January 6th legal proceedings and investigations megathread

[Tekken_Guy]

Emily Kohrs.

What was this woman thinking? She's the best the Grand Jury could come up with to make forewoman? And shame on the media for pressing her to go further and further.

Kohrs has singlehandedly complicated the case, and her actions call into question the integrity of the entire process. Totally unprofessional, and she seems like a bimbo gushing about how she would've liked to subpoena Trump simply so she could swear him in and get her 60 seconds with him.

All of this might be just enough to allow Trump to escape any kind of justice yet again.

Can you explain how this helps Trump in a court of law?

[Tekken_Guy]

Emily Kohrs.

What was this woman thinking? She's the best the Grand Jury could come up with to make forewoman? And shame on the media for pressing her to go further and further.

Kohrs has singlehandedly complicated the case, and her actions call into question the integrity of the entire process. Totally unprofessional, and she seems like a bimbo gushing about how she would've liked to subpoena Trump simply so she could swear him in and get her 60 seconds with him.

All of this might be just enough to allow Trump to escape any kind of justice yet again.

Can you explain how this helps Trump in a court of law?

The theory is that the publicity will prejudice the members of a real grand jury with a real power to indict, because they all read the newspapers and/or Atlas. It is not going anywhere. This foreplay is not going to let Trump skate if he committed a crime on this matter, except I am quite confident based on what I know that he didn't.

Are you implying that Trump didn’t commit a crime?

[Tekken_Guy]

Emily Kohrs.

What was this woman thinking? She's the best the Grand Jury could come up with to make forewoman? And shame on the media for pressing her to go further and further.

Kohrs has singlehandedly complicated the case, and her actions call into question the integrity of the entire process. Totally unprofessional, and she seems like a bimbo gushing about how she would've liked to subpoena Trump simply so she could swear him in and get her 60 seconds with him.

All of this might be just enough to allow Trump to escape any kind of justice yet again.

Can you explain how this helps Trump in a court of law?

The theory is that the publicity will prejudice the members of a real grand jury with a real power to indict, because they all read the newspapers and/or Atlas. It is not going anywhere. This foreplay is not going to let Trump skate if he committed a crime on this matter, except I am quite confident based on what I know that he didn't.

Are you implying that Trump didn’t commit a crime?

Based on what I know, I am stating it, not merely implying it, as to the attempt to corrupt the election or storm the Capitol. The best paths involve the false statements regarding documents he should not have had in his possession (papergate), a path degraded by Biden and Pence doing the same thing, albeit without lying, and tax and other personal and corporate frauds.

That does not mean he will not be indicted on alleged crimes based on election related raps, but in the end he will skate if indicted, and perhaps even get a new lease on political life if the indictment(s) crash and fail. I hope calmer heads will prevail.

Why would he skate if indicted? Can you explain to me what would happen after he is indicted?

[Tekken_Guy]

Emily Kohrs.

What was this woman thinking? She's the best the Grand Jury could come up with to make forewoman? And shame on the media for pressing her to go further and further.

Kohrs has singlehandedly complicated the case, and her actions call into question the integrity of the entire process. Totally unprofessional, and she seems like a bimbo gushing about how she would've liked to subpoena Trump simply so she could swear him in and get her 60 seconds with him.

All of this might be just enough to allow Trump to escape any kind of justice yet again.

Can you explain how this helps Trump in a court of law?

The theory is that the publicity will prejudice the members of a real grand jury with a real power to indict, because they all read the newspapers and/or Atlas. It is not going anywhere. This foreplay is not going to let Trump skate if he committed a crime on this matter, except I am quite confident based on what I know that he didn't.

Are you implying that Trump didn’t commit a crime?

Based on what I know, I am stating it, not merely implying it, as to the attempt to corrupt the election or storm the Capitol. The best paths involve the false statements regarding documents he should not have had in his possession (papergate), a path degraded by Biden and Pence doing the same thing, albeit without lying, and tax and other personal and corporate frauds.

That does not mean he will not be indicted on alleged crimes based on election related raps, but in the end he will skate if indicted, and perhaps even get a new lease on political life if the indictment(s) crash and fail. I hope calmer heads will prevail.

Why would he skate if indicted? Can you explain to me what would happen after he is indicted?

The prosecution fails, either with a jury if not dismissed by a trial judge or on appeal. Perhaps I am missing the trust of your question. I don't think Trump committed a crime on the matters that i described based on what I know so far.

So you are implying that Trump did nothing illegal regarding the Georgia case and there are no ground to prosecute him.

[Tekken_Guy]

I do have a tendency to assume the best in people most of the time, but it looks to me like after her early attempts to help Trump and getting throughly slapped down by a higher court, Cannon seems to have learned her lesson and is steering a good compromise course -- at least for now.  (Remember one definition of a compromise: an agreement that makes all parties equally unhappy.)

Two to one odds that she will grant a motion for continuance somewhere down the road for some remotely barely able to keep a straight face in court reason given by the Trump defense team.

She wants him to be acquitted before the election.

If she acts like a MAGA hack in the trial she will get slapped down by the 11th Circuit and possibly removed from the case altogether.

[Tekken_Guy]

I do have a tendency to assume the best in people most of the time, but it looks to me like after her early attempts to help Trump and getting throughly slapped down by a higher court, Cannon seems to have learned her lesson and is steering a good compromise course -- at least for now.  (Remember one definition of a compromise: an agreement that makes all parties equally unhappy.)

Two to one odds that she will grant a motion for continuance somewhere down the road for some remotely barely able to keep a straight face in court reason given by the Trump defense team.

She wants him to be acquitted before the election.

