Actress Cynthia Nixon of Sex and the City to run for NY Governor

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Miner's incompetence during all this doesn't exactly give me confidence that she could've defeated Katko.

This kinda reminds me of NE-02, when there were 17 threads on how the Dems had messed up, when, looking back, Ashford was a bad candidate who lost in 2016, when the district went +2Trump.

Balter is fine, its just that Kalto, is, well, Kalto.

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Miner's incompetence during all this doesn't exactly give me confidence that she could've defeated Katko.

This kinda reminds me of NE-02, when there were 17 threads on how the Dems had messed up, when, looking back, Ashford was a bad candidate who lost in 2016, when the district went +2Trump.

Balter is fine, its just that Kalto, is, well, Kalto.

There were polls showing Ashford leading by large margins in a 2018 rematch.

There was one poll, released by the NRCC. Not the best info. Its not even published on wikipedia, or ballotpedia, I had to go find it in the thread.
It also is likely due more to name rec, rather than actual problems with Eastman. Ashford was down in the poll by 2, Eastman by 8, not that big of a difference, especially since that was back around April/May.

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With the recent news about him basically taking a bribe from Wienstien, and this debate, its possible that the race could become close, or that Nixon could win in an upset.

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With the recent news about him basically taking a bribe from Wienstien, and this debate, its possible that the race could become close, or that Nixon could win in an upset.

though, I don't think many people actually watch Gov primary debates

news headlines, however, are made from these debates, and, if you recall, the debates were used against Graham a lot.

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Cuomo is now railing against the teacher strikes.

Whaaaaa......? Why? Thats a losing issue.

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Is it possible Nixon pulls off a Gillum?

Probably not.

I mean he has had a pretty stable lead in the polls north of 50 percent.

But, we'll see I guess if this tightens up?

well, that poll was taken a long time ago, in political sense, and his base is even more tenuous than a moderate Rs. With the news about his bribe and his terrible debate performances, its possible to see an upset.

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What in the name of god happened to Cuomo, jesus

hes just showing his true colours

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Made my mind up for Nixon tonight. I knew Cuomo is bad but JFC that was a sh"*tshow by him.

Nixon/Williams/Teachout '18

Get your friends, we have to get rid of him!

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Its not a good indicator, but twitter is going crazy over the debate, and it seems that most are in support of Nixon.

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Cuomo looked like a fool tonight, it's pretty clear why he didn't want to have this debate in the first place. The "you are a corporation" back-and-forth was one of the most humiliating parts of this campaign. If anything, tonight showed that he's out-of-touch and losing ground.

Nixon might not be able to pull off an upset in September, but tonight certainly helped her chances.

Yeah, especially since it turns out he took a bribe to end the Weinstein investigation, tonight will really damage him.

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Did she manage with the sexist 66 degree temperatures? Hahahaha

Literally nobody is focused on that comment.

yeah right, I was just talking with some NY voters, and they told me "yeah, I was leaning towards Nixon after hearing that he took bribes to end the investigation and how he just flopped in the debate, but that temperature comment. Never Nixon, Im voting for Cuomo."

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I just watched the debate. Cuomo did terrible, I'm actually surprised. Nixon wasn't nearly as good as some people here are claiming, however. Cuomo did have a point about her interrupting. She would also do this thing where instead of answering the question, she would attack Cuomo? Not that I'm opposed to attacking Cuomo, but I'm not sure how well that would play since most Democrats do like Cuomo.

Though half of the debate was about subjects that have nothing to do with upstate, so I was pretty unimpressed in general. If there was any moment that I think would cause any movement, it would be when Nixon claimed Cuomo received money from the Koch brothers. From a few comments I've seen, that might have changed a few minds.

I really want Cuomo to lose, but this debate will do nothing. I guess our best hope is that the Weinstein story gets coverage.

She came of as rude and totally ignorant of fact and how government works. I thought he wiped the floor with her but I have little faith in the voting public or polls anymore. Nixon told people what they wanted to hear.

"Wiped the floor" by falsely (and hilariously) calling her a corporate Democrat, among other idiotic false statements.

She knows absolutely nothing about how government works and is totally unqualified and was incredibly rude. The debate only solidified my vote for Cuomo

yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about. Neither of them talked about government really, and it was mostly about issues. And Cuomo spent most of the debate attacking Nixon, and calling her a "corperate" democrat, a Socialist, basically anything. And if you are willing to vote for a man who received a bribe to end the Weinstein investigation, then I have nothing to say.

