Election 2018 Open Thread - Part 1

[J. J.]

the conservatives say to an opponent they disagree with, "You're  wrong."   Liberals say to an opponent they disagree with,"You're evil."  It gets bad when the data doesn't even support the liberals.

The American people don't like that.  You can about Trump's tone, but I'm seeing much more of that on the left.

Its delusional even for you to say that Republicans dont call Democrats evil. Have you never heard of the Religious Right?

Even they do not do it at the same level.  Further, they call actions evil, i.e. abortion is evil, but the people that have them are not evil.  Except for the absolute extremist, the Fred Phelps types, you don't have that.

It is easy to say "Trump is wrong about Soros backing the caravan." Instead, we have, "Trump is trying to stoke antisemitism by saying Soros is backing the caravan."

You've gotta be kidding me....you must live in a bubble.    Ever see quotes like this?

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You will note that first person I cited was Menendez.

Eric Trump is reacting to the hatred of his opponents.

[pppolitics]

Should they call the CA-25 race for Hill? She has a comfortable lead and provisionals are only going to expand it.

I know Katie Hill.

...and I don't mean, I met her once.

I mean, I know Katie Hill.

I didn't thought she would win (believed NYT/Sierra poll) and didn't look up the result (for CA-25) until this morning and was like YES!

YES! She will be excellent in congress! I always knew she was going to win.

You had more faith that I did.

[Zaybay]

Its possible all the Ds pull it out through the last ballots, though Gil and Porter arent looking so well. I guess, we just have to wait and see....

[Person Man]

the conservatives say to an opponent they disagree with, "You're  wrong."   Liberals say to an opponent they disagree with,"You're evil."  It gets bad when the data doesn't even support the liberals.

The American people don't like that.  You can about Trump's tone, but I'm seeing much more of that on the left.

Its delusional even for you to say that Republicans dont call Democrats evil. Have you never heard of the Religious Right?

Even they do not do it at the same level.  Further, they call actions evil, i.e. abortion is evil, but the people that have them are not evil.  Except for the absolute extremist, the Fred Phelps types, you don't have that.

It is easy to say "Trump is wrong about Soros backing the caravan." Instead, we have, "Trump is trying to stoke antisemitism by saying Soros is backing the caravan."

You've gotta be kidding me....you must live in a bubble.    Ever see quotes like this?

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You will note that first person I cited was Menendez.

Eric Trump is reacting to the hatred of his opponents.

So it would be better to say "we don't hate Trump, just what he does?"

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Tester's first tweet needs to be to thank the 3rd parties for saving him once again, not his supporters, not anyone else, thank you to the spoiler votes.

[Mr.Phips]

Its possible all the Ds pull it out through the last ballots, though Gil and Porter arent looking so well. I guess, we just have to wait and see....

Gil has a far better chance than Porter given the margins (2k v 6k)

[Tintrlvr]

Matt Rosendale lost the Senate race, and his son Adam Rosendale also lost his race for State Senate. Bad night for the Rosendale family.

[Tintrlvr]

Tester's first tweet needs to be to thank the 3rd parties for saving him once again, not his supporters, not anyone else, thank you to the spoiler votes.

Also, Missoula, Gallatin and Cascade still have a bunch of votes out. Tester could break 50%.

[GeorgiaModerate]

A friendly wager between Ben Kenobi and myself:

If you are confident that R's will gain seats, how about a friendly wager on it?  Specifically, if the D's end up with fewer than 195 total House seats, I'll change my avatar to match your current one until the end of November.  But if they end up with 195 or more, you change your avatar to I-GA for the same period.  Agreed?

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Which is sort of my point, no? Mine at least has polls that reflect the outcome.

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Why not straight up D takes the house you win. D falls short, I win. Simpler, and that's really the crux of the matter, no?

Fair enough.  It's a bet.

Ben, you can change your avatar now.

[Brittain33]

Were Rosendale and Morrisey the only carpetbagger senate candidates, or did any win?

[user12345]

Were Rosendale and Morrisey the only carpetbagger senate candidates, or did any win?

Romney won.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

A friendly wager between Ben Kenobi and myself:

If you are confident that R's will gain seats, how about a friendly wager on it?  Specifically, if the D's end up with fewer than 195 total House seats, I'll change my avatar to match your current one until the end of November.  But if they end up with 195 or more, you change your avatar to I-GA for the same period.  Agreed?

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Which is sort of my point, no? Mine at least has polls that reflect the outcome.

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Why not straight up D takes the house you win. D falls short, I win. Simpler, and that's really the crux of the matter, no?

Fair enough.  It's a bet.

Ben, you can change your avatar now.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Well this aged horribly.

[MT Treasurer]

Rosendale is not a carpetbagger.

[Holmes]

Rosendale is not a carpetbagger.

Not a senator either.

[Alabama_Indy10]

If this were a midterm with Hillary Clinton in the White House, could John James have pulled it out in Michigan?

[Holmes]

If this were a midterm with Hillary Clinton in the White House, could John James have pulled it out in Michigan?

Maybe, actually, but Michigan has produced weird midterm results in the past, like voting for Peters by a landslide in an open race in 2014.

[Sestak]

If this were a midterm with Hillary Clinton in the White House, could John James have pulled it out in Michigan?

Quite possibly.

[MT Treasurer]

Rosendale is not a carpetbagger.

Not a senator either.

That wasn’t his question, though. No one expected Rosendale to win, so it’s kinda a moot point anyway.

[Tender Branson]

Funny thing:

In 2012, the Senate margin of all 33 states was D+12 and Dems gained 2 seats.

Now, the Senate margin in all 35 states is D+15 and Dems lost 3 Senate seats with basically the same people running on the Dem side as in 2012 ...

Dems ahead by 46 million votes to 33 million votes for the Republicans in the Senate.

[KingSweden]

Funny thing:

In 2012, the Senate margin of all 33 states was D+12 and Dems gained 2 seats.

Now, the Senate margin in all 25 states is D+15 and Dems lost 3 Senate seats with basically the same people running on the Dem side as in 2012 ...

That’s polarization for ya.

[lfromnj]

Funny thing:

In 2012, the Senate margin of all 33 states was D+12 and Dems gained 2 seats.

Now, the Senate margin in all 35 states is D+15 and Dems lost 3 Senate seats with basically the same people running on the Dem side as in 2012 ...

Dems ahead by 46 million votes to 33 million votes for the Republicans in the Senate.

What happens if you replace california with the gubernatorial votes and add maybe 5 percent to the dems?

[Skye]

I'm noticing a pollster that performed relatively well: Emerson.

And everyone around here acts like their polls are trash lol.

[pppolitics]

Tester's first tweet needs to be to thank the 3rd parties for saving him once again, not his supporters, not anyone else, thank you to the spoiler votes.

If McSally wins, she needs to thank Angela Green

[lfromnj]

I'm noticing a pollster that performed relatively well: Emerson.

And everyone around here acts like their polls are trash lol.

Emerson is ok its just they are pretty bad early in the cycle because they have too many undecideds.