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« Reply #2775 on: January 07, 2021, 06:36:34 PM »

Hispanics down in Florida must have hated watching another radical socialist attack unfold.
there is a long and proud tradition in Latin America of responding to the election of a vaguely center-left president with a reactionary coup

Sure, with the usual support of US government for these reactionary groups though. Radical anticommunism leading to people going full Nazis isn’t a exclusive phenomenon of Latin America.







These people don’t care whether the adversaries are communists, socialists, social democrats, liberals or moderate conservatives. There is no distinction between all these in the fascist narrative because they’re all adversaries, so their discourse is designed to make them all “radical communists” in order to incite fear within the population and push them to their side. What feeds fascism is always fear and political ignorance. You can be a moderate conservative or a radical socialist, you will get put inside the same box.

This is present in most places and if in US you already get this type of discourse when it’s basically a center-right (Democrats) vs a right/far-right (Republicans), imagine how much worse it would be if US actually had a center-left with more power like in LatAm and other places. It’s certainly not only Hispanics in US who propagate this type of fascist discourse.
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« Reply #2776 on: January 07, 2021, 06:38:13 PM »



I'm sorry he lost his job, but in all truth, there was a failure of duty yesterday.
You have every member of Congress, the current VP, the next VP and many other high profile individuals in that building. I can understand a situation where the guards needed to retreat back to the doors (since they did not plan accordingly, to have a large enough force on the outside).

But once at the doors the guards needed to stand their ground. The guards have no idea how physically threatening those people would be, if they actually got a hold of someone like Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala, McConnell or Pence. Once the MAGA bastards got through the door, the guards should have used their weapons. They could initially shot at the wall/door or maybe at the perpetrators' legs (less lethal). This would no doubt have retreated many of them to go back in fear/shock, as they see their comrades fall in pain. Just one officer showing such force would/could have stopped many in their area/jurisdiction.

Yes, there would have been the most-crazies-of-the-crazies that would have proceeded to advance.
But there would have been much fewer idiots to deal with, and these specific terrorists could have been handled in a more "forceful" manner, if necessary.
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« Reply #2777 on: January 07, 2021, 06:39:00 PM »


Kasparov has experience with people like Trump.

Kasparov's book was very good.
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« Reply #2778 on: January 07, 2021, 06:41:41 PM »


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« Reply #2779 on: January 07, 2021, 06:43:28 PM »




I wonder how often these charges are brought against *anyone*. 
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« Reply #2780 on: January 07, 2021, 06:46:59 PM »

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« Reply #2781 on: January 07, 2021, 06:48:14 PM »



I thought Trump cultists thought Blue Lives Matter?

So do I have this right.  Police kill unarmed black people but don't do anything when armed Trump thugs kill them?
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« Reply #2782 on: January 07, 2021, 06:48:33 PM »

I lived a few blocks away from CHAZ.  I never feared for my life or safety.  I never thought they would have any impact on anything.

It was a self-contained mess.  They took over a very small area of the city and turned it into their own private s--thole, and the city shamefully allowed them to do it, due to severe political pressure from the extreme leftists/communists/anarchists (who are not part of the Democratic Party big tent).

The only thing that worried me about CHAZ was that Democrats were not condemning it with sufficiently strong rhetoric, and that Republicans would point to it as "what the Democrats want."  Which is exactly what happened.  CHAZ cost us House seats.  But that is a political concern and has nothing to do with CHAZ's tangible goals or accomplishments.

Contrast this with the attack on the Capitol yesterday.  The Trump Mob was there to overturn the results of a democratic election.  They professed a desire to attack, and even murder, congressmen.  What do you think would've happened if they got a hold of Nancy Pelosi?  Or Ilhan Omar?  We'd be talking about the first sitting congressman to be murdered since Leo Ryan was murdered at Jonestown.

The Trump Mob destroyed more property in two hours than CHAZ destroyed in two months.  They looted more property in two hours than any of the Seattle riots over the last six months.  Trust me, I've walked by some of the businesses that have had windows smashed and stuff stolen.

