Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[Sir Mohamed]

Claiming Joe Biden is racist is just ridiculous. What far more concerns me about the dude is that he looks old and seems not to create much excitement.

[Sir Mohamed]

To be fair, his debate performance wasn't too bad. Better than I expected, though not great either. I don't understand why he didn't prepare better for the segregation senators remarks. It must have been obvious for him to be confronted with this.

[Sir Mohamed]

I don't think this performance will seriously hurt his campaign, but it probably won't help him much either.

The question is whether he learns from his underwhelming performance for the coming debates. I doubt.

[Sir Mohamed]

Is this just my impression, but I think the main reason he starts to stumble is not because of policy issues, but because Biden has changed since he's been VP. He looks much older and not nearly as sharp as usual. Compare this debate performance to the one against Paul Ryan in 2012. Back then, the Obama team send him out to be more aggressive after President Obama had a bad night with the first debate against Romney.

[Sir Mohamed]

https://mobile.twitter.com/GrabienMedia/status/1147103888392249344

What? Interference did happen in 2016 under the Obama/Biden admin? Another gaffe? What is wrong with this dude?

[Sir Mohamed]

Biden unveils health care plan: Affordable Care Act 2.0

Democratic front-runner Joe Biden today will unveil a health plan that’s intended to preserve the most popular parts of Obamacare — from Medicaid expansion to protections for patients with pre-existing conditions — and build on them with a new government-run public insurance option.

Biden would also empower Medicare to directly negotiate drug prices, allow the importation of prescription drugs from abroad and extend tax credits to help tens of millions of Americans buy lower-priced health insurance.

Although I prefer universal health care, this would be a significant improvement from where we are now. Neither will happen though if the GOP keeps the senate, regardless of who is prez from January 2021 onward. Biden is wrong by saying the GOP will return to normalcy after Trump is out. They will continue obstruction of any Dem prez until multiple and massive election losses happen.

[Sir Mohamed]

Let's get the facts straight, this was his granddaughter. It is still a very odd place to kiss one's granddaughter, but it was not some random underage girl.

Can the OP (or a mod) please close this thread.
Come on people.

The thread should be moved into the Biden megathread. This is not such a big deal it deserves an own topic.

[Sir Mohamed]

This is sad, I like Joe Biden, but he embarrasses himself with these gaffes. I think he and Sanders are too old.

[Sir Mohamed]

Expect more of this from the GOP, especially Trump if Biden is the nominee:

https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/status/1164874091679178752

Says a B-rated talkshow host and failed candidate for prez, who supports a man who thinks windmills cause cancer and hurricanes can be nuked. Shut up, Mr. Huckabee.

[Sir Mohamed]

Are you saying that...

Death is inevitable

As much as I love that post, I feel it's getting a bit past its sell by date.

Unfortunately, so is Joe Biden

This is yet another thinly veiled ageist attack. Joe Biden is fine, and his age should not be a disqualifying factor. I'm not sure why people are so outraged about older people running for office. Joe Biden is able to serve in the office of President, if elected, and that is all that should matter

Simple.

Young Democrats win...old ones lose. The last one under 55 that lost had an assist against him from some stooges in Florida, and before that, well...there was ratf*(king just for his campaign to be the campaign in the first place.

Everyone else since 1960 that won has been under 55.

I have doubts these candidates lost because of their age. George McGovern lost at 50, Al Gore "lost" at 52, and Johnson was 56 in 1964, but he was an incumbent prez. As things stand right now, Biden, Warren and Sanders would most likely beat Trump.

Striking is, however, Biden would be the oldest Dem nominee since Dukakis in 1988. And I mean all the following nominees were born after him.

[Sir Mohamed]

It is a burst blood vessel. It happens to all of us. Just because it happens to Biden does not make his health deteriorating.

What really concerns me is that there is almost no complete phrase coming out of Biden's mouth. He constantly stumbles, interrupts himself and frequently seems to have difficulty to find the right words. For sure, we all stumble at times no matter of age, but this concerns me. I'm afraid Joe Biden has, unfortunately, some cognitive problems. I don't know that of course, as I'm no doctor, but worries me regardless. To hit and take Trump down on a debate stage, we need someone with a very sharp mind.

[Sir Mohamed]

It is a burst blood vessel. It happens to all of us. Just because it happens to Biden does not make his health deteriorating.

