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« Reply #1450 on: April 14, 2020, 10:24:50 AM »
« edited: April 14, 2020, 10:29:18 AM by Meclazine »

Australian numbers continue to decline. We are looking better than South Korea.

We have definitely benefited from an extended hot summer period into March/April.



Australian Active Cases - Peak was April 3 with 3,491

370 recoveries added to chart.

With International travel out for the rest of the year, we should be ready to rock back into action in June. Scott Morrison will follow Donald Trumps lead for lifting any restrictions. The Australian Prime Minister followed his decisions on the way into the curve.

Will post up USA and Europe tomorrow morning (Australian time).
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« Reply #1451 on: April 14, 2020, 10:58:40 AM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.


Wow. That's an impressive amount of conservative memes and virtue signaling wrapped into such a short post. Congratulations.
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« Reply #1452 on: April 14, 2020, 11:03:50 AM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.

Are you seriously suggesting that Nevada wasn't invited out of dislike for gambling and prostitution?  Grumpy
No one fights for chastity and sexual purity like, uh, Gavin Newsom.
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« Reply #1453 on: April 14, 2020, 11:22:31 AM »



Huh?
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« Reply #1454 on: April 14, 2020, 11:25:10 AM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.

Are you seriously suggesting that Nevada wasn't invited out of dislike for gambling and prostitution?  Grumpy

For several months, the poster argued that the ballot fraud conducted in NC-9 in 2018 was actually done for the benefit of Democrats.
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« Reply #1455 on: April 14, 2020, 11:50:16 AM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.

Are you seriously suggesting that Nevada wasn't invited out of dislike for gambling and prostitution?  Grumpy
They are hypocritical of course. They go to Nevada for gambling and prostitution and quickie divorces and Burning Man and avoiding exorbitant taxes (all wealth belongs to the state). Newsom probably doesn't understand that not everyone can afford to live in Ross.
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« Reply #1456 on: April 14, 2020, 11:51:20 AM »

Starving, angry and cannibalistic: America's rats are getting desperate amid coronavirus pandemic

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« Reply #1457 on: April 14, 2020, 11:58:19 AM »

It’s pretty shocking how high Italy’s death/cases rate remains considering they have now tested a greater proportion of their population than any other large country.  

I though the reason people cited for Germany’s low death rate was that they were testing more and thus uncovering more asymptomatic cases.  But Italy has slightly more per capita test, about 60% more per capita positive cases, and an almost 10x per capita death rate.  
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« Reply #1458 on: April 14, 2020, 12:01:49 PM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.


Wow. That's an impressive amount of conservative memes and virtue signaling wrapped into such a short post. Congratulations.

Look at the virtue signaling when Florida determined that WWF was an essential industry (at the behest of the mayor of Orlando Jerry Demings, who is married to Rep. Val Demings, who has been mentioned as a VP prospect).

Do you think Sisolak is going to be concerned about a key industry? Do you think Kate Brown is going to be concerned? Oregon is the only state that tried to force closure of private schools - you would be truant if you did not attend state schools.
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« Reply #1459 on: April 14, 2020, 12:18:53 PM »



Huh?
This ties in directly to the topic/thread on page 1 about Trump openly announcing he's a dictator, and the 65 second video clip in the OP.
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« Reply #1460 on: April 14, 2020, 12:44:14 PM »


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This week, the $1,200 CARES Act payments Congress approved in response to the coronavirus crisis will begin to appear in Americans’ bank accounts. The funds will be wired to eligible recipients who previously authorized the IRS to post their refunds (or Social Security payments) through direct deposit. This will speed relief far more quickly than having the IRS mail a check, which could take up to five months.

But the money may not make it into the hands of those who need it to pay bills, buy food, or just survive amid mass unemployment and widespread suffering. Individuals might first have to fend off their own bank, which has just been given the power to seize the $1,200 payment and use it to pay off outstanding debt.

Congress did not exempt CARES Act payments from private debt collection, and the Treasury Department has been reluctant to exempt them through its rulemaking authority. This means that individuals could see their payments transferred from their hands into the hands of their creditors, potentially leaving them with nothing.
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« Reply #1461 on: April 14, 2020, 12:45:31 PM »


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This week, the $1,200 CARES Act payments Congress approved in response to the coronavirus crisis will begin to appear in Americans’ bank accounts. The funds will be wired to eligible recipients who previously authorized the IRS to post their refunds (or Social Security payments) through direct deposit. This will speed relief far more quickly than having the IRS mail a check, which could take up to five months.

But the money may not make it into the hands of those who need it to pay bills, buy food, or just survive amid mass unemployment and widespread suffering. Individuals might first have to fend off their own bank, which has just been given the power to seize the $1,200 payment and use it to pay off outstanding debt.

