DC Unrest Megathread

[2952-0-0]

The video is actually very good. He should have recorded this video on November 6 or 7 when it became clear that he had lost the election.

He should resign now to avoid being impeached and Pence should pardon him.

God's how in God's name can you say he deserves pardoned? Is this just a way of pardoning your own conscience for supporting this neo-Nazi?

No. It's just an embarrassment to the country to have a former President prosecuted for crimes and possibly convicted.

Chinese state media has been absolutely ecstatic about the crisis in Washington, and they had live reporters on the ground.

What do you think was their tone? No prizes for the right answer.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Might as well do a response to all the craziness that happened, now that its one day past and emotions have been sorted out.
What happened yesterday was not acceptable, and I don't see any blue avatar here trying to defend the looting and damage done. Those people will hopefully be charged and go to jail and pay all appropriate fines/fees. It is understandable to be upset at what happened with the election and how it was counted but this simply was not the way to do it. Changes need to be made at the state level in order to ban VBM and all other regulations. Capitol Hill is not the main place where that happens.
However, that being said the summer riots greatly encouraged this. When people saw ANTIFA unleashed in Portland and stores being broken into and cops kneeling in front of BLM they believed that they could (wrongfully) do this stuff too.
I am still a Trump supporter and was since 2015, as I do not think it is his fault. He was misguided in the approach post Nov 3 and I do not think the election was stolen, but he never wanted the Capitol building to be stormed. Instead he wanted large outdoor protests but he never had intent of something like this happening. Removing Trump would be a horrible decision as he only has 13 days left, and impeachment would only add more fuel to the fire. The country needs to unite at this moment not get more divided, which attempting to lock up a former President will do.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The three Trump Supreme Court justices need to resign too, but not until Biden is in office.

lol.
Okay, sure Jan.

I’m being facetious.

Ok, good to hear. There's (understandable, yet still wrong) rhetorical hyperbole going on, so it's hard to tell actual hyperbole from joke hyperbole.

[Non Swing Voter]

Might as well do a response to all the craziness that happened, now that its one day past and emotions have been sorted out.
What happened yesterday was not acceptable, and I don't see any blue avatar here trying to defend the looting and damage done. Those people will hopefully be charged and go to jail and pay all appropriate fines/fees. It is understandable to be upset at what happened with the election and how it was counted but this simply was not the way to do it. Changes need to be made at the state level in order to ban VBM and all other regulations. Capitol Hill is not the main place where that happens.
However, that being said the summer riots greatly encouraged this. When people saw ANTIFA unleashed in Portland and stores being broken into and cops kneeling in front of BLM they believed that they could (wrongfully) do this stuff too.
I am still a Trump supporter and was since 2015, as I do not think it is his fault. He was misguided in the approach post Nov 3 and I do not think the election was stolen, but he never wanted the Capitol building to be stormed. Instead he wanted large outdoor protests but he never had intent of something like this happening. Removing Trump would be a horrible decision as he only has 13 days left, and impeachment would only add more fuel to the fire. The country needs to unite at this moment not get more divided, which attempting to lock up a former President will do.

What a crock of horses***.

[Damocles]

Might as well do a response to all the craziness that happened, now that its one day past and emotions have been sorted out.
What happened yesterday was not acceptable, and I don't see any blue avatar here trying to defend the looting and damage done. Those people will hopefully be charged and go to jail and pay all appropriate fines/fees. It is understandable to be upset at what happened with the election and how it was counted but this simply was not the way to do it. Changes need to be made at the state level in order to ban VBM and all other regulations. Capitol Hill is not the main place where that happens.
However, that being said the summer riots greatly encouraged this. When people saw ANTIFA unleashed in Portland and stores being broken into and cops kneeling in front of BLM they believed that they could (wrongfully) do this stuff too.
I am still a Trump supporter and was since 2015, as I do not think it is his fault. He was misguided in the approach post Nov 3 and I do not think the election was stolen, but he never wanted the Capitol building to be stormed. Instead he wanted large outdoor protests but he never had intent of something like this happening. Removing Trump would be a horrible decision as he only has 13 days left, and impeachment would only add more fuel to the fire. The country needs to unite at this moment not get more divided, which attempting to lock up a former President will do.

You and the other blue avatars should go to the Olympics for mental gymnastics.

[beaver2.0]

Sounds like a guy with a bomb vest is in DC. https://twitter.com/jeremyreiner231/status/1347356520053411842

[Indy Texas]

The video is actually very good. He should have recorded this video on November 6 or 7 when it became clear that he had lost the election.

He should resign now to avoid being impeached and Pence should pardon him.

God's how in God's name can you say he deserves pardoned? Is this just a way of pardoning your own conscience for supporting this neo-Nazi?

