Is Jacques Chirac a conservative?

[Julien]

Yes, a very moderate conservative. Americans don't consider him conservative because he doesn't constantly talk about God or invade countries when it isn't in his nation's interest to do so.

[Julien]

Note: just because hes in the more conservative party in France doesnt mean hes still not a stupid pro-europe united nothings socialist

American consercatives are so ignorant. They try to portray France as being to the left of North Korea simply because we don't support thier foolish war. What exactly did Americans get out of going into Iraq?

N-O-T-H-I-N-G

and if France had joined you we would have lost our soldiers for nothing. There was no benefit. Americans should be saying "We should have listened to the French", because it is us who were right.

[Julien]

Note: just because hes in the more conservative party in France doesnt mean hes still not a stupid pro-europe united nothings socialist

American consercatives are so ignorant. They try to portray France as being to the left of North Korea simply because we don't support thier foolish war. What exactly did Americans get out of going into Iraq?

N-O-T-H-I-N-G

and if France had joined you we would have lost our soldiers for nothing. There was no benefit. Americans should be saying "We should have listened to the French", because it is us who were right.

shows how ignorant you frogs are
its not about our benefit! its about the IRAQIS and the middle easts benefits
fool

Thats what Americans say once the war is over. You morons were going on about weapons of mass destruction before the war. About how your security was at stake. Then when you find out there was no threat you say it was all about the Iraqis.

Also, I don't appreciate the racism. You'll never find me sinking down to your level by calling you a stupid, inbred, redneck.

[Julien]

Chirac:

- stopped nuclear testing and development
- championed the Euro, a foreign currency
- gave control of the most important economic forces to a foreign body
- supports gay marriage
- supports abortion

-We don't need to test our nuclear weapons anymore. And the foreigners, including the U.S., continually condemned us for it while we did it.

-I'm glad we use Euro's. It's good for France, and Chirac wants what is good for France. How is the American dollar doing right now? hehehe

-Again, the EU is good for France. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't looking out for France.

-Not to my knowledge

- So does Rudy Giuliani, is he a conservative?

[Julien]

Note: just because hes in the more conservative party in France doesnt mean hes still not a stupid pro-europe united nothings socialist

American consercatives are so ignorant. They try to portray France as being to the left of North Korea simply because we don't support thier foolish war. What exactly did Americans get out of going into Iraq?

N-O-T-H-I-N-G

and if France had joined you we would have lost our soldiers for nothing. There was no benefit. Americans should be saying "We should have listened to the French", because it is us who were right.

shows how ignorant you frogs are
its not about our benefit! its about the IRAQIS and the middle easts benefits
fool

Thats what Americans say once the war is over. You morons were going on about weapons of mass destruction before the war. About how your security was at stake. Then when you find out there was no threat you say it was all about the Iraqis.

Also, I don't appreciate the racism. You'll never find me sinking down to your level by calling you a stupid, inbred, redneck.

Im from connecticut actually so none of those labels apply and your still a frog bastard

the wmds are somewhere i do beleive that but yes, democracy is best for them if you like it or not, yes i know you cant make any more dirty deals with an american ally in the middle east but there are always more corrupt countires you can try to use to inflate your pathetic country
vive le roi!

I can speak English better than you! Yes, keep telling yourself the WMD's are somewhere. The U.S. government ended the search! They have basically admitted they were not there. So what if you are from Connecticut? You are still a stupid Texas redneck. Don't you have a rodeo to go to? Or maybe a hoedown? Get in any bar fights lately?

[Julien]

You ignored the gun control one.

Chirac is not pro-gun control

[Julien]

But you choose to live in Texas. That is like saying that if you are a member of the Commnuist Party, but were born into a Republican family, that you are not a Communist.

[Julien]

You ignored the gun control one.

Chirac is not pro-gun control

you're insane !!! naturally he support gun-control...

Gun-control as far as the U.S. is concerned, not France. To my knowledge he hasn't gotten any laws passed against guns.

[Julien]

But you choose to live in Texas. That is like saying that if you are a member of the Commnuist Party, but were born into a Republican family, that you are not a Communist.

He lives in Texas?

Yes and no we have no bar fights or rednecks here

There are no rednecks in Texas? That's not true, George Bush is from there.

And I would like to ask you again to stop refering to the French as frogs. I don't like racism.

[Julien]

But you choose to live in Texas. That is like saying that if you are a member of the Commnuist Party, but were born into a Republican family, that you are not a Communist.

He lives in Texas?

Yes and no we have no bar fights or rednecks here

There are no rednecks in Texas? That's not true, George Bush is from there.

Actually, George W. Bush is from Connecticut, not Texas.  He also went to Yale and Harvard, liberal bastions of education.

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The French is hardly a race.  That is sheer arrogance.

Bush is from Connecticut? That blows your "yankees are from Connecticut, not rednecks" argument out of the water.

