Italy 2013 official results thread

[Antonio the Sixth]

Anyway, Piemonte Senate final results have come up, and the Left wins by 0.5. So a Senate plurality is now assured.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What are the odds of another election before the end of the year? Seems likely with the state in the Senate.

Perfect way to give an absolute majority to Grillo in the senate.

He wouldn't be any worse than quite a few PMs Italy has actually had...

Who exactly would he be better than other than the obvious (Mussolini, Andreotti, Craxi, and Berlusconi)?

Only two precincts of the 133 for North and Central America are reporting but my guy is in third behind the center-left and Monti's candidate. 

Good, but sorry, Phil.

Anyway, Piemonte Senate final results have come up, and the Left wins by 0.5. So a Senate plurality is now assured.

Good.

[Franknburger]

PD wins Montenegro (3 votes more than Monti).

[ag]

What are the odds of another election before the end of the year? Seems likely with the state in the Senate.

Perfect way to give an absolute majority to Grillo in the senate.

Considering that it is he, who refuses to join in any coalition, this would be triply insane. Should the rest of Europe start preparing for Italian default?

Look at the number of seats for Berlusconi + Grillo...it should be enough to have a pretty easy answer.

To which question?

[Keystone Phil]

Good, but sorry, Phil.

I'm actually friends with the guy and since it isn't going to affect anything (isn't counted towards the majority bonus), you can spare me.  

Still early though.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What are the odds of another election before the end of the year? Seems likely with the state in the Senate.

Perfect way to give an absolute majority to Grillo in the senate.

He wouldn't be any worse than quite a few PMs Italy has actually had...

Who exactly would he be better than other than the obvious (Mussolini, Andreotti, Craxi, and Berlusconi)?

You just answered the question.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Anyway, Piemonte Senate final results have come up, and the Left wins by 0.5. So a Senate plurality is now assured.

And we also take Molise (though that's obviously irrelevant...).

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Good, but sorry, Phil.

I'm actually friends with the guy and since it isn't going to affect anything (isn't counted towards the majority bonus), you can spare me. 

Still early though.

In that case I'm genuinely sorry and I hope your friend pulls off a win.

What are the odds of another election before the end of the year? Seems likely with the state in the Senate.

Perfect way to give an absolute majority to Grillo in the senate.

He wouldn't be any worse than quite a few PMs Italy has actually had...

Who exactly would he be better than other than the obvious (Mussolini, Andreotti, Craxi, and Berlusconi)?

You just answered the question.

I guess four could, subjectively, be 'quite a few', and you're right that the fact that it's a nonzero number at all is depressing.

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I can't believe I'm saying this, but thank God for Italy's plurality bonus.

...You can shoot me now.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Interestingly that was actually put in place I believe by Berlusconi, as something that he thought would benefit himself staying in power (which I suppose it has helped him at times, but he lost the election right after it was implemented quite narrowly.)

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

In that case you can shoot, burn, and drown me.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Plenty of other absolutely vile people also served as PM during the Pentapartito era.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The gap is 0.41 with 1000 precincts left.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Sicily, Sardinia, Abruzzo, Marche, and Liguria are or at least are voting (for Camera) like joke regioni.

[njwes]

What explains the Left's excellent showing in Bolzano, so much higher than any province near it?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What explains the Left's excellent showing in Bolzano, so much higher than any province near it?

It doesn't seem like the other coalitions even bothered. No idea why not. And it's not just 'near it'--that's IBC's best province in the country, followed by Florence.

IBC's lead is back up to 0.5% on la Repubblica. This might just pull off a veneer of pseudo-repsectability.

[minionofmidas]

Rovereto PD-SVP 45.1 Troll 23.9 Clown 23.7. The votes are all in for Südtirol-Trentino. Official site doesn't show an equalization mandate, was it abolished? Silvio's coalition narrowly beat Grillo in the regional vote count, so I assume he gets it.

Gorizia Left 35.7 (-7.6) Troll 25.5 Clown 23.4 (-16.6) Right 11.3. Completes FVG. Lead was half a percentage point in the end. PD 4, Five Star 1, PdL 1, Con Monti 1

Isernia Clown 36.8 (-10.3) Left 28.0 (-10.3) Troll 23.2 Right 8.3. The most useless regional result (as Molise will split 1-1 anyways) is still missing due to that one Campobasso precinct. And it's still too close to call with a left lead of 269 (Campobasso is not just more left wing but also a lot larger. Isernia is a very small and thinly inhabited province.)

