The fight to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg megathread

[SnowLabrador]

The vast majority of "never Trump" Republicans only oppose Trump as a person and not his actual policies, nor the authoritarianism he desires. Let there be no doubt about that.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1316850122089693184
Romney a Yes

Romney a Hack

Romney literally during his speech announcing he will be voting to impeach Trump said he agrees with Trump on the vast majority of policy issues ,

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-speech-transcript-110849

Hack agrees with King of Hacks on many policy issues

How is it hackish to oppose Trump while supporting his policies. I think Trump has done a great job on the issue of taxes, deregulation, judges, energy etc and I am not gonna start opposing things Id otherwise support just cause Trump is supporting them lol

Anyone who is a Republican or Republican-leaning or just opposed to the current leadership of the Democratic Party in any significant way is a "hack."

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1316850122089693184
Romney a Yes

#welcomegoodbyetotheresistance

[Mr. Illini]

https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1316850122089693184
Romney a Yes

Romney a Hack

Romney literally during his speech announcing he will be voting to impeach Trump said he agrees with Trump on the vast majority of policy issues ,

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-speech-transcript-110849

Hack agrees with King of Hacks on many policy issues

How is it hackish to oppose Trump while supporting his policies. I think Trump has done a great job on the issue of taxes, deregulation, judges, energy etc and I am not gonna start opposing things Id otherwise support just cause Trump is supporting them lol

I was referring to Romney and Trump, not you. Saying that Romney isn't a hack because he agrees with Trump a lot, who is the ultimate hack, isn't much of a defense.

[OSR stands with Israel]

https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1316850122089693184
Romney a Yes

Romney a Hack

Romney literally during his speech announcing he will be voting to impeach Trump said he agrees with Trump on the vast majority of policy issues ,

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-speech-transcript-110849

Hack agrees with King of Hacks on many policy issues

How is it hackish to oppose Trump while supporting his policies. I think Trump has done a great job on the issue of taxes, deregulation, judges, energy etc and I am not gonna start opposing things Id otherwise support just cause Trump is supporting them lol

I was referring to Romney and Trump, not you. Saying that Romney isn't a hack because he agrees with Trump a lot, who is the ultimate hack, isn't much of a defense.

Romney isn’t a hack

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1316850122089693184
Romney a Yes

Romney a Hack

Romney literally during his speech announcing he will be voting to impeach Trump said he agrees with Trump on the vast majority of policy issues ,

In the last several weeks, I have received numerous calls and texts. Many demand that, in their words, “I stand with the team.” I can assure you that that thought has been very much on my mind. I support a great deal of what the President has done. I have voted with him 80% of the time. But my promise before God to apply impartial justice required that I put my personal feelings and biases aside. Were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented, and disregard what I believe my oath and the Constitution demands of me for the sake of a partisan end, it would, I fear, expose my character to history’s rebuke and the censure of my own conscience

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/mitt-romney-impeachment-vote-speech-transcript-110849

Hack agrees with King of Hacks on many policy issues

How is it hackish to oppose Trump while supporting his policies. I think Trump has done a great job on the issue of taxes, deregulation, judges, energy etc and I am not gonna start opposing things Id otherwise support just cause Trump is supporting them lol

I was referring to Romney and Trump, not you. Saying that Romney isn't a hack because he agrees with Trump a lot, who is the ultimate hack, isn't much of a defense.

Trump does not seem to be the "ultimate hack" in any special way. 1. being hackish isn't inherently bad, 2. in this era of polarization it's dubious to use the term 'ultimate hack' to refer to pretty much any politician, and 3. hackishness is quite common in these times.

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Well, Mitt managed to be a #resistance hero for 8 months.

He didn't grovel well enough to become Trump's Secretary of State.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Feinstein thanking Lindsey Graham for ramming ACB through committee is a perfect illustration of what the Senate has become. Republicans bash Democrats over the head repeatedly and Democrats search for some semblance of the old days of precedent and compromise in it.

Strip her of her committee assignments. This is a bigger betrayal than Lieberman and the public option.

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Feinstein has a terrible record from becoming mayor after her political ally assassinates the previous mayor plus one of the first openly LGBT politicians. Then she fought hard against domestic partnership and raised a confederate flag. She's the sole Senate Democrat still around to have voted for the Bush tax cuts. Her husband made a killing wartime profiting after her vote for the Iraq war. She voted to fast track TPP and supported SOPA. Time and time again, she has been on the wrong side of history.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

history will record that two old senate colleagues hugging each other is the moment fascism descended on America.

[Estrella]

In fairness to Feinstein (never thought I'd be defending such an impressively worthless conservadem, but here we are), it might be just her senility doing that. She's 87, ffs. Of course, that raises the question of why the hell is she still in the Senate.

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She'll be 91 years old when she's next up for re-election so probably not needed.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Romney isn't a "hack" exactly, but he's a right-winger whose vote to convict Trump had almost nothing to do with policy, a bit to do with moral principle, and a lot to do with personal hostility. Nobody who's followed the totality of his career, especially his openly Thatcherite 2012 campaign, would believe otherwise.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Romney isn't a "hack" exactly, but he's a right-winger whose vote to convict Trump had almost nothing to do with policy, a bit to do with moral principle, and a lot to do with personal hostility. Nobody who's followed the totality of his career, especially his openly Thatcherite 2012 campaign, would believe otherwise.