Congress did not exempt CARES Act payments from private debt collection, and the Treasury Department has been reluctant to exempt them through its rulemaking authority. This means that individuals could see their payments transferred from their hands into the hands of their creditors, potentially leaving them with nothing.

FFS!!!
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« Reply #1462 on: April 14, 2020, 12:47:50 PM »


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This week, the $1,200 CARES Act payments Congress approved in response to the coronavirus crisis will begin to appear in Americans’ bank accounts. The funds will be wired to eligible recipients who previously authorized the IRS to post their refunds (or Social Security payments) through direct deposit. This will speed relief far more quickly than having the IRS mail a check, which could take up to five months.

But the money may not make it into the hands of those who need it to pay bills, buy food, or just survive amid mass unemployment and widespread suffering. Individuals might first have to fend off their own bank, which has just been given the power to seize the $1,200 payment and use it to pay off outstanding debt.

Congress did not exempt CARES Act payments from private debt collection, and the Treasury Department has been reluctant to exempt them through its rulemaking authority. This means that individuals could see their payments transferred from their hands into the hands of their creditors, potentially leaving them with nothing.

FFS!!!

At this point, it's increasingly obvious that the massive "stimulus" bill was more of a poison than a medicine, to use that terminology. Riddled with flaws, and doing little to alleviate the structural inequalities which have been exposed by, and exacerbated by, the coronavirus epidemic.
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« Reply #1463 on: April 14, 2020, 01:17:09 PM »

I love how Andrew Cuomo is educating the clown in chief about the constitution and lockdown, starting at about 7:20


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« Reply #1464 on: April 14, 2020, 01:22:27 PM »


This could be an analogy for the white house.
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« Reply #1465 on: April 14, 2020, 01:31:58 PM »


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« Reply #1466 on: April 14, 2020, 01:56:33 PM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.

Are you seriously suggesting that Nevada wasn't invited out of dislike for gambling and prostitution?  Grumpy
They are hypocritical of course. They go to Nevada for gambling and prostitution and quickie divorces and Burning Man and avoiding exorbitant taxes (all wealth belongs to the state). Newsom probably doesn't understand that not everyone can afford to live in Ross.


From bad argument to worse.

Quit while you're behind.
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« Reply #1467 on: April 14, 2020, 01:59:16 PM »

Why was Nevada left out of the West Coast compact? It's a D trifecta that's pretty typically progressive aside from Sisolak. Is it because Sisolak was sluggish in getting started with emergency responses?

Nevada doesn't want California dictating about Las Vegas. Newsom probably hates people moving to Nevada because of high taxes and living costs. There is also a nasty puritanical streak in some progressives.


Wow. That's an impressive amount of conservative memes and virtue signaling wrapped into such a short post. Congratulations.

Look at the virtue signaling when Florida determined that WWF was an essential industry (at the behest of the mayor of Orlando Jerry Demings, who is married to Rep. Val Demings, who has been mentioned as a VP prospect).

Do you think Sisolak is going to be concerned about a key industry? Do you think Kate Brown is going to be concerned? Oregon is the only state that tried to force closure of private schools - you would be truant if you did not attend state schools.

WTF does any of this mean? Seriously, this is as indecipherable a wall of word salad as I've read outside of a Cory Booker post.

If you have any point here Beyond "Democrats bad, because reasons!", it is inscrutable.
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« Reply #1468 on: April 14, 2020, 02:03:15 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2020, 02:20:12 PM by Tintrlvr »

It’s pretty shocking how high Italy’s death/cases rate remains considering they have now tested a greater proportion of their population than any other large country.  

I though the reason people cited for Germany’s low death rate was that they were testing more and thus uncovering more asymptomatic cases.  But Italy has slightly more per capita test, about 60% more per capita positive cases, and an almost 10x per capita death rate.  

Italy *still* has a positive test rate of around 25%. That means that there are a ton of positive cases not being tested in Italy. Italy's actual total infections are at least as high as the reported cases in the U.S.,* i.e., approaching 600,000, but possibly as high as 1 million+.

*U.S. reported cases are of course also an underestimate of total U.S. cases, which are at least 1 million but possibly closer to 2 million.
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« Reply #1469 on: April 14, 2020, 02:04:23 PM »


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This week, the $1,200 CARES Act payments Congress approved in response to the coronavirus crisis will begin to appear in Americans’ bank accounts. The funds will be wired to eligible recipients who previously authorized the IRS to post their refunds (or Social Security payments) through direct deposit. This will speed relief far more quickly than having the IRS mail a check, which could take up to five months.

