Quebec Municipal Elections 2013

[Hatman 🍁]

Nothing wrong with anti-car campaigning

Not all electors agree, through.

True. It's quite poisonous actually. One of the reasons Ford won in Toronto, on a pro-cars anti-bikes/public transit campaign.

[lilTommy]

Nothing wrong with anti-car campaigning

Not all electors agree, through.

True. It's quite poisonous actually. One of the reasons Ford won in Toronto, on a pro-cars anti-bikes/public transit campaign.

The problem is is ISN'T an anti-car campaign, it's very much a pro-public transit (in PMs case, LRT) pro-bike/pedestrian move. In TO there was never a move to kill off lanes of car traffic and i doubt there is in MTL. BUT conservatives will say it's an attack on cars, individuality and lie to no end about public transit (again, see TO and Ford lying about LRT, comparing it to St. Clair).

[MaxQue]

Nothing wrong with anti-car campaigning

Not all electors agree, through.

True. It's quite poisonous actually. One of the reasons Ford won in Toronto, on a pro-cars anti-bikes/public transit campaign.

The problem is is ISN'T an anti-car campaign, it's very much a pro-public transit (in PMs case, LRT) pro-bike/pedestrian move. In TO there was never a move to kill off lanes of car traffic and i doubt there is in MTL. BUT conservatives will say it's an attack on cars, individuality and lie to no end about public transit (again, see TO and Ford lying about LRT, comparing it to St. Clair).

Well, before being in politics, he was literally anti-car, through.

[lilTommy]

Nothing wrong with anti-car campaigning

Not all electors agree, through.

True. It's quite poisonous actually. One of the reasons Ford won in Toronto, on a pro-cars anti-bikes/public transit campaign.

The problem is is ISN'T an anti-car campaign, it's very much a pro-public transit (in PMs case, LRT) pro-bike/pedestrian move. In TO there was never a move to kill off lanes of car traffic and i doubt there is in MTL. BUT conservatives will say it's an attack on cars, individuality and lie to no end about public transit (again, see TO and Ford lying about LRT, comparing it to St. Clair).

Well, before being in politics, he was literally anti-car, through.

to be honest, so am i but i wouldn't campaign that way... but i'm not Bergeron, he's a little "zany" for me. But i do generally favour PMs policies.

[MaxQue]

Côté admitted to being behind anti-PM and Bergeron robocalling.

I'm pretty sure than Côté will finish 3rd or 4th, at this point.

[MaxQue]

Côté admitted to being behind anti-PM and Bergeron robocalling.

I'm pretty sure than Côté will finish 3rd or 4th, at this point.

And, as it's not enough, he is suspected of soliciting municipal public servants for donations to his campaign. Is he a Coderre plant trying to destroy Harel and Vision Montréal?

[Hatman 🍁]

There is a left wing party running in Gatineau called "Action Gatineau". Three incumbent councillors are running for the party (two in the Aylmer sector, and 1 in the north end of Hull), and they're running a whole slate. They're the only party running candidates.

The current mayor (Marc Bureau) I have been told is also left wing, but I imagine is more left of centre- certainly to the centre of this new party.

[Hatman 🍁]

Every city with over 75,000 people has at least one political party.

Would someone be able to tell me about some of them?

[MaxQue]

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sujet/Elections-Montreal-2013/2013/10/15/004-sondage-crop-elections-municipales-montreal.shtml

Another Montreal poll:

Coderre 41
Joly 24
Bergeron 21
Côté 11

[RogueBeaver]

Oh God, some l'Actualite guy spinning this as Jolymanie. *Facepalm*

[RogueBeaver]

Great blogpost from Michel Auger on the Montreal mayoral race. Council could be quite the clusterfark.

[MaxQue]

Great blogpost from Michel Auger on the Montreal mayoral race. Council could be quite the clusterfark.

I alread said it earlier. There is too many local teams and incomplete slates to have a majority. I doubt than the winning party will have 50% of seats.

[MaxQue]

Two independant candidates joined the Joly team, one of them being an incumbent (Sainte-Marie in Ville-Marie borough) which left Projet Montréal.

[RogueBeaver]

Sacha Trudeau enthusiastically endorses Joly, who worked on his brother's campaign. Given that Sacha's one of his brother's closest advisors, somehow I doubt he's going rogue here. Plus speculation that Joly will use her run as a springboard to a federal nomination... fun times. I hope someone got Coderre's reaction to this. Were I a tabloid editor I'd rewrite the headline as "Joly reçoit l'appui de Trudeau", just to troll Coderre.

