The Chronicle of the Death of the Atlasian Right (VERY VERY VERY DEAD!)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

February 2015

President: Labor Landslide 54%-31%. Fed ticket in third place!

Regional Seats: 4 Left, 1 Center 0 Fed
At-Large Seats: 4 Left 1 Center 0 Fed

NE: Battled between Labor and center left TPP
Mideast: Labor dominated with DR toehold in the Assembly, DR Governor. 1 Federalist Assemblyman
Midwest: Labor dominated up and down the ballot.
Pacific: TPP cesspool where the two biggest TPPers hated each other and bickered openly in public.
South: Toppled by a TPP coup.


Feds held 4 offices, three of which were appointed (Deputy GM, IDS Judicial Overlord, Supreme Court Justice)

Now lets have a little straight talk. Consolidation means that the 3 regions have a larger population and thus easier for Conservatives to struggle head to head against left wing candidates. It also means that all the regions are more sensitive to surges in left wing registration, whereas previously you always had one region or two where the left was weak. This happened a year ago, when everyone was crowing about Dead Labor, Labor controlled ALL 3 Regions, had a majority in the House and Senate.

The only difference was DFW was President, elected by running on a centrist platform.

The simple fact is every two years the left gets a windfall as energized posters join the Atlas, they register and vote and the left gets a boost. Internet demographics is a left leaning crowd, always been that way.

Post 2008: Recruitment by bgwah begins 2 years of JCP dominance
Post 2010: Massive Recruitment by Napoleon secures NE for JCP by summer 2011 and with it national elections again.
Post 2012: Massive Recruitment by Adam propels Labor over the Liberals by summer 2013
Post 2014: Results see early 2015 above
Post 2016: Blair's Recruitment drive gives them a +30 advantage, allowing them to win all three regions by summer 2017.

It is as predictable as the tides. In some cases the right has far back more aggressively or skillfully and neutered the effects, like 2017. Other times the bottom fell out like in 2015.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

February 2015

President: Labor Landslide 54%-31%. Fed ticket in third place!

Regional Seats: 4 Left, 1 Center 0 Fed
At-Large Seats: 4 Left 1 Center 0 Fed

NE: Battled between Labor and center left TPP
Mideast: Labor dominated with DR toehold in the Assembly, DR Governor. 1 Federalist Assemblyman
Midwest: Labor dominated up and down the ballot.
Pacific: TPP cesspool where the two biggest TPPers hated each other and bickered openly in public.
South: Toppled by a TPP coup.


Feds held 4 offices, three of which were appointed (Deputy GM, IDS Judicial Overlord, Supreme Court Justice)

Now lets have a little straight talk. Consolidation means that the 3 regions have a larger population and thus easier for Conservatives to struggle head to head against left wing candidates. It also means that all the regions are more sensitive to surges in left wing registration, whereas previously you always had one region or two where the left was weak. This happened a year ago, when everyone was crowing about Dead Labor, Labor controlled ALL 3 Regions, had a majority in the House and Senate.

The only difference was DFW was President, elected by running on a centrist platform.

The simple fact is every two years the left gets a windfall as energized posters join the Atlas, they register and vote and the left gets a boost. Internet demographics is a left leaning crowd, always been that way.

Post 2008: Recruitment by bgwah begins 2 years of JCP dominance
Post 2010: Massive Recruitment by Napoleon secures NE for JCP by summer 2011 and with it national elections again.
Post 2012: Massive Recruitment by Adam propels Labor over the Liberals by summer 2013
Post 2014: Results see early 2015 above
Post 2016: Blair's Recruitment drive gives them a +30 advantage, allowing them to win all three regions by summer 2017.

It is as predictable as the tides. In some cases the right has far back more aggressively or skillfully and neutered the effects, like 2017. Other times the bottom fell out like in 2015.

In February 2015 the left was already controlling the Mideast Assembly, but not the governor though.

Who were the two TPPs hating each others in tje Pacific?

Toehold does not imply control.


