NV Caucus Results Thread (doors close at 2 CT)

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When are we going to see the first results?

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There is zero evidence in American history that the suburbs dislike socialist candidates

Yes there is. A socialist has never been elected president genius.  Also Bernie is doing awful in the suburbs so far in this primary.

FDR is at least socialist, maybe even communist, and he is also the longest serving president ever.

FDR was not a socialist.

While FDR is far from perfect, he killed communism in America by a historically left-wing presidency. He's certainly a great president, and did exactly the right thing in WW2 and to solve The Great Depression by giving people stimulus. I mean he's more socialist than Maduro because he actually did something for the working class, while Maduro is incompetent.

FDR is not a socialist or communist, but maybe the left's Reagan.

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If Sanders is that strong with Hispanics, he easily will win NV in a GE, and mark my words will make TX competitive. Just sad that a nobody will run for the senate seat in TX. If we had Beto vs Cruz in 2020 with Sanders as nominee, Beto would've been pulled over the top.

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People talk about suburban voters in Maricopa, but goddamn Bernie might just turbocharge nonvoting Hispanics, if going by these results, in a GE.

Hillary crushed him with Hispanics in 2016 and that didnt translate much to the GE.

Bernie isn't Hillary.

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https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett/status/1231345694599811073

Sanders voted against comprehensive immigration reform, and his M4A and Green New Deal proposals are so expensive and far-fetched that they are far less likely to get passed than the plans of other candidates.  Meaning on all three of her issues, Sanders is the least likely candidate to actually enact positive change.

So I personally find a good number of Sanders' plans somewhat unrealistic, but one of Trump's major campaign points was also unrealistic (building a big beautiful wall along the Mexican border AND Mexico will pay for it).  

All I'm saying is that I'm not sure how much "unrealistic plans" affect whole-scale voting in today's political climate, though it might be different for Republicans vs. Democrats.  

The wall though costs around 50 billion while Bernie’s plan costs more than 60 trillion . Trump actually could have got the wall passed if he wanted to but it’s just that he likes it more as a political issue rather than a policy one

Well, The GOP wants to build a wall, while Bernie wants everyone to be covered by healthcare insurance, takes care of the climate and incentivize millions of workers with a new deal, and while the GND costs a lot, it will also be good for the economy and yield earnings. Climate change should be no.1 priority. Scale back military costs, and increase tariffs, taxes on the rich and multinationals and we have the money.

I agree it isn't likely to be enacted, but sometimes a presidency is about prestige rather than ideas. Sanders as president would be a political revolution, which will dramatically change the Democratic Party, inspire young people, expand the progressive caucus and that's what we want.

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There is no way in hell I will vote for Bernie if he is the Dem nominee, even if I am somehow living in a battleground state by then

Somebody like you voting for the Democratic Party means it has long since died, intellectually and otherwise.

 I would vote to reelect a professional and well behaved Trump

No offense OSR, I like you quite a lot

But it is very disappointing that you'd support a blank slate with Trump's policies. These policies are destructive, dangerous, and ripping America apart. It's not just the tweets.

Depends on what you mean by policy vs behavior.

Him lashing out on his allies, the Ukraine Scandal, putting yes men everywhere, dividing this nation in my opinion are not due to policies they are due to his behavior. If you look at it policy-wise:

On Economics and Judicial Picks: Trump is a standard conservative

On Immigration: He basically is first term Obama(his rhetoric is what is really bad on this issue and a professional Trump wouldnt do this)

On Trade: He got USCMA passed and I think we need to fight back against the Chinese hard



See Trump without his behavior would not be the Trump we know at all

I agree that Trump isn't that bad policy wise, but his behaviour is absolutely disgusting, and I think Bernie's policies would be far better in all aspects.

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Sorry guys. It was a fake wapo account


I apologize for falling for it. A legit journalist I follow retweeted it which is why I thought it was real


I’m sorry for not checking for the blue check mark

Thought it was fake news and i was correct. No worries, you're not to blame for it.

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Sanders will get 34-35 % in the end when all is said and done regarding Nevada. That's HUGE. He has gone from 26 % in IA & NH into the Mid 30ties.

The Biden Campaign celebrating a 2nd Place which isn't confirmed is amusing!

Did Pete already claim "victory" for getting 2nd place?

Well yeah even Klob claimed victory.

They're all going to claim victory after victory and just try to hold on until the contested convention. That's their tactic. It would honour them if they admit their losses, but the ego's are just too high. And why is the moderate D field so absolutely god damn terrible. Only Klobuchar is acceptable, but if it is true that she handles her colleagues so badly, i'm not sure if i want her as VP. Without that, yes certainly. I also don't want Warren "i do not want to shake hands with you because you're a sexist" as VP. I would be really disappointed with Warren as VP. Sanders should double down on his VP choice, and choose a progressive young female VP like Pramila Jamaypal or Nina Turner.

