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« Reply #1100 on: September 25, 2016, 02:10:27 PM »

24% counted in Galicia:

PP: 53,5% 45
PSOE: 17,8% 13
En Marea: 14,7% 12
BNG: 8,0% 5
C's: 2,7% 0

50% counted in Pais Vasco:

PNV: 37,5% 28
Bildu: 21,5% 17
UP: 14,7% 12
PSOE: 12,2% 9
PP: 10,0% 9
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« Reply #1101 on: September 25, 2016, 02:12:44 PM »


Galicia

http://resultados2016.xunta.gal/11AU/DAU11999CM.htm?lang=gl

Pais Vasco

http://www.euskadielecciones.eus/resultados/indexambito?pAmbito=00000&pModoVisualizacion=1
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« Reply #1102 on: September 25, 2016, 02:14:54 PM »

Looks like PP over-performing exit polls in  Galicia so far
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« Reply #1103 on: September 25, 2016, 02:16:59 PM »

35% counted in Galicia:

PP: 51.49% 44
PSOE: 17.95% 13
En Marea: 15.67% 12
BNG: 8.12% 6
C's: 2.88% 0
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« Reply #1104 on: September 25, 2016, 02:18:15 PM »

Looks like PP over-performing exit polls in  Galicia so far

If Vigo, Coruña, Pontevedra and Santiago hold up, yes.
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« Reply #1105 on: September 25, 2016, 02:19:38 PM »

65% counted in Pais Vasco:

PNV: 37,4% 28
Bildu: 21,7% 17
UP: 14,6% 12
PSOE: 12,1% 9
PP: 10,1% 9
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« Reply #1106 on: September 25, 2016, 02:21:53 PM »

40% counted in Galicia

PP: 51,6% 42
PSOE: 18,0% 14
En Marea: 16,0% 12
BNG: 8,1% 6
C's: 2,9% 0

En Marea closing in on PSOE.
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« Reply #1107 on: September 25, 2016, 02:33:23 PM »

56% counted in Galicia:

PP: 49,7% 42
PSOE: 18,1% 14
En Marea: 17,3% 14
BNG: 8,2% 5
C's: 3,1% 0

88% counted in Pais Vasco

PNV: 37,5% 29
Bildu: 21,6% 17
UP: 14,8% 11
PSOE: 12,0% 9
PP: 10,1% 9
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« Reply #1108 on: September 25, 2016, 02:40:35 PM »

65% counted in Galicia

PP: 49,2% 42
En Marea: 17,7% 14
PSOE: 18,1% 13
BNG: 8,3% 6
C's: 3,2% 0

"Sorpasso" in Galicia
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« Reply #1109 on: September 25, 2016, 02:50:51 PM »

77% counted in Galicia:

PP: 48.52% 41
PSOE: 18.04% 14
En Marea: 18.22% 14
BNG: 8.33% 6
C's: 3.23% 0

Convergence to exit polls although it seems PP will outperform the exit polls vote share even if it does not exceed exit polls in terms of seats.
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« Reply #1110 on: September 25, 2016, 02:56:14 PM »

98.81% in Basque Country

PNV 37.59%   28
EH Bildu 21.28 %  18
EP  14.82%  11   
PSE-EE 11.93 %  9
PP 10.19%  9
C´S   2.02%  0
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« Reply #1111 on: September 25, 2016, 03:08:16 PM »

90% counted in Galicia:

PP: 47.98% 42
En Marea: 18.68% 14
PSOE: 17.89% 13
BNG: 8.36% 6
C's: 3.32% 0
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« Reply #1112 on: September 25, 2016, 03:31:44 PM »

Basque Country (99.9%)
EAJ/PNV 29; EH Bildu 17; Podemos 11; PSE-EE 9; PP 9

Galicia (95.4%)
PP 41; En Marea 14; PSOE 14; BNG 6
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« Reply #1113 on: September 25, 2016, 07:15:31 PM »

Quite an underperformance for UP (EP) in Euskadi, especially in Gipuzcoa, but I guess vote utile for Bildu played in full, as we could expect from the final polls. Interesting that, for now, both PNV-PSE or PNV-PP would have majorities. But with this mandate, I guess PNV will govern in minority making deals on the way.