Turkisblau and Simfan.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The right is not dead. We need more purism. Bolsonaro's victory in Brazil shows a path for us. The good people of Atlasia will be fed up with Labor's toxic mix of socialism, feminism and corruption soon. We just need to offer an alternative in order to turn out our voters.

We need enthusiasm and energy yes, but it is very difficult to unite three quadrants behind any form of "purist agenda" and this is the challenge for a competitive right of center party in Atlasia, keeping Conservatives, Libertarians, moderates, populists and nationalists all under one roof.

We turned out 94% of our eligible votes in the last election, which is one of the highest ever.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Again, if we didn't give up when we had 0 Senate seats, why should we throw in the towel now?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

a quirky centrist in Lumine

see, atlasian politics isn't divided along left and right, it's divided along meme centrists and quirky centrists

Discuss with maps.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Because I thought WB was capable of running an efficient presidency based on what I observed behind the scenes. Of course, debate hasn’t been substantive as I’d like. As for this election, both Pericles and Lumine have caused uproar in the past, but I do think Pericles will add debate and ideas to the Senate while Lumine seems focused on game reform, which doesn’t seem to be that high of a priority right now to the Senate. I will say I would have considered voting for Koppa had he been active in the debate and not dropped out but I don’t think he would have been active.

The House of Representatives is passing sweeping legislation that is pro-worker, pro-immigrant, and pro-Atlasian! We are currently amending the Constitution to make government work more efficiently. The Senate has likewise been drafting legislation. This has been a productive administration!

Ah yes! Prioritizing the passage amnesty for illegals surely satisfies the #Populist impulses of YE as well as "pro-worker" bills that do nothing to solve real problems in addition to attempting to amend the constitution to bypass the fair process for governing. Also, the Secretary of Internal Affairs remains unfilled and we have a president who spends more time posting memes on discord than governing. How wonderful indeed!

Nothing has gotten done in the Senate outside of the EFCA though in Sestak’s defense, I know he has A LOT on his plate. I don’t think the bill passed by the House is amnesty and I thought just requires a reason beyond being undocumented for deportation (hint: that means criminals can be deported).

Waiving the risk of deportation essentially assures a flood of illegal immigrants. The proper way to handle this is in a bill like we did with Come out of the Shadows, which was a bipartisan compromise. This bill in the House not only undercuts that, it undercuts future enforcement as well as to facilitate cyclical amnesty, because it creates the assumption that future populations of illegals will just be legalized in turn. That just extends the problem we already have.

Also this defeatist acceptance of inactivity, "well everyone else is inactive so there isn't anything I can do?" That's bullsh**t!!!

The President can write and introduce legislation. The President can give speeches advocating for said bills, The President can PM congress members to get them on board and to make sure they are paying attention. The President can call on the people to demand likewise of their members. We are slowly but surely slipping into the Afleitch situation and we have a different constitution that empowers the President to do just that.


Where is the daily updates of the Chambers? Where is the daily PMs to all of the members? 

There is always something you can do. You can light the desks and the chairs on fire, that will get people off their asses. Doing nothing, conceding to inactivity and bemoaning general inactivity to justify other inactivity is not the solution to our problems. IT IS THE PROBLEM!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is a huge list of things that the President can and should be doing, and it's painfully obvious he's made no effort to do so.

But I get it, it must be very hard to get to the work he's supposed to do here. It'd take too much time away from him posting dumb memes on discord.

Ultimately it is the responsibility of Congress to pass legislation not the President. Surely Weatherboy would support all of the legislation passed by our left-wing house, but unfortunately the senate has refused to act. This is the fault of the Senate, not of the President. Just as Presidents in the former united states could not force the Senate to be attentive to the will of the nation, Weatherboy cannot do so here. Of course there are "soft power" things you can do, which I imagine may be going on behind the scenes, away from the public boards and from lokcord. But ultimately it is the Senate's laziness that is most impacting this nation, not that of the President.

