The Hofoid House of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII

[DavidB.]

Somewhere around half those killed in the Holocaust were slavs

[DavidB.]

Zionism is an inherently nationalist ideology (and mostly an ethnonationalist one). Supporting mass immigration in Europe but not in Israel is hypocritical. Supporting big, beautiful walls in Israel to keep illegals and enemies out but thinking Canada and the U.S. should take in millions of immigrants is also hypocritical. That's basically all he said. I fail to see what's racist about it. It is correct.

Admittedly he said some more things regarding anti-Zionism not being anti-Semitic that I disagreed with, but that was not racist either.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

Its not Islamophobic, but it is Speciesist, so it is immoral either way.

I have been a vegetarian for well over two years because of an animal rights discussion on this forum and I don't disagree with this, but I would not use terms like "speciesist" because it makes your (otherwise good) argument come across as some ridiculous SJW talking point.

[DavidB.]

There is a concern that certain devout portions of their population might push back progress on women's rights and gay rights. I, myself, would not want to see women being shackled into their homes and being forced to wear restrictive clothing. I wouldn't want to see gay marriage and protections be rolled back. I want to be able to walk into Subway and get a ham sandwich (something increasingly difficult in places like the UK). I don't want our cities to turn into the no-go zones of Stockholm or Bradford, or Copenhagen.


...and I wouldn't want Christians pulling that crap either.

The whole thing is Islamophobic, but the ham sandwich part raises it to another level.

Wanting to eat pork (something people cannot accuse me of, btw) is Islamophobic? Okay.

He claims it's difficult to find a ham sandwich in the UK because 185 of more than 1500 Subways in the UK went to a halal menu.

Wrong. He claims that it is increasingly difficult. As more than 10% of Subways in the UK now apparently do not serve pork anymore, his claim seems to be objectively true.

[DavidB.]

I wouldn't expect a socially conservative person of fair skin from Iowa to understand why Trump is so unpopular among minorities, though.

Nice, some racism posted right into the thread.

[DavidB.]

I wouldn't expect a socially conservative person of fair skin from Iowa to understand why Trump is so unpopular among minorities, though.

Nice, some racism posted right into the thread.

You are racist for implying that "fair skin" is a bad thing.

Did no such thing; reading comprehension does not seem to be your strongest suit. It's okay to be white. When you say you "wouldn't expect a person of [insert color] skin to understand [X]", though, that's racist. Try making your point with actual arguments instead of cheap shots at people's ethnic background.

[DavidB.]

I wouldn't expect a socially conservative person of fair skin from Iowa to understand why Trump is so unpopular among minorities, though.

Nice, some racism posted right into the thread.

You are racist for implying that "fair skin" is a bad thing.

Did no such thing; reading comprehension does not seem to be your strongest suit. It's okay to be white. When you say you "wouldn't expect a person of [insert color] skin to understand [X]", though, that's racist. Try making your point with actual arguments instead of cheap shots at people's ethnic background.

Aren't you busy defending Neo-Nazis who happen to support Netanyahu?

Contradictio in terminis.

[DavidB.]

How can someone with such a rudimentary a. concept of American psephology and b. grasp of the English language have such confidence?

Disagree with him all you like, but I understand what he meant, even though his English is not perfect. How is your Russian?

[DavidB.]

No arguments, jdb? Okay then!

[DavidB.]

I mean, the post speaks for itself. You're basically saying that associating with neo nazis and indirectly encouraging antisemitic groups is OK as long as you support the Israeli government. I personally think that we should call out repugnant stuff like this both on the left and on the right. When Trump brings us a Christian fundamentalist who said we're all going to hell to an official ceremony, when he says that there are "very fine people" in a hate march of nazis and racists who scream "Jews will not replace us"- I couldn't care less about the fact that he's moving some embassy.

Nope, supporting Nazis and encouraging antisemitic groups is not okay at all. I don't think Bannon or Trump did that, though, but I would like to invite you to come up with examples that prove me wrong. The Christian guy at the embassy ceremony should not have been invited but I don't think saying we're all going to hell is necessarily antisemitic (but it's bad either way, agreed). In Charlottesville there were probably a lot of bad people and a few fine people on both sides. The Nazi protesters were bad and the Antifa counterprotesters were bad. Trump was probably too charitable to both sides. The "Jews will not replace us" chant was absolutely terrible but has never been condoned by Trump. His daughter is literally Jewish and so are his grandchildren. And it is a choice to attach so much weight to this perceived moral failure of Trump and not to look at his impressive support for Israel.

[DavidB.]

When Trump said “there are fine people on both sides” he implied that some of the counter-protestors were not white nationalists. Of course, the media ignored the fact that a sizable portion of those protesting the statue’s removal were run of the mill conservatives and labeled everyone who showed up as “white nationalists” because a handful of actual Nazis showed up the night before and did their lame little tiki march. It became a much broader event.

The fact that Antifa showed no discrimination in attacking the demonstrators shows how irresponsible and outright false our media has become. There will be other posters who will respond to this assuredly by insulting me, continuing to perpetuate the “official” narrative, and then lament the division in the country in a typical three act Atlas play.

But to continue the trope that Trump endorsed white supremacy after Charlottesville, or that both sides were basically black and white in terms of the context of responsibility, than you’re either willfully or inadvertently only worsening the divide.

Exactly.

[DavidB.]

The only way we can truly manage to rid the world of gender discrimination is an entire generation of people raised as theybies.

The best thing's that he isn't even trolling.

[DavidB.]

When was the last genocide of Israelis? Must've missed that one. Sorry for caring.

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