Foggia Clown 33.9 (-9.7) Left 30.2 (-7.4) Troll 22.8 Right 9.2
Barletta etc pp Clown 37.7 (-14.7) Troll 25.0 Left 23.8 (-7.7) Right 9.7
Bari Clown 33.8 (-15.6) Left 28.4 (-7.1) Troll 25.1 Right 9.0 (wait, did I mention that earlier?). That completes Puglia. For some reason they haven't added the seat count yet. Silvio wins by 6 in the end.

Crotone Clown 32.6 (-8.0) Left 30.6 (-11.8) Troll 23.9 Right 7.7. What. the. hell. Berlusconi actually gains a province. Lmao.

Medio Campidano Left 34.2 (-11.9) Troll 29.1 Clown 22.8 (-15.2) Right 6.1. That completes Sardinia: PD 4, Five Star 2, PdL 1, SEL 1


Still out at the point of this rolling update: 45 precincts in Torino
14 precints in Varese
8 precincts in Como
7 precints in Lecco
50 precincts in Monza - la Brianza
110 precincts in Milan
1 precinct in Lodi
3 precincts in Vicenza
6 precincts in Padova
1 precinct in Treviso
7 precincts in Viterbo
106 precincts in Rome
12 precincts in Frosinone
13 precincts in Latina
1 precinct in Campobasso
10 precincts in Benevento
2 precincts in Naples
5 precincts in Salerno
4 in Crotone
1 in Catanzaro
3 in Vibo
1 in Messina
4 in Catania
9 in Siracusa

[Antonio the Sixth]

The gap is 0.41 with 1000 precincts left.

0.42 with 700 left.

[minionofmidas]

What explains the Left's excellent showing in Bolzano, so much higher than any province near it?

It doesn't seem like the other coalitions even bothered. No idea why not.

It's not as if you'd be left unharmed if you claimed to be "in Italy" across much of the province or anything.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What explains the Left's excellent showing in Bolzano, so much higher than any province near it?

It doesn't seem like the other coalitions even bothered. No idea why not.

It's not as if you'd be left unharmed if you claimed to be "in Italy" across much of the province or anything.

Ah, yes. Südtirol. I assume the 'other' that beat out all the other non-left candidates is some sort of autonomist or nationalist?


Any chance Bersani at least breaks ten million votes?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bolzano is simple, it's SVP country. SVP is allied with the Left, so there you go.

Incidentally, the SVP's showing is higher than the margin between the two coalition. Without it, 340 MPs go to Berlusconi...

[Antonio the Sixth]

The gap is 0.41 with 1000 precincts left.

0.42 with 700 left.

0.4, 600 left.

[minionofmidas]

Torino Left 32.5 (-10.6) Troll 27.3 Clown 25.2 (-16.5) Right 11.4. That completes Piemonte: PD 13, Five Star 3, PdL 3, Con Monti 2, Lega 1

Como Clown 43.2 (-18.6) Left 24.8 (-1.3) Troll 16.7 Right 11.0. Lombardy of course.

Vicenza Clown 34.4 (-21.1) Troll 23.6 Left 22.7 (-6.8) Right 11.5

Messina Left 34.4 (+5.8!) Clown 33.0 (-22.6) Troll 21.4 Right 7.7. Bizarre. Completely bizarre. Messina has no tradition of being the most leftwing part of Sicily. At all.
Catania Clown 38.4 (-26.3) Troll 30.3 Left 22.2 (-1.6) Right 5.2. That's more like it.

Südtirol equalization mandate for Silvio now listed.

Puglian seat distribution: PdL 11, Five Star 4, PD 3, Con Monti 1, SEL 1

Still out at the point of this rolling update: 4 precincts in Varese
3 precincts in Lecco
50 precincts in Monza - la Brianza
42 precincts in Milan
1 precinct in Lodi
4 precincts in Padova
1 precinct in Treviso
7 precincts in Viterbo
83 precincts in Rome
3 precincts in Frosinone
1 precinct in Latina
1 precinct in Campobasso
10 precincts in Benevento
1 precinct in Naples
5 precincts in Salerno
1 in Catanzaro
3 in Vibo
1 in Siracusa

[Keystone Phil]

One indisputable highlight: FdI-CN will be the third center-right party in Parliament, beating La Destra.  

[minionofmidas]

Bolzano is simple, it's SVP country. SVP is allied with the Left, so there you go.

Incidentally, the SVP's showing is higher than the margin between the two coalition. Without it, 340 MPs go to Berlusconi...

I herewith endorse a PD-PdL Grand Coalition under an SVP prime minister.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

wtf Messina?!