YOU GUYS HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE!!!!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

which I imagine may be going on behind the scenes, away from the public boards and from lokcord.

What motivation is there for others to join in and participate in the action if they never see any action going on? This game cannot function as six guys talking on an obscure chat server.

The chats must be a support mechanism not a substitute for the action, debate, statements and discourse that must occur primarily here in the boards of Atlasia.

I think Weatherboy has made some good moves in some areas, but I am not going to carry anybody's water here when I was dissatisfied personally with my own accomplishments and yet I signed 50 bills into law in two months with a hostile Congress. With a unified majority in Congress you guys seem incapable of getting anything through.

It is not the right that is obstructing you. It is not the Senate that is obstructing you. It is the hands off discordification of your officeholders that is obstructing you because they are too disengaged. I asked my own members to resign from the house when they got too inactive. I moved to expel my own members from the Senate multiple times pre-reset. You guys need to set standards and try to meet them, not lower the bar to justify the status quo.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

As for the House, they have been ignoring transparency rules for constitutional amendments because nobody bothered to read the rules.

The Senate in their defense, never had their wiki updated to include the relevant passage and yet it is the House, whose rules I meticulously kept up today through the end of my Speakership that violated it. They have no one to blame but there own laziness.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amazingly productive 15th Congress House compared to the last 5 Houses:

House in the 15th Congress (50% complete)
Passed Legislation:
HR 1342: Activity Standards Amendment
HB 1343: Cheaper Energy Helps All Act
HB 1344: Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 13. Triskaidekaphobia
HB 1346: Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 15. Quinoa May Be Food
HB 1350: Making it Easier for H1B Visa Holders to Become Permanent Residents


14th House
Passed Legislation:
HR 1323: Continuing Resolution to Avoid Shutdown
HB 1326: 3D Printed Firearms Act
HR 1326: Resolution to Condemn the Yulin Dog Meat Festival
HB 1327: Ethically Sourced Animal Testing Subjects Act
HB 1324:The Dual Officeholding Act
HB 1325: Revenue Enhancement Act
HB 1328: We Don't Need This Land, So Why Keep It? Act
HB 1329: No Book Bans Act
HB 1332: Deportation Reform Act
HB 1331: Federal Employee Protection Act
HB 1274: Small Business Tax Cut Act
HB 1333: Hey, South Carolina Has Nuts, Too! Act
HR 1330: Resolution to Recognize That Anti-Semitism Is Bad, Mmmkay?
HB 1334:Missing Alzheimer’s Disease Patient Alert Program Reauthorization Act
HB 1339: No More Stupid Laws Affecting Indians Act
HB 1341: Grammar Act of 2018
HB 1336: Tipped Employee Protection Act of 2018
HB 1337: October 2018 Foreign Relations Review
HE 1335:Resolution to Allow The Use of Other Languages on The Ballot
HB 1338: Sharing Someone Else's Nudes Is Not Okay Act
HB 1340: Hurricane Florence Relief Act