No. It's just an embarrassment to the country to have a former President prosecuted for crimes and possibly convicted.

Chinese state media has been absolutely ecstatic about the crisis in Washington, and they had live reporters on the ground.

What do you think was their tone? No prizes for the right answer.

They're ecstatic that America's four-year long international humiliation on the world stage has reached a crescendo.

Donald Trump has guaranteed the US can never be a major world power the way it was before he took office.

[Non Swing Voter]

The country needs to unite at this moment not get more divided, which attempting to lock up a former President will do.

What a crock of horses***.

Oh and this was the cherry on top.  Trump spent the last 5 years doing idiotic "Lock her up" chants.  You still support him.  You own this.

[Non Swing Voter]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

[Damocles]

So how recently has Trump gargled Putin’s salty nutsack?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

Trumpists don't really support Russia more than they support America, so this is a false dichtonomy. In fact, many Trumpists are anti-Russian hawks who will in fact point to the sanctions against Russia Trump signed as a good thing.
This "Trump loves Putin" meme never really made sense.

[Indy Texas]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

They really think the world was "laughing at us" when Obama was president and that now they "respect us" with him as president.

In reality, we were respected when Obama was president and they've been laughing at us since 2017.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1347361238645436416

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1347361741898883072?s=20

[Non Swing Voter]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

Trumpists don't really support Russia more than they support America, so this is a false dichtonomy. In fact, many Trumpists are anti-Russian hawks who will in fact point to the sanctions against Russia Trump signed as a good thing.
This "Trump loves Putin" meme never really made sense.

You are confusing standard republican warmongers (Liz Cheney, Marco Rubio) with pathetic no self dignity Trumpist clowns (Rand Paul, Ron Johnson).  

[KaiserDave]

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1347361741898883072?s=20

DING DONG

[TheReckoning]

Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

[KaiserDave]

Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

Mo Brooks and Paul Gosar beg to differ

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1347361741898883072?s=20

DING DONG

https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1347362526560997378

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

The Blue avatars don't seem to get one really simple fact: You either support America or you support Trump.  These are entirely mutually exclusive things at this point.  You are free to support Russia and Trump simultaneously though, which I'm sure you already do.

Trumpists don't really support Russia more than they support America, so this is a false dichtonomy. In fact, many Trumpists are anti-Russian hawks who will in fact point to the sanctions against Russia Trump signed as a good thing.
This "Trump loves Putin" meme never really made sense.

You are confusing standard republican warmongers (Liz Cheney, Marco Rubio) with pathetic no self dignity Trumpist clowns (Rand Paul, Ron Johnson). 

Even taking into account these differences, you don't get any closer to the truth. You don't get any closer to proving me wrong.

[Brittain33]

All these profiles in courage bailing to avoid the 25th amendment decision and blaming the violence.

[Non Swing Voter]

Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

To be fair, pretty much every Republican has condemned the violence, just as how establishment Dems condemned BLM riots.

To quote a cult member who was interviewed yesterday: "Well we know he [they] has to say that but we know he [they] supports us"

[John Dule]

Might as well do a response to all the craziness that happened, now that its one day past and emotions have been sorted out.
What happened yesterday was not acceptable, and I don't see any blue avatar here trying to defend the looting and damage done. Those people will hopefully be charged and go to jail and pay all appropriate fines/fees. It is understandable to be upset at what happened with the election and how it was counted but this simply was not the way to do it. Changes need to be made at the state level in order to ban VBM and all other regulations. Capitol Hill is not the main place where that happens.
However, that being said the summer riots greatly encouraged this. When people saw ANTIFA unleashed in Portland and stores being broken into and cops kneeling in front of BLM they believed that they could (wrongfully) do this stuff too.
I am still a Trump supporter and was since 2015, as I do not think it is his fault. He was misguided in the approach post Nov 3 and I do not think the election was stolen, but he never wanted the Capitol building to be stormed. Instead he wanted large outdoor protests but he never had intent of something like this happening. Removing Trump would be a horrible decision as he only has 13 days left, and impeachment would only add more fuel to the fire. The country needs to unite at this moment not get more divided, which attempting to lock up a former President will do.

Zip it, fascist. Nobody wants to hear it.

There are only two things I am willing to hear from Trump supporters right now.

1) "I am sorry. My vote aided and abetted an attempt at a fascist coup in the United States. I will now live the rest of my life attempting to atone for what I have done."

2) "I am clearly a terrible judge of character. Democrats, please educate me. How did you know the warning signs of Trump's narcissistic, dictatorial personality before I did? Before I ever cast another vote, I should learn how to watch for these things."

Anything else is either apologism, whataboutism, or genuine fascism.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1347361072513232898