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I'm not thrilled about Bernie winning

But Pete...my god he is smarmy.

All efforts must be put in to defeat No Policy Pete and Xerox Mike.

Biden is compared to those two an angel. But right now i don't like any of the candidates in the race now, aside of Bernie himself. My preferred VP pick from all the ones that have ran is Andrew Yang. Young, inspiring, enterprising, Asian-American, has good progressive proposals and might even convince some CEO's to jump on the Bernie train. It will be record turn out from Hispanics and young voters if we have Yang on the ticket.

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I'm not thrilled about Bernie winning

But Pete...my god he is smarmy.

All efforts must be put in to defeat No Policy Pete and Xerox Mike.

Biden is compared to those two an angel. But right now i don't like any of the candidates in the race now, aside of Bernie himself. My preferred VP pick from all the ones that have ran is Andrew Yang. Young, inspiring, enterprising, Asian-American, has good progressive proposals and might even convince some CEO's to jump on the Bernie train. It will be record turn out from Hispanics and young voters if we have Yang on the ticket.

Biden is in my view leagues above both of them and I would happily support him over either NDA Mike or Smarmy Pete.

As for Bernard's Veep, I expect and desire a pivot to the center with Klobuchar.

Maybe even Steyer...

Agreed. I disliked Biden a lot, but he has grown back onto me as all cats with 9 lives do, and i would happily support Biden over Trump. I refuse to support Bloomberg over Trump though, and I have a huge issue with Pete right now, but would still back him over Trump.

And i don't think he will choose Klobuchar. I think he will choose someone loyal as VP. Although of the moderate candidates, Amy is by far the best one.

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I'm not thrilled about Bernie winning

But Pete...my god he is smarmy.

All efforts must be put in to defeat No Policy Pete and Xerox Mike.

Biden is compared to those two an angel. But right now i don't like any of the candidates in the race now, aside of Bernie himself. My preferred VP pick from all the ones that have ran is Andrew Yang. Young, inspiring, enterprising, Asian-American, has good progressive proposals and might even convince some CEO's to jump on the Bernie train. It will be record turn out from Hispanics and young voters if we have Yang on the ticket.

Biden is in my view leagues above both of them and I would happily support him over either NDA Mike or Smarmy Pete.

As for Bernard's Veep, I expect and desire a pivot to the center with Klobuchar.

Maybe even Steyer...

Agreed. I disliked Biden a lot, but he has grown back onto me as all cats with 9 lives do, and i would happily support Biden over Trump. I refuse to support Bloomberg over Trump though, and I have a huge issue with Pete right now, but would still back him over Trump.

And i don't think he will choose Klobuchar. I think he will choose someone loyal as VP. Although of the moderate candidates, Amy is by far the best one.

Yeah that's my problem.

"Loyal" sounds like a Trump thing and I bleeegghhh to that

Maybe not loyal, but someone who's a fellow progressive to energize progressives even more. That's what i meant. I don't know if it's the right thing to do, but it's what I believe he will do.

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Do I have to like Bill DeBlasio, now?
https://twitter.com/BilldeBlasio/status/1231392649384472576?s=20

Apparently yes

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I'm not thrilled about Bernie winning

But Pete...my god he is smarmy.

All efforts must be put in to defeat No Policy Pete and Xerox Mike.

Biden is compared to those two an angel. But right now i don't like any of the candidates in the race now, aside of Bernie himself. My preferred VP pick from all the ones that have ran is Andrew Yang. Young, inspiring, enterprising, Asian-American, has good progressive proposals and might even convince some CEO's to jump on the Bernie train. It will be record turn out from Hispanics and young voters if we have Yang on the ticket.

Biden is in my view leagues above both of them and I would happily support him over either NDA Mike or Smarmy Pete.

As for Bernard's Veep, I expect and desire a pivot to the center with Klobuchar.

Maybe even Steyer...

Personally I'd love Duckworth or Baldwin. Both would be symbolic of a desire for Bernie to appeal to the Midwest and moderates/party insiders (and symbolic of a pivot following the primaries). One would be the first LGBT VP, while the other would be the first disabled war veteran VP. Of course, either would be the first female VP.

I would be pleased with both

Although I couldn't stomach a pick like Nina Turner or Tulsi Gabbard. One of whom is grossly unqualified and the other is awful.

In that case I guess as a New Yorker I'd vote for Bernie, but I wouldn't rule out a Phil Scott write in.

Well let's hope he chooses Baldwin and she agrees.

A right-wing populist nationalist called the Trump of Belgium endorsed Gabbard and since i've read that i don't like her anymore. She's a fake progressive.

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Hmm.

What is this mess ?

NYT says just 4% reported, yet Pete’s website says with 26% in, he gets 2nd place with 21% of the delegates ...

I'm going to sleep, but I'm really done with that Pete guy.
Pete is lying

Whoooaaaaooo