House in the 13th Congress
Passed Legislation:
HB 1257: Justice for Atlasian Survivors Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1259: Environmental Regulations Act(passed 8-0)
HR 1263: War Powers Amendment(passed 8-0)
HB 1263: War Powers Amendment revote(passed 6-0)
HB 1267: Fido and Fifi Deserve Better Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1268: Regulating Alcohol on Indian Lands is Dumb Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1264: Silly Rabbit, Makeup is for Humans Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1265: Jaws Is Our Friend, Not Food Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1261: Ethical Disclosure of Artificial Intelligence Act, 2018(passed 7-0)
HB 1238: the RON PAUL Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1258: INFOWARS.COM_PRISONPLANET.COM Act.(passed 5-0)
HB 1270: You Can Broadcast Here Act(passed 6-1)
HB 1272: The Sea Is Not Our Trash Can Act(passed 9-0)
HB 1282: LGBTQ+ Rights Expansion Act of 2018(passed 8-0)
HB 1285: The Student's Bill of Rights Act(passed 6-1)
HB 1279: Bringing Order to Aquatic Transportation Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1262: Postal Reform Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1278: No Child Should Be Allowed To Live In Poverty In Atlasia Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1281: Not All Pig Roasts Are A Good Idea Act(passed 6-0)
HR 1277: The Veto, Override and Redraft Joint Resolution(passed 6-0)
HB 1269: Au Revor To Useless Coins Act(passed 9-0)
HB 1284: Atlasian Jobs Creation Act of 2018(passed 5-0)
HB 1294: Amendment to the Fairness to Workers Act (passed 5-0)
HB 1288: DUMB REGULATION REPEAL ACT 9: NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!(passed 6-0)
HB 1290: Atlasian Government As A Model Employer Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1292: Amendment to the Criminal Justice Act of 2016(passed 5-0)
HB 1287: SANTANDER Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1289: Truth Is Not Subjective Act of 2018(passed 8-0)
HB 1293: Wildfire Disaster Funding Act(passed 9-0)
HB 1295: Don't Make Us Break Your Window Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1298: Let's Allow Alaskans to Make More Money Act(passed 9-0)
HR 1296: Resolution Recognizing That Moby Dick Had The Right Idea(passed 9-0)
HB 1297: Tampon Act(passed 9-0)
HB 1276: Fixing Atlasia's Inequitable cRiminal justice system Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1301: It's Mine Time Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1302: Free Press Amplification Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1310: Promoting The Arts Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1303: Just So We Are Clear Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1305: Dumb Regulation Repeal Act XI(passed 7-0)
HB 1306: Minor Tweaks To Bankruptcy Law Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1307: Dumb Regulations Repeal Act 12: Boom Boom Pow!(passed 6-0)
HB 1309: Cruel And Unusual Punishments Are Bad Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1275: Small Business Tax Cut Act(passed 4-0-1)
HB 1300: Dumb Regulation Repeal Act X: This Land Is Our Land (passed 6-1)
The Helios Act(passed 6-3)
HB 1314: Boring Legal Mumbo Jumbo Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1304: Don't Bank With Us Act(passed 5-2)
HB 1315: Hey Man, Grass Aint Cheap Act(passed 8-0)
HB 1311: Make Nyman A Paradise Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1317: Fixing Deregistration Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1313: Standard Barrels Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1312: Fairer Juries Act(passed 5-0)
HB 1318: Spelling Counts Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1316: Open Relationship Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1204: School Defense and Mental Health Reform Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1319: Making Party Platforms More Transparent Act(passed 6-0)
HB 1308: Flood Insurance Reform Act(passed 7-0)
HB 1295: Don't Make Us Break Your Window Act revote(passed 8-0)


12th Congress House
Passed Legislation:
HR 1222 -- Federal Budget FY2018 & House Rules Amendment (Passed 8-0)
Right to Try Act - HB 1227 (Passed 9-0)
Accountability in Foreign Aid Act - HB 1225 (Passed 8-0)
High-Speed Rail Act of 2018 - HB 1208 (Passed 8-0)
Let's Try This Act - HB 1231 (Passed 5-0)
FREE SPEECH PROTECTION ACT - HB 1232 (Passed 8-0)
HR 1230 -- Eminent Domain Reform Act (Passed 7-0)
The HELIOS Act - HB 1131 (Senate Originated Bill x2) (Passed 8-0)
HB 1236 -- Hot Food with SNAP is OK Sometimes Act (Passed 9-0)
The Student's Bill of Rights - HB 1224 (Passed 8-0)
Employee Free Choice Act of 2018 - HB 1226 (Passed 6-3)
HR 1241 -- Cheaper Flights ACT (Passed 7-0)
The FHTAGN Act - HB 1238 (Passed 8-0)
Who Polices the Police Act - HB 1237 (Passed 8-0)
Governmental Efficiency Act of 2018 - HB 1234 (Passed 9-0)
Animal Policies Reform Act - HB 1239 (Passed 7-0)
War Dogs Act - HB1240 (Passed 8-0)
HB 1244 -- Vroom Vroom Act (Passed 7-0)
NUCLEAR ENERGY IS THE FUTURE ACT - HB 1242 (Passed 8-0)
HB 1243 -- Reforming Criminal Law Act (Passed 7-0)
HR 1248 -- Fairness to Workers Act (Passed 6-0-1)
HR 1247 -- Religious Freedom Amplification Act (Passed 5-0)
HB 1255 -- High-Speed Rail Act of 2018 (Passed 5-0)
Decriminalization of Online Activities Act - HB 1246 (Passed 7-0)
HB 1251 -- Tangier Island Protection Act (Passed 6-0)
HB 1256 -- We Should Help Workers Act (Passed 5-1)
HB 1254 -- Dumb Regulations Repeal Act (Passed 5-0)
SUPPORTING I.S.R.A.E.L ACT - HB 1252 (Passed 5-0)
Artificial Intelligence Amendment - HR 1249 (Passed 7-0)
LGBTQ+ Rights Expansion Act - HB 1250 (Passed 5-0)

