2012 NDP leadership convention

[RogueBeaver]

Another feather in Topp's cap, one of the most promising freshmen endorsing him.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/star-quebec-rookie-to-endorse-topp-for-ndp-leader/article2191774/

Mulcair: He's a brawler, while his Quebec rivals (Bernier and Trudeau) are both happy warriors. A contrast, not a comparison, but I can't think of any Mulcair analogue temperament wise ATM.

[RogueBeaver]

I wonder which prominenti will back Mulcair. Then again, Layton had no support in caucus when he won...

[Verily]

Another feather in Topp's cap, one of the most promising freshmen endorsing him.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/star-quebec-rookie-to-endorse-topp-for-ndp-leader/article2191774/

Mulcair: He's a brawler, while his Quebec rivals (Bernier and Trudeau) are both happy warriors. A contrast, not a comparison, but I can't think of any Mulcair analogue temperament wise ATM.

Boulerice is one of the MPs who caused minor controversy before the election by being party to some sort of strongly separatist declaration, no? Might that be a point of tension between the former QLP Mulcair and many of the new Quebec NDP MPs?

[RogueBeaver]

Another feather in Topp's cap, one of the most promising freshmen endorsing him.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/star-quebec-rookie-to-endorse-topp-for-ndp-leader/article2191774/

Mulcair: He's a brawler, while his Quebec rivals (Bernier and Trudeau) are both happy warriors. A contrast, not a comparison, but I can't think of any Mulcair analogue temperament wise ATM.

Boulerice is one of the MPs who caused minor controversy before the election by being party to some sort of strongly separatist declaration, no? Might that be a point of tension between the former QLP Mulcair and many of the new Quebec NDP MPs?

He's the mentor to the entire frosh class, especially the younger ones. Ironically, while Mulcair is now a leading member of the Sherbrooke Declaration's party, in the PLQ he was a Trudeauvian federalist. Plus que sa change...

[RogueBeaver]

Mulcair's jumping in Thursday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lysiane-gagnon/is-mulcair-over-the-ndps-topp/article2194993/

[RogueBeaver]

Agreed 100%. Never thought I'd see the day where Mulcair was an underdog, but this is a strange year in federal politics.

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2011/10/10/topp%E2%80%99s-ndp-leadership-bid-risks-becoming-%E2%80%98an-elite-juggernaut%E2%80%99-nanos/28420?page_requested=1

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I wonder which prominenti will back Mulcair. Then again, Layton had no support in caucus when he won...

Layton had support of 2/13ths of caucus. That'd be 16 mp's with the current number of MPs.

[Peter the Lefty]

Any chance of someone hardly known, like Fin Donnelly (please tell me he's bilingual), Pierre Nantel, Paulina Ayala, Jamie Nicholls, or, someone else who's also a relative unknown, who might enter?  Someone who's not very well known, like Jack Layton in 2003.  Because frankly, none of the candidates seem to me like they could really be a good face of the party, since when I decided I liked Dewar the best, I don't think I'd really fully grasped the importance of being bilingual in Canada, especially the NDP.  Topp seems like someone with absolutely no charisma at all, and Mulcair's temper seems like it would easily turn off many voters.  Dewar isn't bilingual, enough said.  Martin Singh seems too pro-business, and I think Saganash's sovereigntist roots would scare away the Anglos.  I could see myself getting behind Nathan Cullen, but I also hope newer, fresher faces enter.  Any possibilities?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The NDP really needs a federalist woman who is locally popular in Montreal or Quebec City.

Sadly, there are none.

[RogueBeaver]

They have a federalist man who's popular in both cities.

[Holmes]

I'm looking to support Cullen or Dewar. So this might be the first time someone I vote for doesn't win.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

They have a federalist man who's popular in both cities.

An unknown?

[RogueBeaver]

They have a federalist man who's popular in both cities.

An unknown?

Polls show Mulcair leading Topp, so it seems his name recognition is more substantial in ROC. Personally I think it'll come down to whether the NDP wants a massive culture shock or someone with electoral experience. All the past NDP leaders have been happy warriors, not brawlers. Certainly that was a major part of Layton's appeal here in May- le bon Jack.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Mulcair is, across Canada, Mulcair.
Topp is, thanks to the media, Topp.

In 2003, Blaikie was Blaikie, Nystrom was Nystrom, Comartin was Comartin, and Layton was "who is this guy", as he was only known in Toronto.

The NDP would need another "who is this guy", and the best person to be that guy is someone from Montreal or Quebec City.

[Peter the Lefty]

Mulcair is, across Canada, Mulcair.
Topp is, thanks to the media, Topp.

In 2003, Blaikie was Blaikie, Nystrom was Nystrom, Comartin was Comartin, and Layton was "who is this guy", as he was only known in Toronto.

The NDP would need another "who is this guy", and the best person to be that guy is someone from Montreal or Quebec City.

Montreal has its own municipal parties, correct?  I guess Projet Montreal would probably be the Montreal municipal equivalent of the NDP, so I guess if they could have a city councilor from that party suddenly join the NDP and run for the leadership-though they'd be unlikely to win, unless Ed Broadbent were to withdraw his endorsement of Topp in favor of them.  Or perhaps a relatively unknown rookie Quebec MP-that is, one with at least a bit of experience who doesn't have any ties to the sovereigntists.  A tall order, I realize.

[RogueBeaver]

Projet Montreal is run by a far-left Truther, FYI. Topp is unknown outside NDP circles, so if everyone's so keen on having a leader with a low profile, he's your best bet.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I've looked, at former Mayors, candidates, current Councillors, and could not find anyone.

[Хahar 🤔]

Trying to relate municipal parties to real parties is a futile endeavor. They exist solely to gain power.

[RogueBeaver]

Somehow I doubt Blairism will go over well with the base, if June's socialist brouhaha is anything to go by.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-aims-for-centre-in-ndp-leadership-bid/article2199462/

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/fiscal-prudence-growth-beyond-unions-key-to-mulcairs-ndp-plans/article2199751/

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Eh, they were more than fine with it when articulated by Layton in the Spring.

[MaxQue]

I'm surprised.

Mulcair got the support of people outside Quebec.

The new leader of NDP-New Brunswick and Lorne Nystrom, which ran in 2003.

In other news, I just discovered than Saganash was endorsed last month by the other MP for Abitibi (Abitibi-Témiscamingue).

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Mulcair is still ahead IMO

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[RogueBeaver]

I don't see how Mulcair is anything but behind Topp right now.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

He has 33 MP's. If I can find out which ones I'll map it.