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« on: September 30, 2021, 04:49:55 AM »



Big Youngkin momentum!

Yuck. This makes me trust T Mac even less. If a CoC isn't all in for the Republican, something is very amiss in the Democratic party.

Why can't you just accept the Republican Party is alienating people?
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2021, 08:51:58 PM »

I would bet decent money on Youngkin winning. Many NOVA parents of all politics are very upset at the liberal Loudon County School Board covering up a transgender rapist in the girl's bathroom.

Sounds a lot like how Ed Gillespie was going to win because "something something MS13"
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2021, 02:48:14 AM »

The Republican Party stands for the same things in Virginia, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, you name it. Why should Democrats vote for someone who will run down their public services, pander to the racists in their policies, deny women the right to choose, do nothing about climate change, and even try to rig the system so Democrats are unfairly disadvantaged? It's different when in cases like Maryland and Louisiana, the minority party actually tries to reflect the views of their state and avoid the stuff people hate from their party. However, there's no reason for people who didn't support Trump to support Youngkin. Frankly, polarisation isn't a bad thing, people should be consistent and vote their views up and down the ballot. The problem is that the American political system is poorly designed so that it's far too hard for either party to get a fair chance to win full control and then do what they promise.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2021, 02:50:52 PM »

The Republican Party stands for the same things in Virginia, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, you name it. Why should Democrats vote for someone who will run down their public services, pander to the racists in their policies, deny women the right to choose, do nothing about climate change, and even try to rig the system so Democrats are unfairly disadvantaged? It's different when in cases like Maryland and Louisiana, the minority party actually tries to reflect the views of their state and avoid the stuff people hate from their party. However, there's no reason for people who didn't support Trump to support Youngkin. Frankly, polarisation isn't a bad thing, people should be consistent and vote their views up and down the ballot. The problem is that the American political system is poorly designed so that it's far too hard for either party to get a fair chance to win full control and then do what they promise.

That's not a problem; it's the way our system was designed.  It was designed to require major changes to come through CONSENSUS, not through the Tyrrany of the Majority.

As for the upcoming race, I'll say this:  McAuliffe does not have much personal popularity.  He almost lost to Ken Cuccinelli in 2013, and Cuccinelli was given up on by the National GOP.  McAuliffe is a slight fave and he should be, but he's very much vulnerable, and he does not have the kind of personal popularity to overcome a massive GOP wave should there be one.

Whether it's an accident or a choice is besides the point. I know you disagree, but a system of government that produces constant gridlock is worse than one that gets stuff done. The majority has far too little power compared to the minority. Lots of other countries have governments that function a lot better than the US, that actually solve some problems, and so trust is higher.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2021, 03:10:17 PM »

So, question for those of you who are arguing mcauliffe's "parents and education" statement wasn't problematic....why is mcauliffe spending time and resources producing an ad saying it was "taken out of context"?

They know it didn't play well. It probably won't matter, but it didn't help either.

Also....lmfao at a poster above trying to tie youngkin to trump's heartless powell statement.

When you have literally nothing else to run on, you make it all trump trump trump.

the people of va deserve a better campaign.



Politicians are always paranoid, McAuliffe has to run as if he's down by a point but he isn't actually.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2021, 05:44:36 PM »

Lol, even leaving aside whatever this is supposed to be, you don't want to have Rudy Giuliani's endorsement nowadays.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2021, 03:03:31 PM »

Please educate yourself on what happened in Georgia.

This is why so many blue avatars don’t post here anymore.

The excusing away of bad things dems do is just too stinky to handle

There is ZERO evidence that buffet-lover Abrams would have won if not for kemp actions

Lol you just had to take away from your point by insulting Abrams' weight.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2021, 06:08:08 AM »

Saying how traditional and boring Youngkin is misses the point imo  people default to viewing party candidates through the national brand. So Youngkin is tainted by his association with Trump and what the 2021 Republican Party stands for. To get away from that, he doesn't just need to not be like Donald Trump but actually clearly differentiate himself from the national party, and have his own distinctive identity.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2021, 07:16:55 PM »

ALERT

TWITTER USERS ARE REPORTING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY QTRASH for a va poll

REPEAT: QTRASH IS IN THE FIELD

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2021, 07:38:00 PM »

The fact that the democrats in Virginia don’t want parents involved in their kid’s education is horrifying and I hope the voters of Virginia punish them for it

This is just such a bizarre talking point. How do you even dignify crap like this with an argument?



That has to be a fake.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2021, 01:03:28 AM »

For what it is worth, while canvassing in Vienna, VA, a few people did bring up fear of Tmac bringing back pandemic restrictions if Covid cases shoot up again.

Yes yes yes.. Vienna may be wealthy suburbia like most of you all live in.. but a lot of business owners live in Vienna and if you drive the streets of Vienna.. mom and pop and non chain eateries are everywhere.

Oddly.. I did not hear anything about the school board sexual assault but I think that throws Loudoun into single digit.

Virginia's vaccination rate is pretty good, isn't it? Maybe he could do it by county so all those low vaccination Republican areas get what they fear while the Democratic vaccinated areas remain free.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 03:54:24 AM »



Diversity is a good thing. White people of course shouldn't be punished, but clearly something is going wrong there-as in many other areas-and more needs to be done to include minorities.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2021, 05:11:14 PM »

Does anyone have any actual useful information about what is going on?
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2021, 05:41:02 PM »

If I have to guess, I still think McAuliffe wins. It may be narrow, but Virginia is still a highly educated D-trending Biden +10% state. Candidate quality isn't giving either side a major advantage, they're both boring average candidates. The polling does mean I wouldn't be surprised if Youngkin wins though.
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2021, 11:45:34 PM »

At least it looks like Dems have lucked out to stop a Republican HoD majority, right?
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2021, 12:12:47 AM »

You know for all the comparisons Biden gets to Jimmy Carter, at least Jimmy was able to hold the House and Senate in the 1978 midterms. I see little to no chance Biden does the same.

If Biden helps save the planet, that legacy will put whatever Carter's was to shame. Plus, Biden is still most likely to get re-elected, even if 2022 is a wave. The supply crisis and Covid at least should be over by then and the economy booming.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2021, 02:14:52 AM »

I am more confident that VA will remain a Lean D state then ever.

I will write more... in a statement.


Maybe relative to the PV, but it'll be extremely tough for any Republican presidential nominee, and Biden or Harris could easily win in 2024 overall-maybe by more than last year.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2021, 02:52:52 AM »

It'll be interesting to see the final margins for the House special elections too and the state legislative elections. It does look like the environment has turned and is now pointing to a Republican wave. Democrats have only this Congress to do as much good as they can, the trifecta is highly unlikely to be repeated for many years.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2021, 04:27:28 AM »

I'm not sure how much visibility this got, but this is a good example of Youngkin exploiting the inflation issue. It also had a positive message, and probably reminded Virginians of the kind of Republican they used to vote for. If the pandemic comes under control and the global supply chain is sorted, Democrats might do ok, but if it's not they'll almost certainly get crushed.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2021, 03:45:48 AM »

The 3 biggest races of November 2nd 2021 were Virginia, New Jersey and New York City.
The democrats won 2 of them.
The democrats don't need to cry.

Very very bad take
It's better than arguing that this is certifiable proof that there will be an R wave in 2022.

D +10% to R +2% and D+16% to D+ under 5% is a very strong indicator that Democrats would lose Congress if the election were held now, and backs up the stuff we already know that tells us these bare majorities are not going to hold.
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