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« on: January 23, 2020, 06:42:01 AM »
Quote from: Anomalocaris🌹 on January 22, 2020, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: Beet on January 22, 2020, 03:08:21 PM
This is such a bad faith attack on Biden. Even if he supported Social Security cuts in the past, he isn't going to now. The neoliberal era is over. Also, if Social Security is your issue, Warren has the most progressive plan, that expands benefits by $200 a month. This is a play for older voters and is a completely political attack.

...It literally is not! This is so deluded. The people who've staffed the Clinton and Obama presidencies are not suddenly going to go away or change their tune under a Biden Administration. If/when there's a recession under a Biden Administration there is a 100% chance that he'll try to cut a grand bargain deal with the Congressional GOP to gut Social Security and you'd have to totally clueless to think that the ideological blank slates that lead the Democratic Caucuses won't happily go along with it.

"If/when there's a recession"

Yes. There have been ~10 years of economic expansion, but you have to think carefully who you'd like to see in WH when the good days are over.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2020, 11:02:23 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/us/politics/joe-hunter-biden-ukraine.html
How Joe Biden Talks About a Touchy Subject: His Son
As he runs for president, Mr. Biden has repeatedly faced questions about the overseas business dealings of his son, Hunter Biden. He has mostly kept his cool — but not always.

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For Mr. Biden, the stream of questions about his son touches on a vulnerability for his candidacy and presents a fine line for him to navigate. As a former vice president, he wants to show that he exudes statesmanship but also wants to prove to Democrats desperate to oust Mr. Trump that he has the fortitude and temperament to take on the president.

He can be by turns calm or curt as he stresses that his son committed no wrongdoing in his overseas business dealings. For the most part, he has kept his cool, but he has also been prone to displays of anger.

“It’s a very personal issue,” said Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, who worked closely with Mr. Biden in the Obama administration when he acted as the de facto labor liaison. She said Mr. Trump was “an evil genius on the issue of trying to cut other people up, and cut them up this way.”

Stable Evil Genius, indeed!
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2020, 05:47:12 AM »
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on January 27, 2020, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Cory Booker on January 27, 2020, 07:43:10 AM
The real story is Hunter Biden and how much damage he has caused Biden. Hunter Biden has been accused of back child support payments. Biden was always looked up to by most Dems, but the problem is his son


Who f***ing cares about his son? Other than Republicans.


Unfortunately, there have been just a few polls who asks about it (I wounder why Roll Eyes)

Here you have one from Monmouth (Oct. 2, 2019):

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_100219/
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The Monmouth poll also finds that 43% of registered voters believe Trump’s claim that Biden probably did pressure Ukrainian officials to keep them from investigating his son’s business interests there. This compares to 37% who say that Biden probably did not do this and 20% who are unsure.  Among self-identified Republicans and Republican-leaning voters, 67% say Biden probably did this and 15% say he did not, with 17% being unsure. Among self-identified Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters, 21% say Biden probably did this and 60% say he did not, with 18% being unsure. Among true independents, 39% say Biden probably did this and 27% say he did not, with 34% being unsure.

“The fact that 4-in-10 independents are inclined to believe what they have heard from Trump is a warning sign for the Biden campaign.  How the candidate fights back against this charge will be crucial to his argument of electability,” said Murray.

It is definitely no nothing.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2020, 05:55:01 AM »


Whoa. Not nice. Biden have become anxious and bitter lately. Trump managed to get under his skin with his Hunter attacks, I guess. While Bernie is surging...
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2020, 07:32:26 AM »


I think everybody is except Bernie. Impeachment just sucks all the air.


May be Bloomberg has a path after all.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2020, 03:57:58 PM »
Quote from: Minute Maid Juice on February 03, 2020, 02:58:32 PM
Is he introducing someone with ...blackface on?



No, it's just Ralph Northam soon to be moon-walking.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2020, 01:10:22 PM »




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“It was a cluster-f---” said one. “A sh**t show,” said another. “A f---ing disaster,” said a third.

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Even Biden, who began Tuesday morning in New Hampshire bragging that he probably did well in Iowa, admitted Wednesday afternoon that he suffered a “gut punch.”

“I expected to do better,” Biden said at a CNN town hall in Manchester, New Hampshire, Wednesday evening. “And I expected that our organization would perform better.”

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“Clearly the campaign underperformed its own expectations,” said one of the individuals familiar with the presentation.

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“We believe South Carolina is our firewall and it is,” said a Biden adviser. “But if we lose three straight in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, the fire can jump the wall.”

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“Nevada is crying out for resources and we should give it to them, but some of us think we can rely on South Carolina and that’s a big mistake,” the adviser said. “Bernie is on the move in Nevada. It’s a caucus state. We just got crushed in a caucus state. Do the math.”


It's literally only MT Treasurer who claims there was nothing to see there.
Disclaimer: Biden is still one of 2-3 main players, but, maaaan, IA was a really bad for him.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2020, 03:05:36 PM »
God dammit, take the man to a retirement home, cause this Hunter-thing has damaged his brain!


It doesn't matter it was a quote, it sounded awful, and he didn't even bother to explain it was a quote.