[Poirot]

Let's say Joly uses her run as a springboard. Does she hope her fellow-candidate (election Montreal's translation for colistier) doesn't win in her district? I don't knoe if it's a choice or obligation to take the place of the fellow-candidate, but if she passes the chance to be a councillor it will show she is not interested in municipal politics and just likes notoriety.

Joly's fellow-candidate is Marie-Claude Johnson, running in Notre-Dame de Grâce electoral district. She is the daugther of Pierre-Marc. She worked for two provincial Liberal cabinet ministers and has done lobby for a shale gas firm.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/montreal/201309/05/01-4686457-la-fille-de-pierre-marc-johnson-candidate-pour-melanie-joly.php

[RogueBeaver]

Doesn't have to be 2015. Also, dynastimania!

[Poirot]

In Montreal election, Coderre loses city councillor candidate for Saint-Léonard east. Allegation is when he was councillor with Union Montréal in 2010 he offered money as bribe to another Union Montréal councillor at the time (who is now running for Coaliton Montréal) to get a good price on a piece of land.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/coderre-tosses-st-leonard-candidate-over-bribery-allegations-1.1519023

[Poirot]

There is a left wing party running in Gatineau called "Action Gatineau". Three incumbent councillors are running for the party (two in the Aylmer sector, and 1 in the north end of Hull), and they're running a whole slate. They're the only party running candidates.

The current mayor (Marc Bureau) I have been told is also left wing, but I imagine is more left of centre- certainly to the centre of this new party.

I think the party was formed one year ago. I am bit surprised by the negative view of having a party on the municipal level. Action Gatineau seems to be out on defensive about that.

Mid-October poll had Bureau 51%, Pedneaud-Jobin (Action Gatineau) 34% and Lemay 13%.
Looking at 2009 results I see the councillor in district 1 (Aylmer) has won by 1 vote. The district limits have changed this time. Perhaps he could become the leader of Action Gatineau after the election, being one of the creator of the party. His opponent has received advice by mayor Bureau (maybe he wouldn't mind to get rid of him?).

The mayoral candidate Pedneaud-Jobin is councillor for Buckingham (number 18). So Action gatineau is at both ends. The party tried to have the system of fellow-candidate for losing mayoral candidate to sit in council adopted but city council did not approve it.

Gatineau is Quebec's 4th largest city by population (265,000).
They have a website with all the candidates by district with a picture.
http://www.gatineau.ca/page.asp?p=la_ville/election_municipale_2013/districts_electoraux

Map of the 18 electoral districts:
http://www.gatineau.ca/docs/histoire_cartes_statistiques/cartes/carte_districts_electoraux_2013.pdf

[Hatman 🍁]

There is a left wing party running in Gatineau called "Action Gatineau". Three incumbent councillors are running for the party (two in the Aylmer sector, and 1 in the north end of Hull), and they're running a whole slate. They're the only party running candidates.

The current mayor (Marc Bureau) I have been told is also left wing, but I imagine is more left of centre- certainly to the centre of this new party.

I think the party was formed one year ago. I am bit surprised by the negative view of having a party on the municipal level. Action Gatineau seems to be out on defensive about that.

Mid-October poll had Bureau 51%, Pedneaud-Jobin (Action Gatineau) 34% and Lemay 13%.
Looking at 2009 results I see the councillor in district 1 (Aylmer) has won by 1 vote. The district limits have changed this time. Perhaps he could become the leader of Action Gatineau after the election, being one of the creator of the party. His opponent has received advice by mayor Bureau (maybe he wouldn't mind to get rid of him?).

The mayoral candidate Pedneaud-Jobin is councillor for Buckingham (number 18). So Action gatineau is at both ends. The party tried to have the system of fellow-candidate for losing mayoral candidate to sit in council adopted but city council did not approve it.

Gatineau is Quebec's 4th largest city by population (265,000).
They have a website with all the candidates by district with a picture.
http://www.gatineau.ca/page.asp?p=la_ville/election_municipale_2013/districts_electoraux

Map of the 18 electoral districts:
http://www.gatineau.ca/docs/histoire_cartes_statistiques/cartes/carte_districts_electoraux_2013.pdf

Thanks for this. My friend's parents live in Aylmer District. They are pitting the council race in their district as an "NDP vs Liberal" race that will foreshadow the next federal election in the Hull-Aylmer riding.

Would you be able to do a rundown of the other major cities?   

[RogueBeaver]

One of Joly's candidates was interviewed by police about a history of domestic violence. Not only that, he says he has nothing to be ashamed of. It'd be nice if at least people with criminal records could be weeded out of the recruitment process.

