Sarah Palin's daughter IS pregnant, actually

[JSojourner]

It is nobody's business.  If Palin were knocked up with some other guy's kid, it wouldn't be our business...until she started preaching family values and condeming John Edwards, etc.

But this is her child.  It's off limits.  End of discussion.

[JSojourner]

I still want to know if anyone feels that this ought to be relevant in the campaign.

the 'open minded' liberals will think this a huge issue.

they will be riding their moral high horse.

those disgusting people are more self righteous than any religious person ive ever met.

And remember these make up most Obama supporters and you'll be lumping yourself with them unless you vote for McCain.

the disgusting way the obama campaign and supporters have treated palin and her child is pushing me to vote mccain.

why does obama hate women so much?  hell women raised him...after his daddy fled to impregnate more women on different continents.

Gonna respond to Chris's post in a bit.  But Walter, I just spent half an hour watching Bill Bennett on CNN praising Barack Obama for his strong, "family are off limits" statement.  Obama has done nothing wrong on this issue.  That some -- very, very few actually -- of his backers have mentioned it is unfortunate.  But he can't control everything that every Obama backer or surrogate says.'

In fact, he said today that if anyone on his staff brings up the teenage girl, they will be fired.  I take him at his word.

[JSojourner]

I still want to know if anyone feels that this ought to be relevant in the campaign.

the 'open minded' liberals will think this a huge issue.

they will be riding their moral high horse.

those disgusting people are more self righteous than any religious person ive ever met.

And remember these make up most Obama supporters and you'll be lumping yourself with them unless you vote for McCain.

the disgusting way the obama campaign and supporters have treated palin and her child is pushing me to vote mccain.

why does obama hate women so much?  hell women raised him...after his daddy fled to impregnate more women on different continents.

I think this is the point.

Complete Spin:

Look at dear sweet Sarah Palin.  She a mother that loves her daughter and supports her daughter.  She takes care of her disabled child.  Her values are good and pure.  

Look at those nasty, evil Democrats attacking her.  They hate women.  Look what they did, stealing the election from that nice Hillary Clinton.  The don't want women to come up in the world.  They hate motherhood, women, and nice people.

We don't need mean people like Obama and Biden running the country.  We need nice people like that kind Sarah Palin and someone grandfatherly, like that heroic John McCain.

Now, I'll turn off the spin.

I would not be surprised to find out in six months that a Republican operative set up the Daily Kos story, just to get the issue out and frame it.  Yes, I am that cynical and Machiavellian.  

Actually JJ, that the Kos story was a Rove plant has already been posited on a couple of blogs, left and right.  And I agree.

Fortunately, Obama is not taking the bait.

[JSojourner]

It is nobody's business.  If Palin were knocked up with some other guy's kid, it wouldn't be our business...until she started preaching family values and condeming John Edwards, etc.

But this is her child.  It's off limits.  End of discussion.

BS, JSojourner!

BS!

I love you man, but you're getting awful unreasonable.

The conservative creed is that you should not have a baby until you get married.

The conservative creed is that conservative mothers should teach abstinence!

This is a big hit to the McCain campaign. Period.

Hi Chris!

I just wanted to be sure to respond to you because I always value your input.  I can't believe what I am saying, but I am taking a cue from Bill Bennett here.  Tonight on CNN he said, "if liberals want to make Palin's support for abstinence only education an issue, they should.  It's fair game.  What they shouldn't do is use a teenage girl to make their point".

I couldn't possibly agree more.  And I think even Republicans will agree that Senator Obama has really taken the high road here in saying family -- children, especially -- are off limits.  

Let's frame it another way.  If curbing alcohol consumtion were a big Bush issue, we could argue the issue with him...without having to use his daughters as a club.

I do draw a somewhat more thorny line where sexual dalliances and affairs of adults are concerned.  Those are also none of our business.  UNLESS the person having the affair lied about it under oath (Clinton) or positioned themself as an abiter of morality and family values (Gingrich, Livingston, Foley, Craig, Vitter, Chenoweth, Bunn...etc etc etc.)

But this is a child we are talking about.

Oh -- And I completely agree that the Palin family deserves major kudos for supporting the girl and helping her choose to bring it to term.  I only wish other young women in crisis pregnancies had such wonderful support.

[JSojourner]

Actually JJ, that the Kos story was a Rove plant has already been posited on a couple of blogs, left and right.  And I agree.

Fortunately, Obama is not taking the bait.

The Kos "story" had been kicking around up in Alaska since around the time Governor Palin announced she was pregnant.  Karl Rove (or whomever) would have had to have known then that Senator McCain would pick Sarah Palin as his veep.  Not likely.

By the way, the all-powerful Karl Rove is not the dark overlord behind the McCain campaign.  Steve Schmidt is.  Credit (or blame) should be given where it's due.

Isn't Schmidt a Rove soldier? 

[JSojourner]

I'm not combing through this seventeen page thread to find every insult and every bit of amusement at this news. You and several others have responded in a responsible, mature manner. I can't say that for many others.

Ok... thank you for your response. Based on comments about "most Obama supporters," and some comments made elsewhere, I felt that some people were casting too wide a net in criticizing how this has been discussed.

I'm getting a little defensive about that, myself.  Also about the "Obama cultists" and "Obama worshipers".  I would prefer not to be lumped in with that crowd (not saying Phil has done that, of course) just because I support Obama for President.

[JSojourner]

Isn't Schmidt a Rove soldier? 

I don't know what that means.  I suppose if everyone who's ever worked with Karl Rove is considered a Rove soldier, sure.

Don't worry though - Even if Steve Schmidt is the dark overlord behind the McCain campaign, I still hear that Karl Rove controls the weather!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!