MI-GOV Megathread: 👵🏻 Gram died alone.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

#Realignment

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

#Realignment

As Trump said, we love our law enforcement!

[wbrocks67]

Anybody else watch the rest of the debate?

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1580722093137666048?t=nuHvMpEkTHNfOA6eC...

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Anybody else watch the rest of the debate?

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1580722093137666048?t=nuHvMpEkTHNfOA6eC...

That's... Terrifyingly effective.

[Lief 🗽]

God the Whitmer/Shapiro (or vice versa) ticket in 2028 is going to be so powerful (if the Democratic Party hasn't been banned by then).

[Orwell]

God the Whitmer/Shapiro (or vice versa) ticket in 2028 is going to be so powerful (if the Democratic Party hasn't been banned by then).

Yep, it'll be yet another milque-toast snoozefest, as they go down, I foresee President DeSantis / Vice President Deb Fischer defeats Whitmer/Shapiro at the 2028 election, with a map like : https://www.yapms.com/app/?m=hz51 , a landslide for the era, In 2032 I have heard that it will be a lot like 1908, but for Secretary of State Rand Paul, who will continue President DeSantis efforts to put America First and add onto to that by auditing the FED and returning America to the Gold Standad. Get ready for some suffering liberals...

[UncleSam]

God the Whitmer/Shapiro (or vice versa) ticket in 2028 is going to be so powerful (if the Democratic Party hasn't been banned by then).

Yep, it'll be yet another milque-toast snoozefest, as they go down, I foresee President DeSantis / Vice President Deb Fischer defeats Whitmer/Shapiro at the 2028 election, with a map like : https://www.yapms.com/app/?m=hz51 , a landslide for the era, In 2032 I have heard that it will be a lot like 1908, but for Secretary of State Rand Paul, who will continue President DeSantis efforts to put America First and add onto to that by auditing the FED and returning America to the Gold Standad. Get ready for some suffering liberals...

I kind of do agree that Whitmer / Shapiro would have very little appeal against an incumbent DeSantis. They're just very boring, white, midwestern establishment Ds who are not going to inspire a massive turnout boom necessary to oust an incumbent. They'd basically be running as Joe Biden 3.0 at that point, which literally only works when your opponent is Donald Trump.

Dems could beat an incumbent DeSantis if he mismanages things, but not with a ticket like that. Lowkey best option might be like a Joaquin Castro if he knocks off Cornyn in a DeSantis midterm in 2026 - someone who can put the sun belt back into play and counter trends among hispanics.

[wbrocks67]

God the Whitmer/Shapiro (or vice versa) ticket in 2028 is going to be so powerful (if the Democratic Party hasn't been banned by then).

Yep, it'll be yet another milque-toast snoozefest, as they go down, I foresee President DeSantis / Vice President Deb Fischer defeats Whitmer/Shapiro at the 2028 election, with a map like : https://www.yapms.com/app/?m=hz51 , a landslide for the era, In 2032 I have heard that it will be a lot like 1908, but for Secretary of State Rand Paul, who will continue President DeSantis efforts to put America First and add onto to that by auditing the FED and returning America to the Gold Standad. Get ready for some suffering liberals...

I kind of do agree that Whitmer / Shapiro would have very little appeal against an incumbent DeSantis. They're just very boring, white, midwestern establishment Ds who are not going to inspire a massive turnout boom necessary to oust an incumbent. They'd basically be running as Joe Biden 3.0 at that point, which literally only works when your opponent is Donald Trump.

Dems could beat an incumbent DeSantis if he mismanages things, but not with a ticket like that. Lowkey best option might be like a Joaquin Castro if he knocks off Cornyn in a DeSantis midterm in 2026 - someone who can put the sun belt back into play and counter trends among hispanics.

I can't speak to Whitmer because I don't live in MI, but these posts completely misread exactly why Shapiro is doing so well.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Whitmer won so easily in 2018 because she ran with Debbie S, STABENOW, whom easily defeated John James both Evers and Shapiro have Barnes and Fetterman Whitmer is all alone it's gonna be close but with Early voting Whitmer being only tied isn't that bad

Users always go negative when they see a bad poll for Ds and Early voting is underway

[Ferguson97]

“She’ll put the second amendment before second graders” is such a badass line, wow

[Progressive Pessimist]

“She’ll put the second amendment before second graders” is such a badass line, wow

The debate probably won't matter, but this line needs to be part of Democratic rhetoric on gun issues going forward. I wish I thought of it!

[wbrocks67]

It's literally exactly what we're seeing in PA. Dixon, Oz, etc., we're not going to stay at 37% forever.

https://twitter.com/ZachGorchow/status/1582377204075606020

[Pollster]

It's literally exactly what we're seeing in PA. Dixon, Oz, etc., we're not going to stay at 37% forever.

https://twitter.com/ZachGorchow/status/1582377204075606020

You can tell this person is exaggerating the number of "insiders" (a terrible and overdramatic term) he's spoken to because absolutely nobody thinks Whitmer is up by 9 points, and some would even balk at 5.

[wbrocks67]

It's literally exactly what we're seeing in PA. Dixon, Oz, etc., we're not going to stay at 37% forever.

https://twitter.com/ZachGorchow/status/1582377204075606020

You can tell this person is exaggerating the number of "insiders" (a terrible and overdramatic term) he's spoken to because absolutely nobody thinks Whitmer is up by 9 points, and some would even balk at 5.

Did you ever end up finding about that poll with a "modest" Fetterman lead? Does the margin rhyme with free to thrive? lol

(or that poll with the Oz lead lol)

[Pollster]

Did you ever end up finding about that poll with a "modest" Fetterman lead? Does the margin rhyme with free to thrive? lol

(or that poll with the Oz lead lol)

The modest Fetterman lead poll was a battleground congressional district poll. The Oz lead was a statewide and will probably not see the light of day.

[wbrocks67]

Did you ever end up finding about that poll with a "modest" Fetterman lead? Does the margin rhyme with free to thrive? lol

(or that poll with the Oz lead lol)

The modest Fetterman lead poll was a battleground congressional district poll. The Oz lead was a statewide and will probably not see the light of day.

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

[Pollster]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

[wbrocks67]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

Bless you.

I am going to assume it's PA-07 because the hopium for Wild is alive. (Fetterman up in that district would also be pretty great for him too)

But thank you again for all the insights and putting up with the questions! Really do appreciate it.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

How's this race going? Gretchen Whitmer is one of my favorite governors in the country.

Is she likely to win or what?

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

It's literally exactly what we're seeing in PA. Dixon, Oz, etc., we're not going to stay at 37% forever.

https://twitter.com/ZachGorchow/status/1582377204075606020

You can tell this person is exaggerating the number of "insiders" (a terrible and overdramatic term) he's spoken to because absolutely nobody thinks Whitmer is up by 9 points, and some would even balk at 5.

Reminds me of a bit from the late Louie Anderson when talking about how his mom would always gossip about the neighbors.

Louie would ask her how she knows all of this and she would just give him *that* look like she had *inside information*.  

[soundchaser]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

Might it have been the PA-07 poll we got today?

[Pollster]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

Might it have been the PA-07 poll we got today?

Nope!

[soundchaser]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

Might it have been the PA-07 poll we got today?

Nope!

Fab -- thanks!

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Very interesting - thank you! I know I keep bugging you, but any insights on any of the battleground congressional district polls? Or at least which district it was?

It's competitive. 

Also are there any races where you think Atlas is actually underestimating the Democrat? You don't have to say which one obviously.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

How's this race going? Gretchen Whitmer is one of my favorite governors in the country.

Is she likely to win or what?

So, no answer?