In Galicia, slight underperformance also for En Marea, barely topping PSOE in votes but on par in seats. PP actually strengthening their share from 2012, and C's a non-entity.
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« Reply #1114 on: September 26, 2016, 04:20:43 AM »

Podemos rips the agreement with the PSOE in Castilla-La Mancha

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2016/09/26/actualidad/1474878315_387940.html
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« Reply #1115 on: September 26, 2016, 07:32:52 AM »

Any chance of Sanchez being ousted before a third election?
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« Reply #1116 on: September 26, 2016, 10:18:56 AM »

Basque Country (99.9%)
EAJ/PNV 29; EH Bildu 17; Podemos 11; PSE-EE 9; PP 9

Galicia (95.4%)
PP 41; En Marea 14; PSOE 14; BNG 6
Massive failure for anti-PP opposition. Problems inside En Marea between En Marea, Anova and Podemos barred a large breakthrough and Feijóo was able to separate from national PP.
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« Reply #1117 on: September 27, 2016, 04:22:45 AM »

Pedro Sánchez puts PSOE leadership to the vote:

http://elpais.com/elpais/2016/09/27/inenglish/1474963418_796797.html

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« Reply #1118 on: September 28, 2016, 11:27:47 PM »

Open war in the PSOE. The rebellion against Pedro Sánchez marks one of the party's darkest hours.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2016/09/28/inenglish/1475086379_198758.html
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« Reply #1119 on: September 29, 2016, 06:34:13 AM »

Catalan premier Carles Puigdemont undertakes the preparation of a "binding referendum" in 2017. The CUP (far-left, pro-independence) advocated an unilateral consultation as a pressure measurement on the regional government. Mr Puigdemont is facing a motion of confidence in the Parliament of Catalonia; likely he will pass it with the CUP support.

Meanwhile the PSOE is splitted in two and faces a dark future, embroiled in internal war and legal disputes.
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« Reply #1120 on: September 29, 2016, 07:25:13 AM »

Wait isn't Gonzalez a complete crook? Why does he still have influence within the PSOE?
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« Reply #1121 on: September 29, 2016, 08:09:11 PM »

Wait isn't Gonzalez a complete crook? Why does he still have influence within the PSOE?

Aside a crook, Felipe González is an historic leader and probably the most relevant figure of the democratic period begun in 1977. He served as PM from 1982 to 1996 and, with its lights and its shadows, his tenure was one of modernization of the country. The man is a living legend for many socialists and Pablo Iglesias made a mistake attacking him in the Congress of Deputies during the failed investiture of Pedro Sánchez. Even those socialists who don't side now with the friend of Carlos Slim and former PM are going to feel that an attack on González is an attack on PSOE.
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« Reply #1122 on: September 29, 2016, 08:27:46 PM »

Wait isn't Gonzalez a complete crook? Why does he still have influence within the PSOE?

Aside a crook, Felipe González is an historic leader and probably the most relevant figure of the democratic period begun in 1977. He served as PM from 1982 to 1996 and, with its lights and its shadows, his tenure was one of modernization of the country. The man is a living legend for many socialists and Pablo Iglesias made a mistake attacking him in the Congress of Deputies during the failed investiture of Pedro Sánchez. Even those socialists who don't side now with the friend of Carlos Slim and former PM are going to feel that an attack on González is an attack on PSOE.

Just a minor clarification, both for the Spanish speakers and for the rest. "Relevante" in Spanish does not have the same meaning as "relevant" in English. "Relevante" means "crucially important". "Relevant", of course, means "having something to do with". So, Felipe Gonzalez has, indeed, been a super-important player in Spanish history - not a somewhat obscure figure that may be suggested by the choice of the English word.
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« Reply #1123 on: September 30, 2016, 03:38:53 AM »

I meant "crucial" or "important". "Relevant" is a false friend. Thanks for the clarification and sorry for the bad wording.
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« Reply #1124 on: September 30, 2016, 10:56:25 AM »

It seems that if there is a third election this winter and the PSOE is in the shape it is in today the PP should emerge with a majority by itself and Podemos  would become the main Leftist opposition party.  PSOE would be wise to make a deal with PP while there is till or else their leverage will go down from here.
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