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« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2023, 04:48:40 PM »

Kelly Ayotte won a Senate seat nearly 14 years ago and lost it in a favorable year for her almost 8 years ago. I feel like this happens every 2 years where a legacy candidate comes back to try and win a state that has passed them by and they pretty much always lose. I don't know the state too well so I won't commit to a bold prediction, but I don't see why Ayotte would be anything better than a tossup.

Women are perceived as more liberal/moderate then men

Whoever the angrier NH woman is will win
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« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2023, 05:46:28 PM »

Holy sh** I can finally stop coping
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« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2023, 07:23:53 PM »



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« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2023, 08:30:56 PM »

Sununu said he won't run for a fifth term. I was confused when I read that, surely he hasn't been in power that long?

Today I leaned NH elects a governor every two years! Same for Vermont. That must be exhausting lol for both voters and politicians
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« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2023, 08:47:30 PM »

At first Safe R, but then Sununu decided not to run, so now I rank this as Lean D.
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« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2023, 08:53:19 PM »

Collins will soon be the last statewide Republican in the Northeast, perhaps north of the mason Dixon.
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« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2023, 09:34:11 PM »

Anyways, the Morse news puts the primary at Safe Edelblut if he wants it. Even if Ayotte ran, the NHGOP has gotten much more conservative and their alliance with Ayotte/Sununu is one of electability. Edelblut nearly beat Sununu in 2016 and is very conservative, but not insane like Bolduc. He'll get some statewide support from the right wing of the party.

With Morse in, all Edelblut needs to do is announce and he wins.

With Ayotte: Edelblut 46-Ayotte 37-Morse 17
Without Ayotte: Edelblut 68-Morse 32
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« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2023, 12:31:02 AM »

Sununu said he won't run for a fifth term. I was confused when I read that, surely he hasn't been in power that long?

Today I leaned NH elects a governor every two years! Same for Vermont. That must be exhausting lol for both voters and politicians

At one time, I believe nearly every state had two year terms for governor. When Franklin Roosevelt was elected President in 1932, he had been the two term governor of New York after first being elected in 1928.

When President Clinton started his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, he was elected two a two year term. It was changed to a four year term while he was governor.
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« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2023, 04:44:53 AM »

Sununu said he won't run for a fifth term. I was confused when I read that, surely he hasn't been in power that long?

Today I leaned NH elects a governor every two years! Same for Vermont. That must be exhausting lol for both voters and politicians

At one time, I believe nearly every state had two year terms for governor. When Franklin Roosevelt was elected President in 1932, he had been the two term governor of New York after first being elected in 1928.

When President Clinton started his tenure as Governor of Arkansas, he was elected two a two year term. It was changed to a four year term while he was governor.

Standardization of the gubernatorial term to 4 years was a very slow process. In early America gubernatorial terms were often 1 or 2 years. Some states (NY, NJ, DE) even had 3 year gubernatorial terms— completely bizarre by modern standards. Massachusetts had yearly gubernatorial elections until the beginning of the 20th century. There were still plenty of states with 2 year terms well into the mid/late 20th century too.
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« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2023, 03:33:40 PM »

Collins will soon be the last statewide Republican in the Northeast, perhaps north of the mason Dixon.
A Republican nearly won the New York governorship in November. 47% of the vote!
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« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2023, 03:45:29 PM »

Collins will soon be the last statewide Republican in the Northeast, perhaps north of the mason Dixon.

PA has a Republican treasurer and auditor. Ciattarelli could also win the NJ governorship in 2025 assuming Biden is still president and Phil Scott is a lock for another term if he wants it.
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« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2023, 05:33:27 PM »

Collins will soon be the last statewide Republican in the Northeast, perhaps north of the mason Dixon.

PA has a Republican treasurer and auditor. Ciattarelli could also win the NJ governorship in 2025 assuming Biden is still president and Phil Scott is a lock for another term if he wants it.