CHAZ was horrible and stupid.  All the BLM-related riots were horrible and stupid.  It all pales in comparison to Donald Trump's attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Also, Democrats condemned CHAZ and condemned the riots.  Democratic mayors and governors deployed police and the national guard to attack rioters and defend businesses.  Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

So enough with this false equivalency BS.  If that's the best talking point Fox can come up with, y'all are in deep trouble.  Cause even you don't believe it deep down.
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« Reply #2783 on: January 07, 2021, 06:55:05 PM »

Also, Democrats condemned CHAZ and condemned the riots.  Democratic mayors and governors deployed police and the national guard to attack rioters and defend businesses.  Meanwhile half of the Republican Party approves of the riots, and their conspiracy theory was validated by a majority of the Republican House caucus just hours after the attack!

Imagine if, after 9/11, a majority of House Democrats had voted in favor of demolishing the World Trade Center, and John Kerry and Hillary Clinton called for a special commission to investigate if jet fuel melts steel beams.
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« Reply #2784 on: January 07, 2021, 06:56:13 PM »


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« Reply #2785 on: January 07, 2021, 06:58:16 PM »

I have to update the death count again, damn it.

I hate this President.
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« Reply #2786 on: January 07, 2021, 07:07:52 PM »



I thought Trump cultists thought Blue Lives Matter?

So do I have this right.  Police kill unarmed black people but don't do anything when armed Trump thugs kill them?
This is so sad if true. I presume it is likely the one officer that was reportedly in critical condition after allegedly being beaten by people with pipes.
Honestly, now I'm very angry. I've been to the Capitol a few times and all my interactions with the Capitol Police have been pleasant to humorous. It's really just security force as opposed to an aggressive, investigative, militarized big city police force. The most frequent policing they have to do is arresting or escorting out people who interrupt committee meetings. Unfortunately, it will likely change after all of this. Resulting in even more distance (in this case literally) between the American people and their legislative branch.
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« Reply #2787 on: January 07, 2021, 07:10:15 PM »



And here we go /Joker

already up!

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« Reply #2788 on: January 07, 2021, 07:11:18 PM »



And here we go /Joker

Only about...thirty hours late.

How Presidential!
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« Reply #2789 on: January 07, 2021, 07:12:24 PM »


And here we go /Joker

Only about...thirty hours late.

How Presidential!

Yes, that ship has sailed.
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« Reply #2790 on: January 07, 2021, 07:12:37 PM »

The video:

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« Reply #2791 on: January 07, 2021, 07:15:04 PM »

Finally a real concession; I'm surprised. Or at least close as we'll ever get.
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« Reply #2792 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:14 PM »

The video:


WTF was that?
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« Reply #2793 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:44 PM »



And here we go /Joker

already up!



There can be no unity with fascist scum.
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« Reply #2794 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:51 PM »

Finally a real concession; I'm surprised. Or at least close as we'll ever get.


I refuse to watch his video.  What does he say, in the way of concession?
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« Reply #2795 on: January 07, 2021, 07:17:57 PM »

Video is actually good tbh.  Low expectations I know but surprisingly no bull **** in it.
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« Reply #2796 on: January 07, 2021, 07:18:02 PM »
« Edited: January 07, 2021, 07:22:32 PM by ByeDon/Harris »

The video:



"I immediately deployed the National Guard..." -> Lie.

(on him challenging the election results)
"My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote, in so doing I was fighting to defend American democracy..." -> Lie.
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« Reply #2797 on: January 07, 2021, 07:18:51 PM »

If you're still a Republican after this...even if you dislike Trump and even if you voted against him...if you're still a Republican, you need to do some soul searching.
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« Reply #2798 on: January 07, 2021, 07:20:09 PM »

Finally a real concession; I'm surprised. Or at least close as we'll ever get.


I refuse to watch his video.  What does he say, in the way of concession?
There’s a weird jump cut where obviously something was edited out in the middle, and then he says, “there will be a new administration,” and then at the very end he refers to his presidency in the past tense. Sooo yeah, as close to a concession as we’re gonna get.
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« Reply #2799 on: January 07, 2021, 07:20:16 PM »



Hard to feel sorry for them. They knew who they were going to work for.

Amen.
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