11th Congress House
Passed Legislation:
Succession of Seats Resolution
Paygo Rule Resolution amendment
HB 1200 -- Enceladus Mission Probe Funding
Federal Electoral Act of 2018 - HB 1189
Party Organisation Act - HB 1191
Amendment to the Return Education to the Regions Act - HB 1198
Transparency is a Right Act - HB 1206
HB 1198 -- Thibodaux 1887 Memorial Act
How Was This Missed Resolution - HR 1207
HB 1202 - Care for Veterans Act
HB 1210 -- Save the Bees Act
HB 1187 -- An Act to Preserve and Cherish Native Atlasian Culture
HB 1213 -- Atlasian Drone Regulation Act of 2018
HB 1217 -- MADA Act
HB 1211 -- Constitutional Amendment Explanation Requirement Act
Speaker No Confidence Resolution  - HR 1216
Freedom of Farmers to Farm Freely Act - HB 1215
Penal Reform Act 2018 - HB 1183
People’s Healthcare Information Protection Act - HB 1212

10th congress House
Passed Legislation:
HB 1181 -- Patent Reform Act of 2017
Abolish Daylight Savings Act - HB 1184
Make Atlasia Debate Again Act, 2018 - HB 1185
Atlasian Evidentiary Disclosures Act - HB 1182
Cheaper Medicine Helps the Poors Act - HB 1186
Voting Clarification Amendment - HR 1193
Health Through Prevention Act - HB 1179
Right to Lottery Privacy Act, 2018 - HB 1194
Reintroduction of Top Secret Classification Act - HB 1196
Return Education to the Regions Act


At current pace, it might barely match the 10th by January 4th.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

One will notice the most productive House was when I was Dpeaker? Coincidence? I think not!

#BringBackPericles!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Y'all are idiots if you genuinely think that any sort of bill slump is solely due to who was speaker, or who was president, or because 'the party I disagree with is worse at getting bills through.' There are lots of variables at play (how many bills the citizens are writing, the individual beliefs of the representatives, whether or not bills are being rushed, etc.) You can't just look at who was president or speaker or the CEO of the McDonald's at the time, because it's not accurate, and doesn't say too much about the actual bills being passed.

ding ding ding

I disagree. Never sucked as Speaker in the 3rd and 4th Congress. He made 91 posts across the forum across a two week period (Dec 9th through 22nd) and didn't have time to make a single post in the House. It was the only time in history that literally 100% of the house could have been expelled for violating the activity standard and it was 100% the Speaker's fault.

A Speaker cannot make people introduce bills, but a Speaker can hinder and prevent action through sheer incompetence and/or gross inactivity. I am not saying anyone has reached that level here (yet), but lets not go overboard with this narrative.

We keep coming back to the same argument? "There is nothing we can do because x, y, z". This pisses me the  off because it is false. People said the same thing in Jan and February 2017. Regions were threatening to secede because Congress was so incompetent and it was so hopeless.

