MA-SEN Megathread: Senator Markey wins

[MillennialModerate]

This guy could sell you guys ocean front property in Kansas. My god

[MillennialModerate]

Do voters really care about political opportunism out of everything they've seen these past few years? I feel like that's not going to be a setback for Kennedy. Who are Biden primary voters going to support? (actually asking lol)... I feel like most of the people who are tuned out don't pay any attention to this back and forth. From the outside, it just looks like Markey dissing the Kennedys in a douchy way imo

Is Markey going to get hurt with turnout if universities are not at full capacity, people-wise?

I doubt it. He’s done a good job (well his highly talented staff has) of getting the young early
Vote out. It’s just a matter of the Kennedy people getting there people out.

Unfortunately the Biden comparison doesn’t hold because Biden got a plurality not a majority.

Where in most states Biden + Bloomberg + Amy was way more than Bernie + Warren, in Massachusetts it was different. So Joe would have to symphon off some of those voters which is possible because anyone over the age of 40 (and especially over the age of 65) has a very postive opinion of the Kennedy’s and knows the greatness of the name and just how much they’ve actually gotten done for the people.

So it’s unique in that most young people are for the old guy and most old people are for the young guy.

It’s sad most people can’t get past the “he’s entitled!” bullsh**t because if they looked at how these two have conducted themselves - the effort they’ve put forth into doing the job of being in Congress. It wouldn’t be close. At all.

[MillennialModerate]

The Kennedys know exactly what they're doing. "Mean tweets" is a dogwhistle for "he's too far left".

I support Markey as I've said but I'm unhappy that this bad behavior from certain extremely online people during the primary is carrying over to new campaigns. Ugh.

I happen to disagree. If we want to talk about more concrete hypocrisy and double standards, progressives are the only ones who have been held accountable for their supporters. We can debate about whether Pelosi's legitimately defending her friendships with the Kennedy family or not. What we can't debate is that the Joe Kennedys of the world won't hold their allies accountable for the same thing.

I actually thought that they'd pull the same line of attack with other supporters. There's always going to be a "dirtbag progressive" stereotype with any candidate that aligns with leftist ideas like MFA and the GND. There were rumblings of the Bro Playbook being used against Warren by the KHive, but I knew there would be a high-profile use of the same playbook at some point. I just didn't expect hard proof to come this soon.

If you look hard enough, you could find Kennedy supporters making toxic tweets as well. Or, in general, more establishment-leaning progressives. I've actually documented many of the latter here. To keep it short, Douglas Emhoff is friends with a KHive fan who doxed Kamala's enemies on Twitter in her name (and got kicked off DailyKos/DU for being explicitly anti-Semitic). Hillary Clinton sent a thank-you letter to an avowed anti-Semite, and Joy Reid followed someone who made explicit death threats to Bernie.

None of these political figures received any scrutiny for directly assocating with toxic figures in the establishment. If Some Dude with 100 followers makes an explicit death threat towards Kennedy, "real life isn't Twitter" gets thrown out the window and it becomes local news.

There's toxicity everywhere in every major political race - especially with the rise of social media. Instead of getting your news from one of a few options, you can tailor your feed however you like. A left-winger can set up their feed to get their "news" from Virgil Texas the same way that a KHiver can get theirs from Bravenak. Time and time again, only one side is expected to condemn their worst supporters - no matter how insignificant they are.

That's why I believe what I believe, and that's why I don't trust him to lead on progressive issues as much as Markey or even Warren.

You sound as tone deaf as the Bernie people who were vile in the presidential primary. Oh wait... you supported Bernie. So I guess this makes sense

[MillennialModerate]

Yeah Bloomberg’s support likely hurts a canidate position as far as progressives go

[MillennialModerate]

I said this race is over back in July and was mocked.

It’s been obvious since June ....So excited to see Markey return to being to the most useless politican in MA

[MillennialModerate]

The comments in this thread about him having a political career after this are laughable. You have probably the most baked in political advantage in the country: being a Kennedy in Massachusetts and you lose to quite literally the most useless politican in the state. The Bernie Bro’s latest fetish: Ed Markey. I’m sorry but you’re toast. Absolutely toast.

[MillennialModerate]

The comments in this thread about him having a political career after this are laughable. You have probably the most baked in political advantage in the country: being a Kennedy in Massachusetts and you lose to quite literally the most useless politican in the state. The Bernie Bro’s latest fetish: Ed Markey. I’m sorry but you’re toast. Absolutely toast.

Hear me out here, but maybe - just maybe - people don't (irrationally!) hate Ed Markey as much as you.

Just a thought, Joe

People are obsessing over the “dOnT cHaLleNgE aN iCuMbeNt”

They’re going to realize next year he’s a totally useless politician.

We’re embarrassing ourselves in front of the nation. But oh well.....

The career of a bright star in the party is going to fall apart for 6 years of what .....?

[MillennialModerate]

I received my ballot in the mail today. Voted Kennedy for Senate and Mermell for House. We'll have to see what happens on September 1, but I think Markey is favored based on recent polling. I do think Kennedy can still win this, though.

You’re out of your mind.

I’ll never post again if Kennedy wins (since I’m assuming that’s what most here would want lol)

But there is simply very little chance. Doug Jones in Alabama chance.

[MillennialModerate]

I received my ballot in the mail today. Voted Kennedy for Senate and Mermell for House. We'll have to see what happens on September 1, but I think Markey is favored based on recent polling. I do think Kennedy can still win this, though.

You’re out of your mind.

I’ll never post again if Kennedy wins (since I’m assuming that’s what most here would want lol)

But there is simply very little chance. Doug Jones in Alabama chance.