Are you saying it wasn't awful? Yes, it was. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldiers! Be honest now!
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2020, 10:33:25 AM »
Quote from: MT Treasurer on February 10, 2020, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: ElectionsGuy on February 10, 2020, 04:30:33 PM
LMAO! Yes, Biden can survive a fifth-place finish in NH, but he absolutely cannot, under any circumstances, survive with fifth place in California.

Yeah, if this is even close to accurate, Biden is done (and this time for real). Today has been the worst day for his campaign in terms of polling.


It says a lot, that even Indy starts to accept that Biden is not doing well.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 11:25:23 AM »
Still, he'd likely be the nominee if primary would have started in SC.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2020, 09:30:12 AM »
Anyone who thinks Joe Biden campaign is NOT dead is a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 10:33:10 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2020, 07:41:06 AM »
The only way to stop Bernie was (is?) that Bloomy or Biden would somehow magically unify the "moderate" vote. Yesterday Bloomy completely failed (thanks to Liz) to do it. Biden was ok-to-good, but it wasn't enough and he is out of money.

Now, if Bloomy would give his money to Biden, Joe would probably get a descent chance to compete with Bernie. But Trump got in Mini-Mike's head, so there is no way Bloomy would give in now. And after ST it is too late!  Angel
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2020, 03:04:45 PM »
Quote from: Wolverine22 on February 23, 2020, 11:26:37 AM
This was the text the Biden campaign sent out last night. I almost laughed.

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Joe Biden's comeback starts here. Our momentum is soaring after our second place finish in Nevada, and we're getting ready for South Carolina and beyond.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2020, 02:20:18 PM »
Quote from: Xing on February 24, 2020, 01:53:15 PM
Biden very likely wins SC, but unless he wins by a surprisingly wide margin, what is his path forward? He'll get a few states on Super Tuesday, but unless he can start winning states outside of the South, he'll just keep falling behind Sanders in delegates after that.

Models are imperfect, but according to 538:


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Biden is forecasted to win an average of 27% of the vote in South Carolina. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 17% and 38% of the vote. He has a 1 in 2 (48%) chance of winning the most votes, slightly better than the second most likely winner, Sanders, who has a 2 in 5 (43%) chance.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/south-carolina/
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2020, 11:26:29 AM »
Harry Enten is one of the best out there and here are his thoughts on SC/Biden







This + Fake News Click-bate Media Free Press' love to Comeback-stories bode (relatively) well for Joe.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2020, 05:27:24 AM »



Good news for Bernie is that Biden (and everyone else but Bloomy) is out of their money.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2020, 12:21:03 PM »
Quote from: MillennialModerate on February 27, 2020, 06:23:23 AM
Quote from: Russian Bear on February 27, 2020, 05:27:24 AM


Good news for Bernie is that Biden (and everyone else but Bloomy) is out of their money.

South Carolina could be a game changer in the financial sense if not politically.

Biden wins going away and the media narrative is he has a real shot: money flows in
Biden wins by small margin and media narrative is his candidacy has nowhere to go: broke as a joke

Yes, but Super Tuesday is 3 days after SC.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2020, 11:33:41 AM »
Quote from: MillennialModerate on February 27, 2020, 06:23:23 AM
Quote from: Russian Bear on February 27, 2020, 05:27:24 AM


Good news for Bernie is that Biden (and everyone else but Bloomy) is out of their money.

South Carolina could be a game changer in the financial sense if not politically.

Biden wins going away and the media narrative is he has a real shot: money flows in
Biden wins by small margin and media narrative is his candidacy has nowhere to go: broke as a joke


Sure. What I am saying is that Biden would way more dangerous (for Bernie), if he had more money. If he had, I'd say it were a Toss-up-to-lean Bernie. As it looks rn, it is Lean-to-likely Bernie IMO.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2020, 12:18:02 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2020, 02:05:28 PM »






Analys of brilliant Harry Enten >>>
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2020, 04:47:00 AM »
God damn you, ButtiPete. Now it is unlikely that Berne can run up the score in CA...
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2020, 01:59:16 PM »
Biden right now:

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4-5-2-1 is unstoppable Comeback Kid strategy, you losers!
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2020, 07:33:56 AM »
Quote from: Arch on March 04, 2020, 02:29:58 AM
Does anyone have the video of that rally where Biden received endorsements from Klobuchar and Buttigieg?

Furthermore, does anyone have the video of his Super Tuesday speech?

I hear from this thread that both of them were good. I'd like to watch them.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2020, 03:43:00 PM »
Quote from: heatcharger on March 04, 2020, 02:50:49 PM
I’m now realizing we’re in a phase of the campaign where Biden can fall into a number of land mines. Do not pick Kamala Harris — she has so many obvious skeletons and we all know it. Stacey Abrams and whoever the hell this Barragan person is are ultimate identity politics picks. Duckworth as a veteran and senator is a pick that can stand on the merit as much as these things can be.

Beto needs to be more or less shelved. I really like the guy, but the Biden campaign needs to be cognizant of who and what is politically toxic to persuadable groups. I have some confidence they will but not overwhelmingly.

Kick-ass Klob would be a superb choice, but it will be the identity-shmidentity politics choice I hope.
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