The fight to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg megathread

[freepcrusher]

Come to think about it, here is a completely dystopian scenario even if it might also be a big hot take.

If the courts get politicized so much, I would say that it is far from impossible that a Supreme Court judge could get murdered within the next 2 decades; with the objective of changing the makeup of the point, even if it has to be by gunpoint.

And I imagine that, while they probably have reasonable enough security, it must be nowhere near as much as say the President. Maybe not even as much as the average House Rep? (and one got shot not too long ago)

How much security do SC judges have around them?

Alex Jones said he thought that happened in 2016. The fact that he was in a non-densely populated area where it would be easy to get in and out makes it a possibility - but the fact that this was AFTER the 2014 midterms is why I don't believe it. That and the fact that he was rumored to be a heavy smoker.

[lfromnj]

I pitched this idea in a different thread but is it possible Dems if they get a big enough trifecta ca. amend the constitution that the Supreme Court membership can’t go pass the amount of numbered circuit courts as was originally tradition so after Puerto Rico and DC get state hoods we get 3 new judges for the Supreme Court to make up for Mitch’s garbage while also making a tit for tat on SC size harder?

To amend the Constitution you need 2/3rd of the House and Senate... and adoption of 2/3 of the states. So the Dems would need 66 seats in the senate (more if states are added) That isn't happening  this cycle even if the Democrats win all the competitive states and add two more states.  Also that wouldn't accomplish anything as the GOP could take power and expand the number of circut courts

Not only that but 3/4 of state legislatures. The only way to amend the constitution is through bipartisan compromise.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I pitched this idea in a different thread but is it possible Dems if they get a big enough trifecta ca. amend the constitution that the Supreme Court membership can’t go pass the amount of numbered circuit courts as was originally tradition so after Puerto Rico and DC get state hoods we get 3 new judges for the Supreme Court to make up for Mitch’s garbage while also making a tit for tat on SC size harder?

Amending the Constitution concerning the Supreme Court ain't happening except on a bipartisan basis. An amendment would require the approval of 39 of the then  52 States.  In any case, all your proposed amendment would do is give Republicans even more of  a reason to split up the 9th circuit.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I pitched this idea in a different thread but is it possible Dems if they get a big enough trifecta ca. amend the constitution that the Supreme Court membership can’t go pass the amount of numbered circuit courts as was originally tradition so after Puerto Rico and DC get state hoods we get 3 new judges for the Supreme Court to make up for Mitch’s garbage while also making a tit for tat on SC size harder?

Amending the Constitution concerning the Supreme Court ain't happening except on a bipartisan basis. An amendment would require the approval of 39 of the then  52 States.  In any case, all your proposed amendment would do is give Republicans even more of  a reason to split up the 9th circuit.

What about including splitting up the 9th circuit as a bone to conservatives as part of a judicial reform package that primarily focuses on packing/reforming the Supreme Court?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I pitched this idea in a different thread but is it possible Dems if they get a big enough trifecta ca. amend the constitution that the Supreme Court membership can’t go pass the amount of numbered circuit courts as was originally tradition so after Puerto Rico and DC get state hoods we get 3 new judges for the Supreme Court to make up for Mitch’s garbage while also making a tit for tat on SC size harder?

Amending the Constitution concerning the Supreme Court ain't happening except on a bipartisan basis. An amendment would require the approval of 39 of the then  52 States.  In any case, all your proposed amendment would do is give Republicans even more of a reason to split up the 9th circuit.

What about including splitting up the 9th circuit as a bone to conservatives as part of a judicial reform package that primarily focuses on packing/reforming the Supreme Court?

I have yet to see any proposals that actually solve the politicization of the court. This one doesn't even try. All it attempts is to give political cover to the Democrats adding more seats to the Supreme Court while hopefully limiting the ability of Republicans to do the same. It's doubtful it achieves the former, but it certainly fails at the latter.

[Pyro]

Just in case there was any disingenuous doubt...

"Amy Coney Barrett Signed Letter Urging End of ‘Barbaric’ Roe v. Wade"

[Indy Texas]

For those unfamiliar, MEK is a celibacy cult of Iranian exiles based in Albania known for their sophisticated information operations that make up probably 90+% of anti-Iranian regime posts on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1311071847107223557

Barrett wrote that she was one of five lawyers on a team that represented the National Council of Resistance of Iran and its U.S. representative office from 2000 to 2001 in their petition to review the State Department’s foreign-terrorist-organization designation.

The NCRI is affiliated with the Mujahideen-e Khalq (MEK), a onetime militant group comprising Iranian exiles who oppose Iran’s clerical regime. The Obama administration removed the group from the U.S. government’s list of terrorist organizations in 2012. The MEK has faced accusations of cultlike practices, which the organization has disputed as smears.