[Zaybay]

Cuomo blew it but nobody watches these debates and NY's terrible voting laws ensures only the right people vote anyway so Cuomo wins

I dunno. The system only works when there is low turnout, and even then, it didnt work in the house races. If the Weinstein controversy sticks, and Nixon ramps it up, then I say its a tossup.

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I just watched the debate. Cuomo did terrible, I'm actually surprised. Nixon wasn't nearly as good as some people here are claiming, however. Cuomo did have a point about her interrupting. She would also do this thing where instead of answering the question, she would attack Cuomo? Not that I'm opposed to attacking Cuomo, but I'm not sure how well that would play since most Democrats do like Cuomo.

Though half of the debate was about subjects that have nothing to do with upstate, so I was pretty unimpressed in general. If there was any moment that I think would cause any movement, it would be when Nixon claimed Cuomo received money from the Koch brothers. From a few comments I've seen, that might have changed a few minds.

I really want Cuomo to lose, but this debate will do nothing. I guess our best hope is that the Weinstein story gets coverage.

She came of as rude and totally ignorant of fact and how government works. I thought he wiped the floor with her but I have little faith in the voting public or polls anymore. Nixon told people what they wanted to hear.

"Wiped the floor" by falsely (and hilariously) calling her a corporate Democrat, among other idiotic false statements.

She knows absolutely nothing about how government works and is totally unqualified and was incredibly rude. The debate only solidified my vote for Cuomo

yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about. Neither of them talked about government really, and it was mostly about issues. And Cuomo spent most of the debate attacking Nixon, and calling her a "corperate" democrat, a Socialist, basically anything. And if you are willing to vote for a man who received a bribe to end the Weinstein investigation, then I have nothing to say.

That story has no proof. The source it came from is highly questionable but people dont check source anymore.

NY campaign finance records seem to be a good enough source.

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I just watched the debate. Cuomo did terrible, I'm actually surprised. Nixon wasn't nearly as good as some people here are claiming, however. Cuomo did have a point about her interrupting. She would also do this thing where instead of answering the question, she would attack Cuomo? Not that I'm opposed to attacking Cuomo, but I'm not sure how well that would play since most Democrats do like Cuomo.

Though half of the debate was about subjects that have nothing to do with upstate, so I was pretty unimpressed in general. If there was any moment that I think would cause any movement, it would be when Nixon claimed Cuomo received money from the Koch brothers. From a few comments I've seen, that might have changed a few minds.

I really want Cuomo to lose, but this debate will do nothing. I guess our best hope is that the Weinstein story gets coverage.

She came of as rude and totally ignorant of fact and how government works. I thought he wiped the floor with her but I have little faith in the voting public or polls anymore. Nixon told people what they wanted to hear.

"Wiped the floor" by falsely (and hilariously) calling her a corporate Democrat, among other idiotic false statements.

She knows absolutely nothing about how government works and is totally unqualified and was incredibly rude. The debate only solidified my vote for Cuomo

yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about. Neither of them talked about government really, and it was mostly about issues. And Cuomo spent most of the debate attacking Nixon, and calling her a "corperate" democrat, a Socialist, basically anything. And if you are willing to vote for a man who received a bribe to end the Weinstein investigation, then I have nothing to say.

That story has no proof. The source it came from is highly questionable but people dont check source anymore.

NY campaign finance records seem to be a good enough source.

The probe was ended as to not interfere with the trial of Weinstein but no one is going to talk about that part.

You dont think there is anything suspicious with the fact that less than a week after receiving a donation, he ends the probe?

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Cuomo blew it but nobody watches these debates and NY's terrible voting laws ensures only the right people vote anyway so Cuomo wins

I dunno. The system only works when there is low turnout, and even then, it didnt work in the house races. If the Weinstein controversy sticks, and Nixon ramps it up, then I say its a tossup.

NY is a weird state. It essentially has Jim Crow voting laws that ensure the establishment can never be meaningfully challenged. Until the IDC garbage is crushed and the State Senate flips....nothing will change and connoisseurs of fraud like Cuomo will just keep winning.

True, but it does seem like things are changing. The IDC is afraid, many of them look likely to lose their primaries, and Teachout seems to be the favorite for the AG position now.