But the money may not make it into the hands of those who need it to pay bills, buy food, or just survive amid mass unemployment and widespread suffering. Individuals might first have to fend off their own bank, which has just been given the power to seize the $1,200 payment and use it to pay off outstanding debt.

Congress did not exempt CARES Act payments from private debt collection, and the Treasury Department has been reluctant to exempt them through its rulemaking authority. This means that individuals could see their payments transferred from their hands into the hands of their creditors, potentially leaving them with nothing.

FFS!!!

At this point, it's increasingly obvious that the massive "stimulus" bill was more of a poison than a medicine, to use that terminology. Riddled with flaws, and doing little to alleviate the structural inequalities which have been exposed by, and exacerbated by, the coronavirus epidemic.

That's a bit harsh , but it should surprise no one that yet again the Trump Administration exercises complete reverse Midas Touch for anything at handles. I was initially going to lambaste Congress for not including such provisions, but that report indicates that this could be handled quickly by the treasury Department if it wasn't run by Trump heads and the GOP donor base who think of the poor Banks and credit card companies before consumers actually needing such an immediate relief. People like Wilbur Ross and Steven mnuchin Define plutocratic abuse combined with colossal mismanagement embodied by this Administration.

The only actual Trump derangement syndrome in this country are from the 40 to 45% of voters who are effectively cultists who can't understand that, yes, Trump screws up so massively and so consistently that he really truly deserves every bit of the negative press and criticism he gets, but deny that he and his are doing anything wrong nevertheless.
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« Reply #1470 on: April 14, 2020, 02:17:30 PM »



Italy *still* has a positive test rate of around 25%. That means that there are a ton of positive cases not being tested in Italy. Italy's actual total infections are at least as high as the reported cases in the U.S.,* i.e., approaching 600,000, but possibly as high as 1 million+.


Also if i'm agree there are tons of positives not tested, your positive test rate for Italy is wrong
positive test rate
14th April tests 26,779, positives 2,972, rate 11%
13th April tests 36,717, positives 3,153, rate 9%
12th April tests 46,720, positives 4,092, rate 9%
11th April tests 56,609, positives 4,694, rate 8%
10th April tests 53,495, positives 3,951, rate 7%
9th  April tests 46,244, positives 4,204 , rate 9%
8th April  tests 51,670, positives 3,836, rate 7%
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« Reply #1471 on: April 14, 2020, 02:19:23 PM »

Johns Hopkins has the US at 24,737 deaths (last updated at 2:10 Eastern). It looks like we'll hit 25,000 dead today. Another sad milestone.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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« Reply #1472 on: April 14, 2020, 02:19:44 PM »



Italy *still* has a positive test rate of around 25%. That means that there are a ton of positive cases not being tested in Italy. Italy's actual total infections are at least as high as the reported cases in the U.S.,* i.e., approaching 600,000, but possibly as high as 1 million+.


Also if i'm agree there are tons of positives not tested, your positive test rate for Italy is wrong
positive test rate
14th April tests 26,779, positives 2,972, rate 11%
13th April tests 36,717, positives 3,153, rate 9%
12th April tests 46,720, positives 4,092, rate 9%
11th April tests 56,609, positives 4,694, rate 8%
10th April tests 53,495, positives 3,951, rate 7%
9th  April tests 46,244, positives 4,204 , rate 9%
8th April  tests 51,670, positives 3,836, rate 7%

Maybe I saw something outdated - apologies.
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« Reply #1473 on: April 14, 2020, 02:40:07 PM »

Johns Hopkins has the US at 24,737 deaths (last updated at 2:10 Eastern). It looks like we'll hit 25,000 dead today. Another sad milestone.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Do you count the dead for every illness, too? Weird hobby.
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« Reply #1474 on: April 14, 2020, 02:55:38 PM »



Italy *still* has a positive test rate of around 25%. That means that there are a ton of positive cases not being tested in Italy. Italy's actual total infections are at least as high as the reported cases in the U.S.,* i.e., approaching 600,000, but possibly as high as 1 million+.


Also if i'm agree there are tons of positives not tested, your positive test rate for Italy is wrong
positive test rate
14th April tests 26,779, positives 2,972, rate 11%
13th April tests 36,717, positives 3,153, rate 9%
12th April tests 46,720, positives 4,092, rate 9%
11th April tests 56,609, positives 4,694, rate 8%
10th April tests 53,495, positives 3,951, rate 7%
9th  April tests 46,244, positives 4,204 , rate 9%
8th April  tests 51,670, positives 3,836, rate 7%

Why is their testing rate dropping?
I’d think Italy of all places would want to ramp up efforts to test everyone. 
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