What really concerns me is that there is almost no complete phrase coming out of Biden's mouth. He constantly stumbles, interrupts himself and frequently seems to have difficulty to find the right words. For sure, we all stumble at times no matter of age, but this concerns me. I'm afraid Joe Biden has, unfortunately, some cognitive problems. I don't know that of course, as I'm no doctor, but worries me regardless. To hit and take Trump down on a debate stage, we need someone with a very sharp mind.

I already ruled out considering him, but this is the last straw.

I will definitely vote for him in the GE if nominated and would do everything to get him elected. But he's not even my 2nd choice for the primary. If Harris flops I'll probably go for Warren for this and the enthusiasm reason.

To be clear: I like Joe Biden and respect him both as public servant and human being. He had a distinguished senate career and was an excellent VP for Obama. Therefore don't want him to be embarrassed in the GE. To be honest, I wish he stepped aside and remains an elder statesman. In his very own interest.

[Sir Mohamed]

Still Kamala Harris, maybe Tammy Baldwin. I don't think he picks Duckworth.

Dark horse: Hilda Solis

[Sir Mohamed]

Now that this has become a major headline and proves one more power abuse by Mr. Trump, wouldn't surprise to see a Biden bump in some polls.

[Sir Mohamed]

Probably not. Mathematically it's possible, for sure, but in practice not happening. If Biden loses IA and NH, that will cost him too much momentum to rebound. In this case, I predict a Biden win in SC, but with an underwhelming margin.

My gut feeling (no prediction) is that Buttigieg will either win IA outright or come in a strong 2nd, at the same time Biden and Sanders are very weak.

[Sir Mohamed]

Primaries are pretty much over, Biden has solidified the AA vote and Harris support. Biden wins primary by Super Tuesday, when the South votes.  On the GE. He can coopt the millionaire tax and student loan forgiveness, by rescinding the top brackets tax cuts. GOP love to say it raises taxes, but Trump keeps coming back to Speaker Pelosi asking for more money for the wall. With more money, we can fund wall, with Trump unaffordable tax cut repeal, thus social programs, like student loan forgiveness won't be cut.  Also, Section 8 vouchers can be opened up again.

Nope it is more likely than not that Biden loses the primaries.

I dont see how Warren can lose the Southern primaries and win, even if she does win Cali, TX VA and FL will cancel her delegate lead. Survey USA had Biden ahead in Cali

After all, even despite losing New York, Texas, Florida and California to Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primaries, Obama still won the nomination mostly due to his strength in the South thanks to black voter support.

Fore sure Obama did, but black support could be shifting if Biden does poorly in IA and NH. Remember southern blacks only started to shift to Obama after his upset in IA. Before, they were mostly behind HRC.

[Sir Mohamed]

Probably not. Mathematically it's possible, for sure, but in practice not happening. If Biden loses IA and NH, that will cost him too much momentum to rebound.

Because the demographics of the Democratic electorate in IA and NH totally resemble those of the Democratic electorate in NV, SC, etc.? Clinton nearly lost both states in 2016 and still won the nomination in a landslide.

If Biden ends up 3rd or even 4th in IA with less than 20% of the vote, which is possible, it will cost him so much momentum that will be hard to regain. The momentum will be with Warren then and may cause Sanders to drop out or collapse. I'm not saying Biden is done if he fails in IA and NH, but his chances for the nom would be substantially reduced.

[Sir Mohamed]

I think Biden is probably the likeliest of the leaders to outperform in primaries but underperform in caucuses (possibly significantly) much like Clinton in 2016

I think the opposite is more likely to happen. Biden has an enthusiasm problem, and in the end it counts who actually turns out. Nonetheless, Biden has more support than reading Twitter feeds and other online stuff pretend.

[Sir Mohamed]

Hunter Biden suspected of smoking crack in DC strip club’s VIP room

https://pagesix.com/2019/11/26/hunter-biden-suspected-of-smoking-crack-in-dc-strip-clubs-vip-room/

Hunter Biden was suspected of smoking crack inside a strip club where he dropped “thousands of dollars” during multiple visits — at the same time he held a seat on the board of a controversial Ukrainian natural gas company, The Post has learned.

I have some concerns over Biden, but this isn't one of them. Hunter Biden obviously is a HP.

[Sir Mohamed]

I would have handled the (ridiculous) points differently, but Biden's response and this recent campaign ad give me some needed reassurance he may be up to running a GE campaign. We need someone who can fight and not just cite, as important as they are, detailled plans. This is the old Joe Biden we know, who wanted take Trump behind the gym and beat the hell out of him for sexism. It's not how I would handle it, but if this makes Biden feel comfortable, it's to his credit because it let's him appear more authentic.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a small polling bump for him the next few days.