[Zaybay]

Cuomo blew it but nobody watches these debates and NY's terrible voting laws ensures only the right people vote anyway so Cuomo wins

I dunno. The system only works when there is low turnout, and even then, it didnt work in the house races. If the Weinstein controversy sticks, and Nixon ramps it up, then I say its a tossup.

NY is a weird state. It essentially has Jim Crow voting laws that ensure the establishment can never be meaningfully challenged. Until the IDC garbage is crushed and the State Senate flips....nothing will change and connoisseurs of fraud like Cuomo will just keep winning.

True, but it does seem like things are changing. The IDC is afraid, many of them look likely to lose their primaries, and Teachout seems to be the favorite for the AG position now.

The IDC will be crushed and the State Senate will flip in November but it'll be too late by then. Crooked Cuomo will be the nominee and i wouldn't be surprised if he starts vetoing progressive legislation regarding voting rights, marijuana, etc...

we will have to see how things stack up.

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Forgive me if this has already been said but what is the likelihood of the IDC incumbents being defeated?

It's basically guaranteed that some, but not all, will be defeated. Alcantara and Perlata, and possibly Avella, are generally seen as underdogs, while Hamilton and Klein are in the fights of their lives. Carlucci and Valesky are favored, while Savino is virtually safe.

If the IDC is reduced to 1 member, then it will be a glorious day. Nixon winning her primary would be even better, especially considering how much of a slime bag Cuomo is.

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Forgive me if this has already been said but what is the likelihood of the IDC incumbents being defeated?

It's basically guaranteed that some, but not all, will be defeated. Alcantara and Perlata, and possibly Avella, are generally seen as underdogs, while Hamilton and Klein are in the fights of their lives. Carlucci and Valesky are favored, while Savino is virtually safe.

If the IDC is reduced to 1 member, then it will be a glorious day. Nixon winning her primary would be even better, especially considering how much of a slime bag Cuomo is.

Id rather not have a someone as Governor who knows absolutely nothing about politics or what the job entails and is rude and arrogant to boot.

seriously, there was like, 1 question about governance. The rest were about issues, and Cuomo skipped most of those. And Im pretty sure the guy who keeps insulting her, "Corperate""Socialist", and is against the teachers is not someone I want in the governors seat. Even Baker sides with the teachers.

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Forgive me if this has already been said but what is the likelihood of the IDC incumbents being defeated?

It's basically guaranteed that some, but not all, will be defeated. Alcantara and Perlata, and possibly Avella, are generally seen as underdogs, while Hamilton and Klein are in the fights of their lives. Carlucci and Valesky are favored, while Savino is virtually safe.

If the IDC is reduced to 1 member, then it will be a glorious day. Nixon winning her primary would be even better, especially considering how much of a slime bag Cuomo is.

Id rather not have a someone as Governor who knows absolutely nothing about politics or what the job entails and is rude and arrogant to boot.

seriously, there was like, 1 question about governance. The rest were about issues, and Cuomo skipped most of those. And Im pretty sure the guy who keeps insulting her, "Corperate""Socialist", and is against the teachers is not someone I want in the governors seat. Even Baker sides with the teachers.

He is not against teachers and I dont want someone who is rude and pompous and has no idea how anything works in the governors seat.

Yes he is, he said that he didnt support the teacher's strikes, something that even Baker has supported. And I dont know where you keep getting that she was rude and pompous.

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Forgive me if this has already been said but what is the likelihood of the IDC incumbents being defeated?

It's basically guaranteed that some, but not all, will be defeated. Alcantara and Perlata, and possibly Avella, are generally seen as underdogs, while Hamilton and Klein are in the fights of their lives. Carlucci and Valesky are favored, while Savino is virtually safe.

If the IDC is reduced to 1 member, then it will be a glorious day. Nixon winning her primary would be even better, especially considering how much of a slime bag Cuomo is.

Id rather not have a someone as Governor who knows absolutely nothing about politics or what the job entails and is rude and arrogant to boot.

seriously, there was like, 1 question about governance. The rest were about issues, and Cuomo skipped most of those. And Im pretty sure the guy who keeps insulting her, "Corperate""Socialist", and is against the teachers is not someone I want in the governors seat. Even Baker sides with the teachers.

He is not against teachers and I dont want someone who is rude and pompous and has no idea how anything works in the governors seat.

Yes he is, he said that he didnt support the teacher's strikes, something that even Baker has supported. And I dont know where you keep getting that she was rude and pompous.

