The Governor's Plantation: Governor Daniel Adams

[DownWithTheLeft]

For that matter, one could say that the rejection of the Regional assembly in of itself shows our open-mindedness to alternative viewpoints.

I wouldn't say that as much as our inability to strong-arm as much as people accuse us of

[Хahar 🤔]

Irrelevant.

Yes, you are.

lol, you're hilarious

[Bacon King]

Though it's irrelevant I suppose, my official legal opinion is that the voting booth opened at the earliest possible stated time, at midnight central time, friday morning. This is because the Southeast Constitution, Article VII Clause 1 specifies that Southeastern elections "shall conclude at the first occurence of 11:59pm Central Time after 60 hours of voting has occurred." No matter what the case, this will be tonight. The election booth is stated to be open for 72 hours, and 72 hours before 11:59 central time was midnight, friday morning! Voila, a potential legal headache completely averted

[Purple State]

Quick question: if the DS constitution says that you may not post twice in a voting booth thread, how can the governor's vote count?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Quick question: if the DS constitution says that you may not post twice in a voting booth thread, how can the governor's vote count?

I assume you mena post twice, unless he did actually vote twice, in which case the opening of the voting booth doesn't  count as a post.

[Purple State]

Quick question: if the DS constitution says that you may not post twice in a voting booth thread, how can the governor's vote count?

I assume you mena post twice, unless he did actually vote twice, in which case the opening of the voting booth doesn't  count as a post.

I changed it just as you posted, so it actually says it in what you quoted. Late nights lead to typos for me.

But yes, that would be my question. If the Governor starts the thread and posts his vote, is that not an invalidated vote? That should be changed in the Constitution.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Quick question: if the DS constitution says that you may not post twice in a voting booth thread, how can the governor's vote count?

I assume you mena post twice, unless he did actually vote twice, in which case the opening of the voting booth doesn't  count as a post.

I changed it just as you posted, so it actually says it in what you quoted. Late nights lead to typos for me.

But yes, that would be my question. If the Governor starts the thread and posts his vote, is that not an invalidated vote? That should be changed in the Constitution.

I would think and hope not. But it should be clarified in the Constitution.

[Bacon King]

There is a longstanding precedent that the election thread creator is allowed to create a separate ballot post for himself.

[Purple State]

There is a longstanding precedent that the election thread creator is allowed to create a separate ballot post for himself.

I know that and I don't plan on asking that the Governor's votes be discounted. I just wanted to make sure that it was brought to the attention of the region.

[Bacon King]

The southeast has literally had forty elections under these regulations and the governors vote has never been invalidated! There may be a specific exemption in statute somewhere but regardless it is not a problem.

[Associate Justice PiT]

The southeast has literally had forty elections under these regulations and the governors vote has never been invalidated! There may be a specific exemption in statute somewhere but regardless it is not a problem.

     Well, the law is intended to be equitable. The clause likely would not be interpreted as a prohibition against the Governor voting unless explicitly stated as such, since essentially prohibiting a public official from ever casting a ballot as long as he holds that office is far from equitable.

[Bacon King]

BTW guys, heres what the initiative results look like:

Bailout Refusal: fails, 3-5-1
Dirty South: fails, 3-6
Magistrate Powers: passes, 8-1
Regional legislature: fails, 5-4
Governor’s plantation:  passes, 8-0-1
KOTPB Monument: fails, 1-7-1
Southeast Removal:  fails, 1-8
Special Election: passes, 6-3
Magistrate Monument:  fails, 2-7

note also that the Special Election Act is actually an amendment, not an act, but it did have enough votes to pass.

[Purple State]

As the GM, I am happy to see that the Southeast turned down massive spending sprees on unnecessary monuments, while also accepting the stimulus funds.

By the way, your budget report has been posted so you can take proper action to address any shortcomings.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Emergency vote time (although we will need 1 more vote from someone else)

[Associate Justice PiT]

Emergency vote time (although we will need 1 more vote from someone else)

     Indeed, if the Legislature Amendment gets one more vote, we could accurately say that it would have passed if you & SPC had cast valid ballots.

[Bacon King]

There is no reason or cause for an emergency election here.

[SPC]

There is no reason or cause for an emergency election here.

Except that the ballots of some voters were eliminated that may have influenced the election.

[Bacon King]

Including the two invalidated ballots would not have changed the results.

[Daniel Adams]

Bacon King is right. I promised to hold an emergency election only if the invalidated votes would change the outcome, and they would not. I suppose it could be reproposed again, however.

The Magistrate Title and Powers Amendment, Governor's Plantation Act, and Why the Need for Special Elections Act? have passed.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Including the two invalidated ballots would not have changed the results.

+FloridaRep who did not vote gives an 8-4 number, if Gov. Adams has assurances that FloridaRep will vote I urge him to hold an emergency initative, otherwise I will just have citizens propose the emergency

[Bacon King]

Including the two invalidated ballots would not have changed the results.

+FloridaRep who did not vote gives an 8-4 number, if Gov. Adams has assurances that FloridaRep will vote I urge him to hold an emergency initative, otherwise I will just have citizens propose the emergency

How about, +DaveHawk who was unable to vote because he was out of town over the weekend

[DownWithTheLeft]

Including the two invalidated ballots would not have changed the results.

+FloridaRep who did not vote gives an 8-4 number, if Gov. Adams has assurances that FloridaRep will vote I urge him to hold an emergency initative, otherwise I will just have citizens propose the emergency

How about, +DaveHawk who was unable to vote because he was out of town over the weekend

Well then I guess everyone can have another chance to vote

[Bacon King]

Including the two invalidated ballots would not have changed the results.

+FloridaRep who did not vote gives an 8-4 number, if Gov. Adams has assurances that FloridaRep will vote I urge him to hold an emergency initative, otherwise I will just have citizens propose the emergency

How about, +DaveHawk who was unable to vote because he was out of town over the weekend

Well then I guess everyone can have another chance to vote

So what do you do when it fails again?

[DownWithTheLeft]

So what do you do when it fails again?

I have a feeling it will pass, otherwise probably do what everyone accuses me of doing anyone and bring in some new voters to make sure it passes.  This legislation is supported by the majority and vital to the region, it cannot be stopped by this purely political ploy.

[Daniel Adams]

So what do you do when it fails again?

I have a feeling it will pass, otherwise probably do what everyone accuses me of doing anyone and bring in some new voters to make sure it passes.  This legislation is supported by the majority and vital to the region, it cannot be stopped by this purely political ploy.

The emergency initiative provision has been abused in the past, and I want to ensure it is only used for emergencies, as it properly should. This is not a "political ploy": I strongly support the idea of the legislature, but I must adhere to the Constitution and my previous statements (which you didn't object to at the time). You could, however, get 35% of Dirty Southerners to back this emergency initiative, as the Constitution stipulates.