1. You maintain your noticeboard and update it regularly
2. You establish and maintain lines of communication. You or a whip should PM all members after each update and when bills pass you should PM the whole leadership team of Congress (VP, PPT/Speaker and both deputies)
3. The VP should maintain lists of passed bills from each chamber so bills aren't lost in between.
4. Compel debate by requiring advocacy on all amendments and bills within 24 hours of introduction to the floor, lest the bill/amendment get canned
5. If there are deficiencies, draw attention to it. If members are routinely under performing, you ask them to retire/resign.
6. If you run out of bills, get out the census list and start PMing your constituents offering to introduce bills for them.

There is always something you can do.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well this thread certainly went places.

Credit for the success of the 13th Congress should go to all five of the leadership team of Congress. We can quibble over what proportions each contributed but the fact of the matter is that together those five people produced the most productive Congress in the history of the game. More productive than any pre-reset Congress, not just post-reset.

What we should be doing is examining the things that made that congress a success. And then seeking to maintain/improve/restore them.

1. Skillful administration cumulatively by a team of people (VP, PPT/Speaker, Deputies)
2. The presence of people devoted to policy and and a deep interest in the issues
3. The engagement on multiple fronts of the administration.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

How do the January regional elections factor into this?

In the south TM won by a slightly smaller margin than before, with more protest votes; but the Feds got back control of the Chamber of Delegates (3-2)

Meanwhile in Fremont while Scott ran unopposed and the left does hold a 4-2-1 majority as of now I think.

Given the Decent or better results for Feds in these elections, I decided not to include them for this.

I mean, why let contradictory evidence get in the way of a good crusade narrative.

Which reminds me I need to catch back on Extra History again.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Alive and Kicking and Still STanding.

Keep betting against us Atlasia, makes it more fun in the end!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The "right" and the "left" cannot die. It evolves, all the time.

There is a thread about this entitled "Can ideologies die".

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Time to update this, don't you think?

Don't give him any ideas.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

By October of 2015, the left had only 1 of the then 10 Senate seats.

:waves:

This is incorrect.


While Truman was indeed a Senator in October 2015, he was so as a member of TPP. Labor did have a Senator, New Canadaland. And Talleyrand got elected as a faux Federalist with Labor votes in a Special election and then proceeded with the expulsions of New Canadaland and Cassius, who were replaced by Barnes (registered indy) and Maxwell (who jumped between Make Atlasia Great Again Party and Labor several times).

So while Labor was without a Senator during sporadic points, the left was most certainly not without members. And then in early November when Maxwell was replaced by Celticempire, Lumine resigned and was replaced by leftwing Turkisblau.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

By October of 2015, the left had only 1 of the then 10 Senate seats.

:waves:


The right will be back eventually, barring a cataclysmic event in the life of the forum —but it's hard to overstate the drubbing they just took. Even in 2015, the Federalist collapse was tempered by the existence of other forces to oppose the left —TPP held the balance of power in the Senate, Yankee's defeat was engineered by the anti-Federalist center and resulted in Hagrid (a conservative and former Federalist chairman) becoming Senator for the South, and crucially there still remained races that the left just could not win. Even Bore in his reelection romp could not carry all five regions, and that same election PiT trounced Hagrid to recapture the Southern seat. On the inverse, during the permanent Fed majority of 2017, Frémont remained as a bastion of leftism without a single elected Federalist officeholder for most of that year. For the right to be completely shut-out everywhere at every level is simply unprecedented in the history of the game.

This was always a risk associated with a three region map versus a five region map and it is one of the reasons that there was such concern and opposition to consolidation among conservatives between the periods of 2013 and 2015.

This came to close happening in late 2012 when Cottonfield was underway and Labor already had the Midwest, and Napoleon was making forays into the Mideast, while controlling the NE and Pacific. Aside from that the right always managed to claw out one region in the five map and  typically two when things were running smoothly.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

By October of 2015, the left had only 1 of the then 10 Senate seats.

:waves:

This is incorrect.