Well, she interrupted him all the time and often made false claims about him. Cuomo remained cool and countered skillfully with his knowledge. All she made were talking points and failed to explain how she would implement anything. She's certainly not up to the job of running a 20 million people state with a 180 billion dollar budget.

Cuomo did the same thing to her, and she was right, he was lying, according to outside eyes. And from what the audience on twitter, youtube and in the actual debate, it seems that Nixon was controlling the flow. Kinda reminded me of Sanders Vs Clinton, or Trump Vs Clinton.

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The average viewer watched both candidates interrupt each other, accuse each other of being the same things, and claim they were supporting the same communities better than each other. Cuomo supporters assumed Cuomo was right about Nixon and Nixon supporters assumed Nixon was right about Cuomo. The undecided voter learned very little except that both candidates hate each other's guts and Cuomo doesn't have a way with words.

This is probably the best take

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Forgive me if this has already been said but what is the likelihood of the IDC incumbents being defeated?

It's basically guaranteed that some, but not all, will be defeated. Alcantara and Perlata, and possibly Avella, are generally seen as underdogs, while Hamilton and Klein are in the fights of their lives. Carlucci and Valesky are favored, while Savino is virtually safe.

If the IDC is reduced to 1 member, then it will be a glorious day. Nixon winning her primary would be even better, especially considering how much of a slime bag Cuomo is.

Id rather not have a someone as Governor who knows absolutely nothing about politics or what the job entails and is rude and arrogant to boot.

seriously, there was like, 1 question about governance. The rest were about issues, and Cuomo skipped most of those. And Im pretty sure the guy who keeps insulting her, "Corperate""Socialist", and is against the teachers is not someone I want in the governors seat. Even Baker sides with the teachers.

He is not against teachers and I dont want someone who is rude and pompous and has no idea how anything works in the governors seat.

Yes he is, he said that he didnt support the teacher's strikes, something that even Baker has supported. And I dont know where you keep getting that she was rude and pompous.

Well, she interrupted him all the time and often made false claims about him. Cuomo remained cool and countered skillfully with his knowledge. All she made were talking points and failed to explain how she would implement anything. She's certainly not up to the job of running a 20 million people state with a 180 billion dollar budget.

Cuomo did the same thing to her, and she was right, he was lying, according to outside eyes. And from what the audience on twitter, youtube and in the actual debate, it seems that Nixon was controlling the flow. Kinda reminded me of Sanders Vs Clinton, or Trump Vs Clinton.

He hardly interrupted and reminded her in a polite way not do so while he was talking. She also failed to give concrete answers to policy questions; Cuomo had a clear advantage and stayed on message. Sometimes it seemed as if she didn't know basic things. In addition, Nixon couldn't answer or retreated when the governor asked her about tax returns of the last 20 years (something he did).

Being governor is more than just giving speeches and making talking points, and Cynthia Nixon did not make the impression that she is capable of running a state government. Cuomo on the other hand knew what he was talking about.

I completely disagree with this, but, as a previous poster notes, we may have just saw the debates differently.

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How much does the endorsement by the New York Times help Cuomo? I would imagine a lot as even though its not the strongest endorsement it does point out how flawed a candidate Nixon is.

It's an incredibly tepid endorsement, but the details don't really matter. Voters will see the headline and that's that.

I hope it helps as I shared it online and had several friends trash it and say they are voting for Nixon. I hope she doesn't win.  I'm going to have heart palpitations working the primary September 13th and until there are results

I mean, I would rather have someone who can fix the state than someone who has had 8 years to do so. I get the criticism that Nixon doesnt have experience or isnt fit for the job, but putting in the same corrupt jerk who has never fixed anything in the state is even worse, IMO. I would rather take the chance and possibly get a Phil Murphy, than stay with what I know will be a crappy governor.

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Got a poll, but.....its only for Queens.

Cuomo leads 60%-15% in Queens in gubernatorial race, in Attorney General's race Letitia James leads with 25 percent, Sean Patrick Maloney in second place with 13 percent, Zephyr Teachout with 11 percent, and Leecia Eve with 5%. (Poll of Queens only, not statewide)

https://mailchi.mp/43c4fbf25281/the-queens-tribune-dont-cry-for-the-daily-news-our-review-of-preparation-for-the-next-life-by-atticus-lish-meet-the-next-cuny-chancellor-560367?e=%5BUNIQID