2024 Third Party and Independent Candidate General discussion

[wbrocks67]

Zogby's poll for Kennedy:

Arizona: Trump 51, Biden 40
Georgia: Trump 47, Biden 44
Iowa: Trump 47, Biden 45
Maine: Trump 46, Biden 45
Michigan: Biden 48, Trump 45
Minnesota: Biden 46, Trump 44
Nevada: Trump 50, Biden 44
New Hampshire: Biden 48, Trump 44
North Carolina: Trump 49, Biden 45
Ohio: Trump 52, Biden 42
Pennsylvania: Biden 50, Trump 45
Texas: Trump 50, Biden 40
Wisconsin: Trump 48, Biden 46
Virginia: Trump 45, Biden 45

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/joinkennedy/pages/12577/attachments/original/1714538442/John_Zogby_Strategies_50-State_Survey_of_Likely_Voters_State_Toplines.pdf?1714538442

LOL at Biden still winning PA and Michigan here

[wbrocks67]

Possibly the most insane result in that Zogby poll is either Trump only winning Arkanas by 6 (48-42) or Biden only winning NY by 6 (48-42)

Don't look now but Biden is close to winning Utah!! (46-43) lol

[wbrocks67]

OMG they're citing TMZ now lol, this is not a real campaign

https://twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1785726527121834441

[MR DARK BRANDON]

Possibly the most insane result in that Zogby poll is either Trump only winning Arkanas by 6 (48-42) or Biden only winning NY by 6 (48-42)

Don't look now but Biden is close to winning Utah!! (46-43) lol

Or how Kansas, Iowa Utah and Missouri are all to the left of Nevada

[President Johnson]

I thought projection is the key competence of Trump and Republicans. But well, this weirdo mostly talks like a Republican, so it's not that surprising.

[Steve from Lambeth]

I would dress like that if I were a woman. That is the real story here.

Edit to add that I'd probably get my hair done like that and wear glasses like that too - although not definitely, given that all of the alternatives are tempting in themselves. (Not like I have faulty vision IRL.) I would, however, much rather be doing a presentation on a TRUMP stage...

[Holmes]

I'd rather go with the Dem winning Pennsylvania over the other guy who's losing it and whose victory rests on winning Utah.

[Redban]

Kennedy at his speech today claims he has the signatures for NY, but he wants at least double the 45k requirement (to have a cushion in case signatures get DQ'd)

https://twitter.com/AmValues2024/status/1785720345447559219

[Redban]

So I think his 1PM speech is over ... he had claimed he had major announcement, rumored to be an announcement that he made the ballot in Texas and two other states.

Instead, his major announcement turns out to be a challenge for Biden to take a "no-spoiler" pledge. His suggestion is that both he and Biden commission a poll in mid-October, and whomever performs weaker against Trump head-to-head must drop out.

I think this "major announcement" is a letdown. Nothing is wrong with coming out with this "no-pledge" idea (which Biden would never agree to anyways), but I feel he shouldn't have hyped up the event as "major announcement" for it

[ClassicElectionEnthusiast]

Kennedy must be living in the Land of Make-Believe if he thinks he has any shot (even without Biden in the race) of winning Utah.

[MichaelM24]

There's also the problem that it feeds into the whole "spolier" bs.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

Even if Trump is punished by the courts, he will still run.

[RI]

RFK is the real MVP for commissioning a 50-state poll and then releasing the results.

[Progressive Pessimist]

So, Kennedy was behind this ordeal? Makes sense.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

So I think his 1PM speech is over ... he had claimed he had major announcement, rumored to be an announcement that he made the ballot in Texas and two other states.

Instead, his major announcement turns out to be a challenge for Biden to take a "no-spoiler" pledge. His suggestion is that both he and Biden commission a poll in mid-October, and whomever performs weaker against Trump head-to-head must drop out.

I think this "major announcement" is a letdown. Nothing is wrong with coming out with this "no-pledge" idea (which Biden would never agree to anyways), but I feel he shouldn't have hyped up the event as "major announcement" for it

I'm surprised nobody has even noticed this, and it's a bit of an embarrassing gaffe for the campaign:

By the halfway point of October, 16 States would already have printed their ballots and started early voting. Even if the 0/100 chance happened that Biden agreed to this and lost; Biden would likely still be on the ballot in all of those states lmao.

[Redban]

Trump is raising the attacks on Kennedy

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

RFK is the real MVP for commissioning a 50-state poll and then releasing the results.

It’s like a monkey paw for Atlas. We wanted a 50 state poll and we got that mess.

[AltWorlder]

https://twitter.com/gadflypod/status/1784017434367643832

Dang, Chase Oliver's campaign has a lot less money than I expected.

Also who the heck is Johnny Buss lol

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/gadflypod/status/1784017434367643832

Dang, Chase Oliver's campaign has a lot less money than I expected.

Also who the heck is Johnny Buss lol

Family member of the LA Lakers owning-Buss family.

[Canis]

https://twitter.com/cnstitutionprty/status/1784748340564914287?t=ssWoi3p8eUGrZzn...
The constitution party nominated Randall Terry, wonder if he'll get the vote of pro lifers upset about trump leaving it to the states like extreme republican

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

RFK Jr is so unpopular, even RFK Jr is going after him:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1786580640395137503

[Progressive Pessimist]

RFK Jr is so unpopular, even RFK Jr is going after him:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1786580640395137503

Is this supposed to be like a Jimmy Kimmel mean tweets segment?

[Harlow]

RFK Jr is so unpopular, even RFK Jr is going after him:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1786580640395137503

Is this supposed to be like a Jimmy Kimmel mean tweets segment?

It's clearly supposed to be a populist "the establishment is pressed about me because they're terrified of my big brain ideas" appeal

[Progressive Pessimist]

RFK Jr is so unpopular, even RFK Jr is going after him:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1786580640395137503

Is this supposed to be like a Jimmy Kimmel mean tweets segment?

It's clearly supposed to be a populist "the establishment is pressed about me because they're terrified of my big brain ideas" appeal

Right, that would make sense.

[ClassicElectionEnthusiast]

https://twitter.com/cnstitutionprty/status/1784748340564914287?t=ssWoi3p8eUGrZzn...
The constitution party nominated Randall Terry, wonder if he'll get the vote of pro lifers upset about trump leaving it to the states like extreme republican

As small as the Constitution Party is; Terry's impact will probably be extremely minimal if for no other reason few people who aren't die-hard politicos know that party exists.