Wyoming Caucus(D) Results.

[True Democrat]

65% reporting

Obama: 58%
Clinton: 41%

[Person Man]

Cody and Pinedale went for Obamah. I ski in Pinedale and Al Simpson and his family live in Cody.

[Meeker]

I don't think turnout varying by regions should matter in the overall state count though, as the delegate totals were predetermined

[Verily]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant. (Obama would be leading substantially even if Albany County didn't exist.)

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

[MasterJedi]

Obama's winning big, surprise surprise!

[Person Man]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant.

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

Yeak that's right.  You will get similiar voting in Fremont and more Obamania in Teton.

[8 out of 11 is not deserved]

70%

Obama 58%
Clinton  41%

[Verily]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant.

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

Yeak that's right.  You will get similiar voting in Fremont and more Obamania in Teton.

Fremont I'm not sure about because of the Reservations. Turnout will be dismal among Natives, of course, but they're still 20% of a 65%-GOP county, so at least 20% of the Democratic electorate even with poor turnout.

The rest of Fremont is much more farms than mines; I looked it up. That explains why Sweetwater has a Democratic history while Fremont does not: the farmers have all been Republicans, but the miners are recent converts. And if Obama is the Democratic candidate, we may see a reversal of history with Republican miners and Democratic farmers.

[Kushahontas]

god how long does it take to count all 5 votes?

[Verily]

god how long does it take to count all 5 votes?

Some of the caucuses haven't started yet. The only county that's really taking a long time is Laramie.

[Person Man]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant.

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

Yeak that's right.  You will get similiar voting in Fremont and more Obamania in Teton.

Fremont I'm not sure about because of the Reservations. Turnout will be dismal among Natives, of course, but they're still 20% of a 65%-GOP county, so at least 20% of the Democratic electorate even with poor turnout.

The rest of Fremont is much more farms than mines; I looked it up. That explains why Sweetwater has a Democratic history while Fremont does not: the farmers have all been Republicans, but the miners are recent converts.

The farmers I used to go to school with were uneducated and pretty wealthy. Though, I don't understand why miners would be democrats. Then again, Wyoming could get close to 40 if Obama wins and the new green collar workers (solar and wind miners) turnout. I surprised that Rawlins didn't go more for Hilldawg.

[exopolitician]

Oddly my predictions is holding up...kinda. I dont want it too though...Obama's numbers need to be BIGGER pls.

[Person Man]

don't worry the last few big counties should be for Obama.

[Verily]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant.

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

Yeak that's right.  You will get similiar voting in Fremont and more Obamania in Teton.

Fremont I'm not sure about because of the Reservations. Turnout will be dismal among Natives, of course, but they're still 20% of a 65%-GOP county, so at least 20% of the Democratic electorate even with poor turnout.

The rest of Fremont is much more farms than mines; I looked it up. That explains why Sweetwater has a Democratic history while Fremont does not: the farmers have all been Republicans, but the miners are recent converts.

The farmers I used to go to school with were uneducated and pretty wealthy. Though, I don't understand why miners would be democrats. Then again, Wyoming could get close to 40 if Obama wins and the new green collar workers (solar and wind miners) turnout. I surprised that Rawlins didn't go more for Hilldawg.

I always assumed the reasoning had to do with local politics as much as anything else. Farmers were much more tied to a specific location and tended to dislike the rowdy miners who upset their solitude. Farmers have been Republicans in the West forever, stretching back to the socially liberal era for the Republicans (thus Wyoming was the first state to give women the right to vote). Miners, feeling somewhat exiled by the farmers (and also generally poorer in the past) turned to the more populist Democratic Party. And the pattern never really changed across elections, just the demographics as the mines rose and then fell. And then the death of the socially conservative wing of the Democrats drove the western miners out and to the Republicans.

[8 out of 11 is not deserved]

74% in

Obama 58%
Clinton 41%

[Meeker]

Only county outstanding currently (the other ones just started) is Laramie.

[True Democrat]

Carbon County is 53-47 for Clinton.

[Democratic Hawk]

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WY

Thus far:

Obama 2725 (58%) / Clinton 1933 (41%) / Uncommitted 42(1%)

Counties [Obama] by margin:

Albany: Obama 969 (74%) / Clinton 328 (25%) / Uncommitted 11 (1%)
Uinta: Obama 123 (73%) / Clinton 45 (27%)
Park: Obama 209 (63%) / Clinton 124 (37%)
Sublette: Obama 48 (61%) / Clinton 27 (35%) / Uncommitted 3 (4%)
Campbell: Obama 112 (61%) / Clinton 68 (37%) / Uncommitted 1 (1%)
Lincoln: Obama 81 (60%) / Clinton 53 (39%) / Uncommitted 2 (1%)
Washake: Obama 58 (59%) / Clinton 40 (41%)
Hotsprings: Obama 31 (48%) / Clinton 22 (34%) / Uncommitted 11 (17%)
Natrona: Obama 468 (50%) / Clinton 461 (49%) / Uncommitted 13 (1%)