I naively thought that maybe Romney would grow a heart and realize the implications of a Roe/Casey repeal or, even worse, the removal of protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

Nope. He's still an asshole. One good vote based on personal animosity doesn't change that.

Nor does doing the really hard thing and simply saying "Black lives matter".

[S019]

Feinstein has a terrible record from becoming mayor after her political ally assassinates the previous mayor plus one of the first openly LGBT politicians. Then she fought hard against domestic partnership and raised a confederate flag. She's the sole Senate Democrat still around to have voted for the Bush tax cuts. Her husband made a killing wartime profiting after her vote for the Iraq war. She voted to fast track TPP and supported SOPA. Time and time again, she has been on the wrong side of history.

TPP is good, but sure go on...

[OSR stands with Israel]

Romney isn't a "hack" exactly, but he's a right-winger whose vote to convict Trump had almost nothing to do with policy, a bit to do with moral principle, and a lot to do with personal hostility. Nobody who's followed the totality of his career, especially his openly Thatcherite 2012 campaign, would believe otherwise.

Impeachment has nothing to do with policy and he literally said during his impeachment vote that he agrees with Trump on over 80% of his policies so his vote has nothing to do with that.

I dont see whats wrong with that at all really, and its silly that people on here think that people who vote with Trump over 80% of the time cant claim to oppose him lol. If I were in the Senate my Trumpscore would probably be over 85% as well

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Suddenly it makes sense why Trump's DoJ never investigated Feinstein for insider trading.

Sure, she's demonized by the gun lobby, but why would the administration drive out one of its useful idiots?

[Pericles]

It's not like people should be voting for impeachments based on policy differences anyway.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Thinking out loud here: McConnell's timeline for confirming Barrett by Oct. 27 depends on Dems blocking the GOP's second covid relief bill that he is bringing to the floor right before Barrett. But what if Dems don't do that?

Strategy A (don't block the covid bill until a later stage):

Oct. 22: Covid vote: Cloture on motion to proceed (LET THIS PASS)
Oct. 24: motion to proceed
Oct. 26: Cloture vote on bill (block here)
later on Oct. 26: cloture filed on Barrett
Oct. 28: Cloture vote on Barrett
Oct. 30: Final vote on Barrett

This obviously wouldn't stop McConnell. Even if Schumer is playing games with various motions, McConnell still has several days to spare here.

The even wilder strategy - let the GOP actually pass their covid bill:

Oct. 22: Covid vote: Cloture on motion to proceed
Oct. 24: motion to proceed
Oct. 26: Cloture vote on bill
Oct. 28: final vote on bill
later on Oct. 28: cloture filed on Barrett
Oct. 30: Cloture vote on Barrett
Nov. 1 (?!?) : Final vote on Barrett

This would get a little dicey for McConnell - Nov. 1 doesn't offer much lead time if there's some sort of quorum issue or if someone gets sick, and Schumer might be able to use up a day through motions and such anyways. And eventually, GOP senators up for re-election have to head home for their victory parties or concession speeches. This could conceivably delay Barrett to after the election. It would not stop her confirmation - but it would make it the first vote of the lame duck rather than the last vote before the election.

Is it worth it for dems to do this?

[Xing]

You mean people heaping praise on Romney for voting for *one* of the articles (when it was clear his vote wouldn't be decisive, no less) might have been jumping the gun in thinking he was suddenly an ally? Say it ain't so!

[Stockdale for Veep]

Logically, if you vote to remove the President, but they remain, shouldn't you then oppose 100% of their agenda going forward?

[Progressive Pessimist]

You mean people heaping praise on Romney for voting for *one* of the articles (when it was clear his vote wouldn't be decisive, no less) might have been jumping the gun in thinking he was suddenly an ally? Say it ain't so!

It's more like grading on a curve as far as the current Republican Party goes.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Logically, if you vote to remove the President, but they remain, shouldn't you then oppose 100% of their agenda going forward?

I mean you could take on that tactic, but no one in the Senate is doing that - every dem voted for multiple Trump District Judges in September. The fact that the president should be removed does not necessarily equal all of his policies being bad [depending on your viewpoint] if you consider the policies on the merits.

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You mean people heaping praise on Romney for voting for *one* of the articles (when it was clear his vote wouldn't be decisive, no less) might have been jumping the gun in thinking he was suddenly an ally? Say it ain't so!

It's more like grading on a curve as far as the current Republican Party goes.

Most politicians in both parties deserve an F.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

You mean people heaping praise on Romney for voting for *one* of the articles (when it was clear his vote wouldn't be decisive, no less) might have been jumping the gun in thinking he was suddenly an ally? Say it ain't so!

It's more like grading on a curve as far as the current Republican Party goes.

Most politicians in both parties deserve an F.