Even after Phil Scott, Vermont strikes me as a state with potential to elect another reasonable Republican governor should one come along.
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« Reply #87 on: July 20, 2023, 05:38:56 PM »

Ayotte will not win this race but her candidacy could force the DGA to divert resources from North Carolina to the relatively expensive Boston media market.
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« Reply #88 on: July 20, 2023, 05:50:44 PM »

Collins will soon be the last statewide Republican in the Northeast, perhaps north of the mason Dixon.

PA has a Republican treasurer and auditor. Ciattarelli could also win the NJ governorship in 2025 assuming Biden is still president and Phil Scott is a lock for another term if he wants it.

Garrity could loose in 24, but you’re right I forgot about Scott
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« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2023, 08:57:14 PM »

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« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2023, 12:19:16 PM »

Anyways, the Morse news puts the primary at Safe Edelblut if he wants it. Even if Ayotte ran, the NHGOP has gotten much more conservative and their alliance with Ayotte/Sununu is one of electability. Edelblut nearly beat Sununu in 2016 and is very conservative, but not insane like Bolduc. He'll get some statewide support from the right wing of the party.

With Morse in, all Edelblut needs to do is announce and he wins.

With Ayotte: Edelblut 46-Ayotte 37-Morse 17
Without Ayotte: Edelblut 68-Morse 32

Edelblut also isn't some nobody who just entered politics running as an anti-establishment barnburner, he's been the Education Commissioner since 2017 and clearly has good relationships with GOP leaders/groups across the state. He's pretty conservative but he's also essentially 'inside the tent' and a known quantity. He's also been preparing to run since 2017.
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« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2023, 07:24:35 AM »

Ayotte in

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« Reply #92 on: July 24, 2023, 07:51:57 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.
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« Reply #93 on: July 24, 2023, 08:15:15 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.

Why would Ayotte make it Lean R? She’s been out of office for 6 years and lost her last election.
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« Reply #94 on: July 24, 2023, 08:39:54 AM »

Ayotte will not win this race but her candidacy could force the DGA to divert resources from North Carolina to the relatively expensive Boston media market.

Wait you really think so? Ayotte is a hardliner on abortion, I don't see how this candidacy isn't DOA in the general.
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« Reply #95 on: July 24, 2023, 08:44:26 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.

Why would Ayotte make it Lean R? She’s been out of office for 6 years and lost her last election.

The Democrats don't really have a strong candidate as of yet.
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« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2023, 09:30:32 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.

Why would Ayotte make it Lean R? She’s been out of office for 6 years and lost her last election.

The Democrats don't really have a strong candidate as of yet.

What’s wrong with Warmington or Craig?
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« Reply #97 on: July 24, 2023, 09:32:43 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.

Why would Ayotte make it Lean R? She’s been out of office for 6 years and lost her last election.

The Democrats don't really have a strong candidate as of yet.

What’s wrong with Warmington or Craig?

Compared to Ayotte, they just aren't strong candidates. That said, they should easily beat Edelblut or any other Republican, and Ayotte is probably an underdog in a Republican Primary right now, given she's more moderate than Sununnu is, so if I had to assign an overall rating, I'd go with the Lean D, on the assumption that Ayotte is going to lose the Republican Primary.
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« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2023, 09:34:11 AM »

Side note; in some pictures Craig has a growth on her cheek, but I think she had it removed recently. Anyone know more about that?
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« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2023, 10:01:00 AM »

Lean R with Ayotte, Safe D with anyone else.

Why would Ayotte make it Lean R? She’s been out of office for 6 years and lost her last election.

The Democrats don't really have a strong candidate as of yet.

What’s wrong with Warmington or Craig?

Warmington lobbied for Purdue Pharma back in the day and actively defended Oxycodone. As I've said, there's a massive difference between Warren working for corporations or whatever and literally shilling Oxy to the state. This entire thing alone is why I'm voting for Craig
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