Calm the f**k down there, Joe, your internals can't be that bad

I know some people who work for the campaign and internals show him down 1-2, but showed him down 7-8 a month ago, 3-4 a week ago. And Ed’s numbers static. So the theory is a strong finish gets Joe over the top. I simply don’t buy it. This thing is over and so is his career.

We’re going to lose a talented, caring, empathetic, intelligent young star in the party who yes also happens to have dynastic greatness in his blood as well. All for someone who is beyond useless.

[MillennialModerate]

"But i'm not running on my name guys, swearsies!"

Markey can’t even run on his name,

Markeys campaign slogan is noun, a verb and AOC.

[MillennialModerate]

I received my ballot in the mail today. Voted Kennedy for Senate and Mermell for House. We'll have to see what happens on September 1, but I think Markey is favored based on recent polling. I do think Kennedy can still win this, though.

You’re out of your mind.

I’ll never post again if Kennedy wins (since I’m assuming that’s what most here would want lol)

But there is simply very little chance. Doug Jones in Alabama chance.

Calm the f**k down there, Joe, your internals can't be that bad

I know some people who work for the campaign and internals show him down 1-2, but showed him down 7-8 a month ago, 3-4 a week ago. And Ed’s numbers static. So the theory is a strong finish gets Joe over the top. I simply don’t buy it. This thing is over and so is his career.

We’re going to lose a talented, caring, empathetic, intelligent young star in the party who yes also happens to have dynastic greatness in his blood as well. All for someone who is beyond useless.

For the last time (and I don't know why I'm doing this), I don't care about "dynastic greatness in his blood." This is a Republic not a divine right monarchy.

Clearly the way I worded it was “yes, he has blah blah blah”. Another words: Yes that’s a fact but that’s besides the point. Not the way you to interpreted it though

[MillennialModerate]

Can someone explain to me what the hell is the Oremine

[MillennialModerate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egc1GKyXgAAG2FZ?format=jpg&name=small

Does this mean that all 55 4th Generation Kennedys should become senators?

I'm afraid of what MM's answer to this question will be.

Lol No. But the Kennedy’s got to be the Kennedy’s for a reason. Good looks and tragedy didn’t hurt but they are brilliant at connecting with the average voter. Despite there privileged life you never get the sense they don’t get what the average man is going through.

It’s literally been numbing to me to see how people have turned on this guy ... and what’s made it worse is - for Ed Markey?!?!?!?!?!. Would I take Joe over pretty much anyone in the state? Probably. But I’d GET it if Pressley or Healey we’re catching on. Or if this was about Warren. But Ed Markey?! ED MARKEY?!?!?

[MillennialModerate]

This race isnt over yet, and we will find out soon enough

I’m sorry and I mean this respectfully ....


You literally know zero about politics if you think this is still a race. This is over.

[MillennialModerate]

6 years of seeing doomer **** happen in elections have taught me that Kennedy still might pull this out.

He will, he is a Kennedy.

Is this some reverse psychology? If it were possible to bet online I’d literally bet $400-$100 odds Markey wins this thing. I felt that way long before anyone else was even hinting at a Markey win. Weird how the Kennedy supporter and Markey loather was first time see this coming

[MillennialModerate]

Poor Kennedy. This is an ad by the Electrical Workers' union trying to support him. They have a giant Kennedy sign by their headquarters alongside I-93 in...

the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston.

Who wants to tell Kennedy that there's no such place as Worchester, MA?

https://twitter.com/JohnEWalsh14/status/1300089011499929600

Why do we say poor Kennedy and he is wealthy, Warren is bound to go the Cabinet and Pressley or whomever wants her seat will run for it.


Among people of color, in other states, we are baffled as to a Markey beating a Kennedy that would only happen in Boston

MA is consistently losing population anyways, since it has the highest unemployment rate and the Patriots don't have Brady any longer

What the hell are you saying?

[MillennialModerate]

Imma call it now Kennedy wins comfortably tomorrow

That might be the worst prediction this website has ever seen.

I’ll Venmo you $200 if Kennedy wins comfortably (5+)

Hell, I’ll throw $100 if he wins at all

[MillennialModerate]

I’ve been in constant contact with someone working on the campaign.

Around 9-10 there was shock and enthusiasm as early numbers in key spots were about as good as can be expected but they’ve dropped off considerably. Tone I’m getting is (as I have been) resigned to a defeat.

[MillennialModerate]

The cities are terrible but the south coast is off the charts.

I’ve talked to people in the campaign - Markey by 5-7 right now likeliest outcome

[MillennialModerate]

Cmon Senator--Elect Kennedy, as you can use your wealth to get us the Senate majority

Would you stop.

Lol I’m getting live updates and it’s not looking good at all

[MillennialModerate]

I think Kennedy will take it by less than 1%

I’ve seen early numbers turnout wise and there’s no chance.

Markey might not hit double digits but it would take a last second MIRACLE to get this race under 2%

[MillennialModerate]

I hope Kennedy wins just so the Markey stans will quit being insufferable.

Your mouth to gods ears but I’ve talked to the campaign and the numbers looked good but not enough. It’s can be anywhere from Markey +3-+9

[MillennialModerate]

What to look for:


North of Boston: HEAVY Markey
South: HEAVY Kennedy
WMA: Should be Markey

Lowell, Lawrence should be heavy Markey
Worcester moderate Kennedy
Boston is a tossup

[MillennialModerate]

Lol goodnight. Markey has this way easier than it looked all day.

South shore towns only breaking for Joe by 3-4%

My state messed up big time:

[MillennialModerate]

Guys. I don’t know if I’m the only MA guy checking in but the keys that make Markey likely to be projected very soon:

• Low turnout in Lawrence
• South numbers for Kennedy but by single digits.
• Small burbs with well off rich folks are exploding for Markey by 70% in some cases

It’ll be closer than the polls but not by much. Markey has this won.

As I’ve said since June