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The MEK formed as a militant group in opposition to Iran’s monarchy but was forced into exile after the 1979 revolution that toppled the shah. The State Department designated the MEK as a foreign terrorist organization in 1997, citing its involvement in the killing of Americans in Iran during the 1970s. The department, which also cited a 1992 incident in which five men with knives invaded the Iranian mission to the United Nations in New York, said the NCRI “functioned as part of the MEK” and “supported the MEK’s acts of terrorism.”

So she worked at a law firm and was given a task ?

I don't think it's any more disqualifying than anything else from her past, but after years of hearing about how every case that Hillary and Kamala were involved in as lawyers somehow represented their deep-held beliefs about right and wrong, I like to imagine what would have happened if a Democrat had nominated someone for SCOTUS who had represented (and presumably got money from) a group called the People's Mujahideen of Iran that had this logo:

The American conservative movement's embrace of a Marxist group (even if much of that is aesthetic LARPing at this point) that once counted Saddam Hussein as a major benefactor and that was not and still is not pro-American simply because they hate the mullahs too is peak Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend.

Of course, one of the profoundly stupid strategic errors of the Iranian Left in the 1970s was to ally with archconservative religious clerics. I realize they had few good options and their first order concern was removing the Shah, but, really, what the hell did they expect to happen afterward? In a way, it was a particularly dark example of how often leftist university students and intellectuals in major cities claim to speak for and understand the working class and the rural peasantry and then, when it's too late, realize they really didn't understand what those people actually wanted after all.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1311689358295085056

[Indy Texas]

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1311689358295085056

Literally a couple of days after Trump mocked his opponent for going to the University of Delaware.

[Santander]

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1311689358295085056

This is literally the last thing we should be caring about right now.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Crt packing is less a priority now, since it will still allow Conservatives to control the Crt, it will still be 6/5 Conservative, Ginsburg seat seat was critical to changing Crt balance and it's lost

Crt packing isnt that big of a deal we are a center right nation and we aren't going back to Jim Crow, but changings in abortions and ACA and adoptions will be mild. It's all about Citizens United and the Unions and Roberts wasn't a sure get to change his mind on the law. Moreso now, since he has Barrett

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Come to think about it, here is a completely dystopian scenario even if it might also be a big hot take.

If the courts get politicized so much, I would say that it is far from impossible that a Supreme Court judge could get murdered within the next 2 decades; with the objective of changing the makeup of the point, even if it has to be by gunpoint.

And I imagine that, while they probably have reasonable enough security, it must be nowhere near as much as say the President. Maybe not even as much as the average House Rep? (and one got shot not too long ago)

How much security do SC judges have around them?

[lfromnj]

If Pence is acting president can he still tie break or does that go to Pelosi?

[Ferguson97]

If Pence is acting president can he still tie break or does that go to Pelosi?

The vice presidency would be vacant. To confirm a new one, you need a majority yes vote from the House and the Senate. Not a chance would the House confirm a new VP.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

ACB met with Trump yesterday (Thursday). She will now have to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she tests positive for COVID-19 or not. Republicans might not be able to get her on the Supreme Court before the election.

[Sir Mohamed]

ACB met with Trump yesterday (Thursday). She will now have to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she tests positive for COVID-19 or not. Republicans might not be able to get her on the Supreme Court before the election.

If the confirmation fails due to this, it would be a huge irony. But couldn't they just interview her by video. I'm not sure the senate rules require personal testimony or whether they could change said rules.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

ACB met with Trump yesterday (Thursday). She will now have to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she tests positive for COVID-19 or not. Republicans might not be able to get her on the Supreme Court before the election.

If the confirmation fails due to this, it would be a huge irony. But couldn't they just interview her by video. I'm not sure the senate rules require personal testimony or whether they could change said rules.

Trump & ACB also met with Mitch and a group of Senate Republicans. They would all have to quarantine but who knows maybe they'll still ram her through before the election.

[NewYorkExpress]

ACB met with Trump yesterday (Thursday). She will now have to go into quarantine for 14 days no matter if she tests positive for COVID-19 or not. Republicans might not be able to get her on the Supreme Court before the election.

They could just skip the hearing and committee vote and go right to a floor vote, in theory.

[emailking]

Can't she just testify remotely?

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Never underestimate the depravity and evilness of Mitch McConnell.

https://mobile.twitter.com/senatemajldr/status/1312042678217998338

[Indy Texas]

Would be great if the confirmation got pushed past the election because Trump’s Typhoid Mary Super Spreader behavior deprived the Senate of a quorum for weeks.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1312055925352665089
Republicans just have no shame.

[Badger]

Can't she just testify remotely?

Mitch one doubtedly Institute the rules to allow it to occur. Ditto for covid positive senators being able to vote remotely. Nothing matters other than a means to an end.

[lfromnj]

You would need >3 covid positive senators anyway., Any GOP defections would just abstain to vote match like Murkowski did with Kavanaugh.

[Santander]

You would need >3 covid positive senators anyway., Any GOP defections would just abstain to vote match like Murkowski did with Kavanaugh.

Didn't know you were at Charlottesville. Would've invited you for a beer afterwards. German, of course.