Counties [Tied]/color]

Crook: Clinton 31 (50%) / Obama 31 (50%)
Niobrara: Clinton 10 (50%) / Obama 10 (50%)

Counties [Clinton] by margin:

Goshen: Clinton 108 (53%) / Obama 96 (47%)
Carbon: Clinton 114 (53%) / Obama (43%)
Platte: Clinton 89 (51%) / Obama 84 (49%)
Sweetwater: Clinton 342 (57%) / Obama 254 (47%)
Converse: Clinton 71 (58%) / Obama 48 (39%)

[Verily]

Fremont's results are not that surprising. I wish i knew how the Natives voted, though I suspect they voted for Clinton (thus the smaller Obama victory than in otherwise similar Park and Sublette).

[Verily]

Carbon County is 53-47 for Clinton.

That was a while ago, I thought.

[War on Want]

Michael Barone's analysis on Fox News was that almost all of Obama's lead is due to Albany County and the University turnout.  Hillary did well in Sweetwater but not lots of enthusiasm and turnout

In the end, turnout in counties doesn't matter as they are electing delegates to the state convention, which are fixed. However, they're just plain wrong on that analysis, so it's irrelevant.

The new counties are Park and Lincoln. Lincoln is all farmers; Park probably has some Yellowstone-related people (but most are in Teton) and the rest, at least two-thirds of the voters, farmers.

Yeak that's right.  You will get similiar voting in Fremont and more Obamania in Teton.

Fremont I'm not sure about because of the Reservations. Turnout will be dismal among Natives, of course, but they're still 20% of a 65%-GOP county, so at least 20% of the Democratic electorate even with poor turnout.

The rest of Fremont is much more farms than mines; I looked it up. That explains why Sweetwater has a Democratic history while Fremont does not: the farmers have all been Republicans, but the miners are recent converts.

The farmers I used to go to school with were uneducated and pretty wealthy. Though, I don't understand why miners would be democrats. Then again, Wyoming could get close to 40 if Obama wins and the new green collar workers (solar and wind miners) turnout. I surprised that Rawlins didn't go more for Hilldawg.

I always assumed the reasoning had to do with local politics as much as anything else. Farmers were much more tied to a specific location and tended to dislike the rowdy miners who upset their solitude. Farmers have been Republicans in the West forever, stretching back to the socially liberal era for the Republicans (thus Wyoming was the first state to give women the right to vote). Miners, feeling somewhat exiled by the farmers (and also generally poorer in the past) turned to the more populist Democratic Party. And the pattern never really changed across elections, just the demographics as the mines rose and then fell. And then the death of the socially conservative wing of the Democrats drove the western miners out and to the Republicans.

Very true. Miners have also been radical in the past(Socialism and Progressivism anyone?), while Farmers have largely been Centrist. This also set them apart. Now miners vote Republican, but it would surprise me if Farmers voted for Democrats in larger margins than Miners this time around, because of the Democrats new found Centrist Liberalism with Obama.

[Person Man]

Fremont makes sense. Also, Riverton's dems (if they were any) went to HillDawg.

[8 out of 11 is not deserved]

78% in

Obama 59%
Clinton 40%

[Meeker]

Laramie just reported, 62-38 Obama.

Delegate split will be 7 Obama, 5 Clinton. That's all folks!

[Democratic Hawk]

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#WY

Thus far:

Obama 3060 (58%) / Clinton 2168 (41%) / Uncommitted 64(1%)

Counties [Obama] by margin:

Albany: Obama 969 (74%) / Clinton 328 (25%) / Uncommitted 11 (1%)
Uinta: Obama 123 (73%) / Clinton 45 (27%)
Park: Obama 209 (63%) / Clinton 124 (37%)
Sublette: Obama 48 (61%) / Clinton 27 (35%) / Uncommitted 3 (4%)
Campbell: Obama 112 (61%) / Clinton 68 (37%) / Uncommitted 1 (1%)
Lincoln: Obama 81 (60%) / Clinton 53 (39%) / Uncommitted 2 (1%)
Washake: Obama 58 (59%) / Clinton 40 (41%)
Fremont: Obama 335 (56%) / Clinton 235 (40%) / Uncommitted 22 (4%)
Hotsprings: Obama 31 (48%) / Clinton 22 (34%) / Uncommitted 11 (17%)
Natrona: Obama 468 (50%) / Clinton 461 (49%) / Uncommitted 13 (1%)

Counties [Tied]/color]

Crook: Clinton 31 (50%) / Obama 31 (50%)
Niobrara: Clinton 10 (50%) / Obama 10 (50%)

Counties [Clinton] by margin:

Goshen: Clinton 108 (53%) / Obama 96 (47%)
Carbon: Clinton 114 (53%) / Obama (43%)
Platte: Clinton 89 (51%) / Obama 84 (49%)
Sweetwater: Clinton 342 (57%) / Obama 254 (47%)
Converse: Clinton 71 (58%) / Obama 48 (39%)