He's now been arrested because of a domestic violence incident. Unclear whether this is a new one.

[Poirot]

Joly probably took almost anyone interested since she has candidates only for half of all positions in the election. This one is in Saint-Léonard east for borough council. (the Coderre candidate withdrew from Saint-Léonard east city council race).

While on the subject of trouble candidate, I don't think we mentioned Joly dropped a candidate on the Plateau Mont-Royal after the financial services authority will investigate the candidate for her financial offering. That is after Joly defended her for being a transexual who has been doing escort service. 

[Poirot]

Quebec City, second biggest city with 516,000 of population. Régis Labeaume is the current mayor and there was never any doubt that he will win. He is very popular. Finished 4th in the world's best mayor last year. He leads his opponent 67% to 18% in the last poll I saw. His party Equipe Labeaume should easily win a vast majority of council seats.

Last election only two people, I think they were running as independents, elected were not from Equipe Labeaume out of 27 city councillors. In this election the number of councillors has been reduced and map redrawn to 21 districts. Also 6 boroughs instead of 8.

Borough map
http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/img/img_carteville.jpg

Labeaume has decided to run against city unions. He wants to cut employees costs by 6%, make them work 37.5 hours instead of 35, make employees contribute to the city workers pension fund deficit and not have taxpayers get all the bill. He is also lobbying to get change in labour laws to maybe get power of lockout by the city, or maybe the power for the city to decide of the work conditions of city employees after a year of negotiation if there is no agreement.

He will say he got a mandate for this. (he was always expected to win big so I don't know if the issue of labour relations influences the result).

Trying to resist the Labeaume tornado is Démocratie Québec. A new party led by David Lemelin. The two non-Labeaume incumbents are running with this party, There are also two incumbents who quit the Labeaume team because they felt he didn't tolerate discussion, running for the party.

There are very few non-Labeaume candidate who will be elected since for councillors the poll had it 58% to 21% in favor of Equipe Labeaume candidates. The best borough for Démocratie Québec candidates is La Cité-Limoilou, they still trail but by 7% (45% to 38%). The two non-Labeaume team elected last time (Yvon Bussières and Anne Guérette) are in this borough. The district limits have changed though.

I have a hard time finding a map of all the new districts, but this district map serve to show where Démocratie Québec have a chance. (right bottom corner shows the five dictricts of the borough).
http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/electionsmunicipales/carte_electorale/docs/carte_district_02.pdf

Yvon Bussières is running in dictrict 2 (Montcalm-Saint-Sacrement). Anne Guérette is running in district 1 (Cap-aux-Diamants) which includes the old city. In district 5 the party is running a woman who left the Labeaume team during the last mandate.

West of district 2, there is dictrict 9 (Saint-Louis-Sillery). It goes west up to the Quebec City bridge. Paul Shoiry is a former mayor of Sillery so he could have a chance. This is in the Sainte-Foy-Sillery-Cap-Rouge borough and Démocratie Québec is polling its second best result there at 28%.

District 12 (Cap-Rouge-Laurentien) is also in that borough, at the western edge of the city. This is where the mayor candidate Lemelin has his fellow-candidate so he could sit in council if he wins the council seat. The Labeaume candidate there is a student who went to court during the student strike for his right to get classes. There are also three independent candidates so the non-Labeaume vote could be split.

http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/electionsmunicipales/carte_electorale/docs/carte_district_12.pdf
     
In Quebec City, 14% of people have already voted during advanced voting day.
   

[Hatman 🍁]

Good stuff

For those interested in maps, I found this: http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/english/municipal/electoral-map/map-municipalities-divided-into-districts.php?mun=64008#

[RogueBeaver]

La Presse unsurprisingly endorses Coderre. I'd certainly vote for him if I lived in the city proper.

[lilTommy]

Is Coderre trying to blackmail the Hasidic community or Is he just selling his list of candidates? It's a pretty brash way to campaign, it feels too "your with us or your against us and we won't forget"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/denis-coderre-video-sparks-criticism-1.2324970

Oh; only one municipal list/party has a full slate, Project Montreal has 102 candidates, the next closest is Equipe Coderre (basically Union) at 99, Coalition Mtl (basically Vision) 96... then Joly with 55. So I think any of the first three could theoretically win a majority, realistically no.

Piper Huggins, former PM councillor in Jeanne-Mance in Plateau is now running under Coalition banner, Must have had a major falling out, was an NDP candidate in 2000 and 2004 Federals