If she acts like a MAGA hack in the trial she will get slapped down by the 11th Circuit and possibly removed from the case altogether.

She'll try to be sneaky about it.

Even if she does act sneaky, the DOJ can appeal to the 11th and get her taken off the case whenever they want.

28 U.S.C. § 455(a) says “Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned“.

[Tekken_Guy]

Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

What it can do is bring those undecideds home to Biden in a big way.

[Tekken_Guy]

Nice! Since Cannon rejected that time slot for MAL it's left nicely open for this.

If they did that schedule we might have a verdict before Super Tuesday. Although my guess if the judge will give it a few more months given quantity of discovery.

TRUMP is going to get convicted before the General Election at least in one case, maybe more. That's the big thing here.

Good Luck to the Republican Party to cope with this!

To be honest, I'm not sure whether this will actually have an impact on the electorate in the November election. Anyone who's still with Trump as of today won't abandon him because of that as they just see this a a political conspiracy to silence him.

He might lose some institutional support or from Republican officeholders/donor circles, but it won't matter all that much. He won in 2016 without their support as well.

What it can do is bring those undecideds home to Biden in a big way.

Trump got 42 % in Cobb County, GA & 40 % in Gwinnett County, GA in 2020. Biden might be on track to with those two Counties with over 60 % of the Vote with a Trump Conviction. Trumps support in Maricopa County will crater. Biden actually might have a shot at Florida if he can win Pinellas, Hillsborough, Seminole and Duval County and increase his margin in Palm Beach and Broward.
 
Counties like Robeson in NC will flip to Biden. Biden will win Washoe County, NV by double digits.

Outside of “shot at Florida” and Robeson that sound reasonable.

[Tekken_Guy]

https://twitter.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1753256050394853463

Wait so Trump survives without any convictions outside possibly NY?

Calvin Coolidge Project is a MAGA account who spin everything in his favor.

[Tekken_Guy]

Dammit, it sounds like it's over.  **** SCOTUS.
There's really no way the trial can happen before the election now.
There needs to be a least three months after the SCOTUS ruling before the trial can start.
And per Justice Department policy, the trial of a political candidate occur within two months before an election.

This is just crushing.  Between this and Biden's rapid physical decline, I think Trump may now be a huge favorite to be elected.

How would you rate his chances percentage wise?

[Tekken_Guy]

Anyone else think this is Alito and Thomas signaling they’re ready for Trump to replace them?

[Tekken_Guy]

Trump just won the election.

I thought he won the election on October 7th?

[Tekken_Guy]

Trump’s plan to use Judge Cannon to block Judge Chutkan and avoid trial

Former President Donald Trump’s lawyers see a major opportunity this week to use his criminal document mishandling case in Florida to create an impasse on his calendar for the two federal judges overseeing his major criminal cases.

Juggling his campaign and court calendar and playing his cases off one another is a key part of Trump’s legal strategy. The ultimate goal, his team has said openly, is to prevent Trump from being tried in federal court before voters cast their ballots in the 2024 general election.

A primary aim for Trump’s legal team, according to people familiar with the strategy, is to put the judge in DC overseeing the 2020 federal election obstruction case, Tanya Chutkan, in a position where she can’t start a trial before Election Day.

“Meaning, ice her,” said a person familiar with Trump’s trial schedule strategy. “Making it impossible for her to jam a trial down before the election, by things that are out of her control.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/politics/trump-judge-cannon-chutkan-trial-plan/index.html

For all the talk of Trump's defense team being dumber than a bag of bricks from people here and elsewhere, I think they've actually done reasonably well in their efforts to delay all of Trump's trials but the weaker New York one.

It's the only strategy they have, because he's obviously guilty.

It's paying off. The Supreme Court may have killed the entire case, due to how far it's going to delay things now.

That renders the strategy with Cannon moot though. With DC and GA off the calendar I wonder if Trump wants to go to trial in FL so he can get acquitted before the election.

[Tekken_Guy]

Trump’s plan to use Judge Cannon to block Judge Chutkan and avoid trial

Former President Donald Trump’s lawyers see a major opportunity this week to use his criminal document mishandling case in Florida to create an impasse on his calendar for the two federal judges overseeing his major criminal cases.

Juggling his campaign and court calendar and playing his cases off one another is a key part of Trump’s legal strategy. The ultimate goal, his team has said openly, is to prevent Trump from being tried in federal court before voters cast their ballots in the 2024 general election.

A primary aim for Trump’s legal team, according to people familiar with the strategy, is to put the judge in DC overseeing the 2020 federal election obstruction case, Tanya Chutkan, in a position where she can’t start a trial before Election Day.

“Meaning, ice her,” said a person familiar with Trump’s trial schedule strategy. “Making it impossible for her to jam a trial down before the election, by things that are out of her control.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/26/politics/trump-judge-cannon-chutkan-trial-plan/index.html

For all the talk of Trump's defense team being dumber than a bag of bricks from people here and elsewhere, I think they've actually done reasonably well in their efforts to delay all of Trump's trials but the weaker New York one.

It's the only strategy they have, because he's obviously guilty.

It's paying off. The Supreme Court may have killed the entire case, due to how far it's going to delay things now.

That renders the strategy with Cannon moot though. With DC and GA off the calendar I wonder if Trump wants to go to trial in FL so he can get acquitted before the election.

There’s no way Trump is getting acquited in the FL case.
He’s ironclad no-brainer open-and-shut guilty in that one.  He might get a hung jury just due to some rogue juror.  But you’re never going to get a jury to unanimously agree to just nullify for no legal reason.

OK maybe she dismissed them right at the end of the election for October surprise?