taking place.

On what grounds?

Constitutional grounds. The governor is allowed a week to sign or veto, and the bill has already passed on September the eighth.

Well they are having a vote on the dog breed bill I believe and I don't see why the Governor can not have more than one bill to sign at a time.

[HappyWarrior]

So is Peter not runnng for reelection as a WI like he normally does? lol

[HappyWarrior]

I wonder who will be elected as the new speaker.   To follow in the proud footsteps of myself, Franzl, PS, and Peter.

[HappyWarrior]

I wonder who will be elected as the new speaker.   To follow in the proud footsteps of myself, Franzl, PS, and Peter.

and Inks he was speaker for a whike as well.

Judging by those names, whoever is selected will most likely have a very successful political carer to look forward to.

I don't think Inks ever was.  In fact I don't think he was ever an Assemblyman.

[HappyWarrior]

I wonder who will be elected as the new speaker.   To follow in the proud footsteps of myself, Franzl, PS, and Peter.

and Inks he was speaker for a whike as well.

Judging by those names, whoever is selected will most likely have a very successful political carer to look forward to.

I don't think Inks ever was.  In fact I don't think he was ever an Assemblyman.

I wasn't here back then so I can't say for sure, but according to the wiki he was a member during the 3rd Assembly, and for a short while after Franzl's promotion, Speaker as well.

Ahh I forgot about that, That was immediatly following my rise to the Senate and I was quite busy at that point.

[HappyWarrior]

I'm 100% behind a bill honouring Peter.

Maybe we could be inspired by the Midwest and rename the region's capital to Peter's Park instead of College Park.

Also Badger, a pony? In the middle of a huge economic recession? May I suggest we consider the less expensive possibility of a mule

 

A MULE?!? Zounds, Sir! Would you denigrate this fine man's accomplishments with non-breeding stock? And less adorable stock at that! (Besides, consider it a tiny stimulus to the region's horse ranching industry) ;-)

How about a zorse?  Very unique idea...

[HappyWarrior]

I think we should also commission a statue or name the regional capital after our distinguished former Speaker.

[HappyWarrior]

I personally think that either the third assemblyman must make a choice or the bill simply fail on that basis.  This solution I think would give too much power to the Governor.  We must preserve seperation of powers.

[HappyWarrior]

I personally think that either the third assemblyman must make a choice or the bill simply fail on that basis.  This solution I think would give too much power to the Governor.  We must preserve seperation of powers.

I agree.  Although separation of powers really isn't at stake here.  Either the governor votes in favor of it, and signs it and it passes, or he doesn't vote for it, and it doesn't pass, and obviously it wouldn't have passed a veto override anyway.

Yep that was my thinking as well. It's really up to the Governor at that point anyway as he'll end up making a decission to weather he shall sign it or not, so he might as well be able to break the tie when he's at it anyway.

Although I see your concern HW. My plan B would be to have the people vote by referendum when the Assembly ends up in a tie. Although I think that would be to do a simple thing overly complicated.

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to force someone to make up their mind, and have them vote either Aye or Nay. And to make it so that a proposal fails automaticly if there's a tie, will make an Abstain vote a Nay in everything but the name. 

I like the referendum idea.

[HappyWarrior]

To go back on the tie breaker / referendum idea...I think it'd be acceptable if you give the Governor the option to veto the bill.

By "option to veto the bill" do you mean the power to prevent the bill from being submitted for referendum after a tied assembly vote?

No - I mean some way so that if the bill goes from tie vote to referendum, it still has to then go to the Governor's desk where he can either sign it or veto it.  Otherwise, it leaves the Governor completely out of hte process.

I am reluctant to give the Governor the power to reject the voice of the people.

I am in total agreement with Purple State on this issue.

[HappyWarrior]

I would advise againest expanding the Assembly.  Having 3 members I think is perfectly appropriate.  I think having 5 would make it so that there would be virtually no competition for seats.

[HappyWarrior]

I once again must object to any effort at expanding our assembly for the same reason as before.

[HappyWarrior]

I know almost all of you guys were'nt around then but when it existed the Lt. Governor position was worthless and having four assemblyman is just useless in my opinion.  I totally support the current status quo, there does'nt really seem to be a problem and I think adding more positions will just increase the number of uncompetative races in the region.

[HappyWarrior]

If that one amendment is meant to remove the death penalty, thats already been done lol.

[HappyWarrior]

If that one amendment is meant to remove the death penalty, thats already been done lol.

I know my English is bad, but I repeat that I just want MORE protection for human life. I know there is no death penalty in the Mideast.
But I want to give human life a clear constitutional protection. And I've said that, written so, it will also prevent voluntary euthanasia.
Please read what I've written one or two pages before, throughout our debates in the Assembly.

I was just asking, I did'nt understand what you meant.

[HappyWarrior]

I as a Mideast citizen hope that this bill will be passed in swift order.

[HappyWarrior]

I believe that having a ME judge is completely necessary and we do have plenty of citizens who would be well qualified I think.

[HappyWarrior]

I propose the following bill to the Assembly:

Stricter Dog Fighting Policy Bill

Section I: It shall be illegal for any person to attend dog fighting events anywhere the Mideast Region. Anyone who’s caught attending a dog fight will be sentenced to a maximum fine of 600 dollars.
Section II: All fines collected from people breaking this law will be used to sponsor the construction and operation of special dog centres, designed to house and rehabilitate confiscated fight dogs, in co-operation with several animal right’s organisations.

I support this.

As someone who assisted SC on the development of this bill, I feel that I should sort of explain it.  The thing is that the reason that dog fighting rings often are not broken up is because there is no place to put the dogs while they are being resocialized.  In order to fight this problem we need to, along with private organizations like the ASPCA, construct places in order to allow for this.

[HappyWarrior]

Stricter Dog Fighting Policy Bill

Section I: It shall be illegal for any person to attend dog fighting events anywhere the Mideast Region. Anyone who’s caught attending a dog fight will be sentenced to a maximum fine of 600 dollars.
Section II: All fines collected from people breaking this law will be used to sponsor the construction and operation of special dog centres, designed to house and rehabilitate confiscated fight dogs, in co-operation with several animal right’s organisations.

Since there has been no further debate on this bill for over 24 hours, I call for a vote.

AYE.

AYE.

The victims and myself thank the Mideast Assembly for passing this excellent piece of legislation

[HappyWarrior]

Aye

I'd just like to say that the Pacific is glad to know we have a friend in the Mideast Region.

Lots of them, actually.

Liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism and other ideologies aside: All Atlasians unite when one group attempts secession and civil war.

Actually, I think the SE is just still pissed they lost the last Civil War.

Virginia?

Atlasia has had like 3 more quasi civil wars with the SE being a large point in them

[HappyWarrior]

I question the need for an office that exists for no other purpose than to step up when and if a vacancy, either permanent or short term, occurs.

If someone could refresh my memory, though, what is the current regional law regarding the line of succession for governor? I assume there is one, and if so it involves the Speaker of the Assembly somehow.

Governor---->Speaker------>Justice---->Rest of Assembly by seniority

[HappyWarrior]

I'm looking forward to it Inks.

[HappyWarrior]

I'd support making it a possible elective I think.