While Truman was indeed a Senator in October 2015, he was so as a member of TPP. Labor did have a Senator, New Canadaland. And Talleyrand got elected as a faux Federalist with Labor votes in a Special election and then proceeded with the expulsions of New Canadaland and Cassius, who were replaced by Barnes (registered indy) and Maxwell (who jumped between Make Atlasia Great Again Party and Labor several times).

So while Labor was without a Senator during sporadic points, the left was most certainly not without members. And then in early November when Maxwell was replaced by Celticempire, Lumine resigned and was replaced by leftwing Turkisblau.

Pretty sure it was Ebowed who replaced Lumine (appointed to the seat by Governor Turk).

But yes, there were still a handful of leftist Senators in 2015. Early 2016 was when the bottom really fell out of the tub and the Senatorial left became me, Ebowed, and Barnes —the latter two being MIA.

I got them switched around, Turk preceeded Lumine as well in the same Senate seat.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

How many regions would the right control right now if we had the pre-reset government structure though?

Fewer people per region lowers the bar for winning and thus makes it easier for more conservative candidates to win. That being said, were this a late 2012 it is very possible Deadprez still loses and possibly Muaddib as well.

Deadprez has a very narrow base, and such candidates do poorly when running region wide, because when you run region wide you have to unite all the various quadrants of the right to get to 51%. Muaddib also has this same problem though not to same extent. He is more moderate on economic issues for instance.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

		Mideast	Midwest	Northeast	Pacific	South
LAB		19	15	30	12	21
SFD		09	04	03	03	12
FED		05	02	06	02	04
OTH		01	02	07	00	03

* Excluding 2 votes for Adam in the UK


I may have misplaced a vote here or there, but it seems even under the old map Labor still would have swept the table. The Senate is more complicated, as the candidates would need to be different and we'd need to use August numbers to determine the At-Large Seats, but if we assume Class II was 2-2-1 (with Poirot as the fifth Senator) it's very possible we'd be looking at a Senate where Labor has a 6-3 or 7-3 majority.

Poirot's chances of winning would have been very low with five seats since the quota would be in the mid to high 20s.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

And this time the Federalist ticked consisted of two ex-labor members; one of whom I believe had the distinction of being the only Atlasian (in my knowledge) to be formally expelled from a political party!

This is not so.

Hamilton was expelled from the RPP. Tmth and Ben were expelled from the Feds by a certain former Chair who doesn't like his name to be mentioned here anymore.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The Feds "outsource" the opposition to the DA and Feds outside the South and sometimes fills the Feds slots with DAers, see the South from what I see and I'd guess if tmth runs for Governor in October, Weatherboy will likely fill a slot regardless if tmth runs for Governor and the Feds will have to find a replacement for Spark's and Jessica's slots, and the Feds will have to get some of their old Delegates by re recruiting them into the game (Santander) or getting them to run again, (hillgoose, Bagel). However, the Greens have only 3 people to run, while the DA can run a lot of people because many of the people are experienced and aren't zombies.

Santander would be on the left if he rejoined. This isn't 2016 anymore.

Look I don't think you discord analysts understand anything about the right in this game or in general. We are not here to be absorbed by anyone. We will work with people when it is in our interest and the game's interest to do so, but we have a set of values that the other parties would never adequately represent.

Most of the Feds are pro-gun, almost all of them believe that too much power has been concentrated in Nyman at the expense of the regions and the people, nearly all of them believe that gov't has been very irresponsible with how spending is being done. We believe in stronger families (though have different ideas about how to obtain that) and many of us are pro-life.

Now whether or not we can get people to actually run for office is another matter and whether we can convince conservatives to there is a possibility of success and thus it is worth coming back and investing time we will have to see.

There will never be a late 2007 or early 2008 (no conservative or center right party) scenario playing out as long as I have something to say about it. On the other hand, I cannot say what level the right is going to stabilize at because I do not know what level or when the Atlas demographics are going to stabilize at and begin to reverse.