We are not a pure race, but neither are blacks. Our mixture of ethnicities is unique to our nation.

[Julien]

Lets get back on topic.  Julien, if you consider Chirac a conservative, how about highlighting actions he has taken that we can deem conservative?

He has cut taxes and slimmed down the government. Isn't that typically the territory of conservatives? Plus he ordered those nuclear tests in Polynesia that you claim is something conservatives do.

[Julien]

Yes, your mixture has become one of pure crap, it lost its last dignity in 1789 and will never get it back
vive le roi

Are you a monarchist? Do you not support the American Revolution?

So you are saying my racial background is "pure crap"? That sounds pretty racist to me.

[Julien]

Lets get back on topic.  Julien, if you consider Chirac a conservative, how about highlighting actions he has taken that we can deem conservative?

He has cut taxes and slimmed down the government. Isn't that typically the territory of conservatives? Plus he ordered those nuclear tests in Polynesia that you claim is something conservatives do.

Is that all... please conitinue....
i can find 3 things that bush has done that the left likes, that diesnt make him a liberal

He is strong on law and order, opposes price controls, supports privitisation of government owned industries, etc.

[Julien]

Yes, your mixture has become one of pure crap, it lost its last dignity in 1789 and will never get it back
vive le roi

Are you a monarchist? Do you not support the American Revolution?

So you are saying my racial background is "pure crap"? That sounds pretty racist to me.

Yes i am a monarchist, no i dont support the american revolution or your french revolution, we in the US were just lucky that we did so well after ours (because we were transplanted englishmen)

yes, you are pure crap (perhaps a little impure?) i am quite racist if that what you would like but fire away, it does not bother me in the least
vive le roi  papist frogs

You admit to being racist, and now you insult my religion. How nice of you.

[Julien]

Yes, your mixture has become one of pure crap, it lost its last dignity in 1789 and will never get it back
vive le roi

Are you a monarchist? Do you not support the American Revolution?

So you are saying my racial background is "pure crap"? That sounds pretty racist to me.

Yes i am a monarchist, no i dont support the american revolution or your french revolution, we in the US were just lucky that we did so well after ours (because we were transplanted englishmen)

yes, you are pure crap (perhaps a little impure?) i am quite racist if that what you would like but fire away, it does not bother me in the least
vive le roi  papist frogs

You admit to being racist, and now you insult my religion. How nice of you.

Im not looking to be nice, just to present the facts, seems my premonitions are right.

I was being sarcastic. I just want to say your hatred of the French and Catholicism is apalling.

[Julien]

I'm sure you do, but whatever basis' you have are ridiculous.

[Julien]

I'm sure you do, but whatever basis' you have are ridiculous.

Not sure 400+ years of history is ridiculous

Your basis is your blind hatred of those who are differant from you.

[Julien]

I'm sure you do, but whatever basis' you have are ridiculous.

Not sure 400+ years of history is ridiculous

Your basis is your blind hatred of those who are differant from you.

theres nothing blind about your history, i have no problem with other races, etc just seems to be the low-countries brand socialist moron

You seem to have a problem with my race. And what is wrong with French history exactly? What have we done that is so wrong? It can't be any worse than American history(*whistles*Martin Luther King Day*whistles*)

[Julien]

lets start with your disgusting support of the papacy, willing to torture and kill to drive protestants and others out

That was before we had the revolution, when the monarchy that you support was in power. Since the revolution we have one of the strongest traditions of anti-clericalism. Strike 1!

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Napoleon was elected by plebiscite. And he was an emperor(I thought you supported monarchy?). Thousands of innocents were murdered as a result of war, not some holocaust as you imply. He was not oppresive to the French, and he instituted Napoleonic Code, and basis for law in most countries. Strike 2!

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We didn't collaborate with the Germans. We were defeated and occupied because the Americans refused to join the war until 1941. The Vichy government was basically run by Hitler. Strike 3! In American baseball you would be out.

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Examples? Oh, you mean since we didn't go into a war that was a gainst our interests we automatically support Iraq? The U.S. hasn't invaded Sudan, does that mean it supports the Sudanese government?
Oh wait, no oil in Sudan right? Well there was nothing in Iraq for us.

[Julien]

So what if we sold reactors to Saddam. Do you think we did it with the intention of having Iraq develop nuclear weapons?

Didn't the U.S. sell arms to Saddam?

[Julien]

-You said you didn't support the revolution, which threw out those people that kicked out the huegonots.

-A holocaust towards the Spanish, are you crazy?

-If the Americans had come in sooner France would not have fallen and Hitler would not have instituted the Vichy government. In any case, there is no way you can say the Vichy government was supported by even 35% of the French.

-Yes some funds were misappropriated. That isn't the fault of the French people nor was it supported by the French.

[Julien]

Maastricht: Je suis désolé. Ces Américains sont ennuyants.

Joe Republic, I know that TN2024 isn't responsible for all American misdeeds. He is just completely ignorant about everything.