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« on: January 11, 2018, 05:15:34 PM »
« edited: January 11, 2018, 05:18:45 PM by LimoLiberal »

https://t.co/Vu32RBhJoJ

Our racist president, folks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 05:16:29 PM »

Link is broken, but I just read about it on HuffPo.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 05:18:28 PM »

I don't see what the big deal is. Some parts of Africa are not places you want to live. Even some parts of the U.S. are horrible. Stop overprojecting. He slightly has a point. Everywhere has crapholes.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 05:19:46 PM »

I don't see what the big deal is. Some parts of Africa are not places you want to live. Even some parts of the U.S. are horrible. Stop overprojecting. He slightly has a point. Everywhere has crapholes.

Of course someone from New Jersey would say that.
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2018, 05:24:04 PM »

I don't see what the big deal is. Some parts of Africa are not places you want to live. Even some parts of the U.S. are horrible. Stop overprojecting. He slightly has a point. Everywhere has crapholes.

Of course someone from New Jersey would say that.
They are crapholes all over the world. Look at some parts of rural Tennessee.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 05:31:25 PM »

I don't see what the big deal is. Some parts of Africa are not places you want to live. Even some parts of the U.S. are horrible. Stop overprojecting. He slightly has a point. Everywhere has crapholes.

Of course someone from New Jersey would say that.
They are crapholes all over the world. Look at some parts of rural Tennessee.

What did rural Tennessee ever do to you?
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 05:35:12 PM »

True part of what he said: Some of these countries are sh*tholes. We should be cautious about taking poor, uneducated immigrants from these countries.

Problematic part: Calling entire countries sh*tholes, rejecting all immigrants from them. Offering an example of a white country (Norway) in contrast to black countries (Haiti and Africa).

Is it racist? Well, he's essentially arguing against the diversity visa lottery program because it takes in poor, third-world immigrants. That's sort of racist, but it depends on whether he has non-economic concerns about these people.

Also, it's very hypocritical and ignorant of people to criticize the US taking poor, uneducated immigrants. The entire 19th century of the US was a history of the US taking poor, uneducated immigrants from all over Europe, Asia, and Africa (mostly Europe at the time). People disliked it then, but then a couple decades went by and those poor immigrants became middle class and assimilated, and then those people took their turn to criticize the new arrivals. Frankly this country should take immigrant from "sh*thole" countries, but let's be smart and honest about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2018, 05:39:50 PM »

This is racist talk. It is difficult, if not impossible, to backtrack from this hateful statement.

Our President may be showing even more signs of going unhinged.   
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2018, 05:42:19 PM »
« Edited: January 11, 2018, 05:45:06 PM by Fuzzy Bear »

If Trump had used the term "failed states", would he be wrong?

These countries are awful places with folks unable to be self sufficient. The people there have tragic plights, but it is not the responsibility of the USA to mitigate this with mass immigration.  And if we choose to help them in their own countries, I don't want to hear about "Yankee Imperialism"
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2018, 05:42:27 PM »

The U.S. should not take any new poor immigrants, unless the government is able to do two things: Create jobs (as in TVA), and fix the automation problem by rewarding companies that hire people instead of using machines. Our current system of capitalist exploitation is only going to continue to screw over poor people more and more.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 05:44:07 PM »

It was a dumb and offensive thing to say. That being said, cue the faux outrage from red avatars here who have made dozens of jokes about Oklahoma...
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 05:46:15 PM »

The U.S. should not take any new poor immigrants, unless the government is able to do two things: Create jobs (as in TVA), and fix the automation problem by rewarding companies that hire people instead of using machines. Our current system of capitalist exploitation is only going to continue to screw over poor people more and more.
I concur.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 05:55:56 PM »

I think Trump made it pretty clear that only whites are welcome to the US of A.
How long till he advocates the reinstatement of Jim Crow?
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 05:56:16 PM »

Nothing wrong with this.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 05:59:19 PM »

Yeah, I normally laugh at Trump's nonsense. But this actually infuriates me. Most of these African immigrants are usually highly educated and come here and are positive contributors to our society.

For Donald ****ing Trump, who has always been worthless and a waste of oxygen and life, to question why they should be here is ludicrous.

**** this guy, I would pay to go to his funeral.

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 05:59:31 PM »

I think Trump made it pretty clear that only whites are welcome to the US of A.
How long till he advocates the reinstatement of Jim Crow?

You honestly think Trump would have some huge qualm with a Japanese lawyer or Brazilian doctor coming to the United States?
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 06:00:09 PM »

The U.S. should not take any new poor immigrants, unless the government is able to do two things: Create jobs (as in TVA), and fix the automation problem by rewarding companies that hire people instead of using machines. Our current system of capitalist exploitation is only going to continue to screw over poor people more and more.

Would you mind explaining how automation, a process whereby humans are no longer needed to do menial, repetitive tasks and are thus freed to perform higher-functioning jobs, is a problem?
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 06:02:47 PM »

Our white supremacist president is becoming even less subtle as the days go on. First it's "African huts" and "Haitians with AIDS." Now Haiti and El Salvador are "s**thole counties" and we should instead take in immigrants from Norway. If you fail to see the subtext here, then you ought to remove the fingers from your ears.

I think Trump made it pretty clear that only whites are welcome to the US of A.
How long till he advocates the reinstatement of Jim Crow?

That's what the "voter fraud" dogwhistle meant.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2018, 06:07:42 PM »

People who were outraged by "deplorables" are rushing to say that calling Haiti and African countries "sh**tholes" is totally not racist or anything
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 06:08:24 PM »

People who were outraged by "deplorables" are rushing to say that calling Haiti and African countries "sh**tholes" is totally not racist or anything

Not surprise.

These people are not on the level.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2018, 06:09:04 PM »

No, Mr. President, YOU are the sh**thole.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2018, 06:09:20 PM »

I think Trump made it pretty clear that only whites are welcome to the US of A.
How long till he advocates the reinstatement of Jim Crow?

You honestly think Trump would have some huge qualm with a Japanese lawyer or Brazilian doctor coming to the United States?

Yes, I really do.  Maybe not a Japanese one, but certainly a Brazilian doctor or lawyer.  So would the majority of Republicans, for that matter.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2018, 06:10:48 PM »

I think Trump made it pretty clear that only whites are welcome to the US of A.
How long till he advocates the reinstatement of Jim Crow?

You honestly think Trump would have some huge qualm with a Japanese lawyer or Brazilian doctor coming to the United States?
Yes he would how many comments like these does take to continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a racist, if he cared what jobs non-white immigrants had or there education attainment then he wouldn't have rescinded DACA.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2018, 06:10:48 PM »

 Trump, I'm completely done with him.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2018, 06:11:04 PM »

Considering that Norway has a higher standard of living than the United States and is more democratic it makes zero sense why anyone from there would want to come here. Moving to the United States would be a step down.
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