Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution (Passed)

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

That has my backing, and the backing of the AIAL.

[Marokai Backbeat]

     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

Perhaps a month for Senate and two months for President?

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

I think, instead, allow the Regions to set requirements along those guidelines.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

I think, instead, allow the Regions to set requirements along those guidelines.

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Better?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Yes, much better

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

Perhaps a month for Senate and two months for President?

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

     I don't know. One of my constituents suggested the idea, but he also suggested longer down times. I need to ask him how he feels about one & two months.

[Marokai Backbeat]

     Maybe also require a certain time period before one can become Senator or President.

Perhaps a month for Senate and two months for President?

Also, the bit about regional offices can be removed if someone objects to telling regions who can or can't hold their offices.

     I don't know. One of my constituents suggested the idea, but he also suggested longer down times. I need to ask him how he feels about one & two months.

I decided to make it two and three months instead. I'm always open to suggestions but I think that my last post is a suitable change to this amendment.

[Purple State]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

[Bacon King]

I don't see the point in raising requirements for office. People aren't going to be voting for newbies to be Senator or whatever anyway so it really just gives the amendment here unnecessary baggage. I oppose if it was friendly.

Having said that I'm definitely in favor of heavier restrictions. I would not deem a month wait excessive.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

Are non-senators allowed to post here?

Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that it'd probably be a good idea to give the absentee voting it's own amendment/law since there will (most likely) be trouble making the other part  pass, and there's no reason why this change shouldn't pass just because the other part fails.

 

[Marokai Backbeat]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

Are non-senators allowed to post here?

Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that it'd probably be a good idea to give the absentee voting it's own amendment/law since there will (most likely) be trouble making the other part  pass, and there's no reason why this change shouldn't pass just because the other part fails. 

You're free to post here as long as it's constructive and doesn't interfere with Senate business.

I suspect, though, you're right. I would prefer to leave the absentee voting situation separate.

[afleitch]

Any changes to participation requirements should be considered in light of any new constitutional changes as this is an amendment to what may be a shortly defunct constitution. Whatever is decided should be structured in a way that will allows it to be easily transferrable

[Associate Justice PiT]

I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

Are non-senators allowed to post here?

Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that it'd probably be a good idea to give the absentee voting it's own amendment/law since there will (most likely) be trouble making the other part  pass, and there's no reason why this change shouldn't pass just because the other part fails. 

You're free to post here as long as it's constructive and doesn't interfere with Senate business.

I suspect, though, you're right. I would prefer to leave the absentee voting situation separate.

     I agree. If you have one element of controversy in an amendment, it's good to not make other things fail as well by including them.

[Brandon H]

I'm the constituent that suggested to Pit a time requirement for office holding as well. I would suggest 6 months rather than 3 for President. I was working on the amendments already. The key difference though is the version I was working on is 2 months for Senate / 6 months for President from the date of their first registration in Atlasia, where as the form listed above sounds like 2 or 3 months from when they actually registered on the forum. I'm wondering if that is something that should be considered.

[Purple State]

I'm the constituent that suggested to Pit a time requirement for office holding as well. I would suggest 6 months rather than 3 for President. I was working on the amendments already. The key difference though is the version I was working on is 2 months for Senate / 6 months for President from the date of their first registration in Atlasia, where as the form listed above sounds like 2 or 3 months from when they actually registered on the forum. I'm wondering if that is something that should be considered.

I don't think we need to go overboard on the time limits. At a certain point we have to put trust in the hands of the voters too.

Any changes to participation requirements should be considered in light of any new constitutional changes as this is an amendment to what may be a shortly defunct constitution. Whatever is decided should be structured in a way that will allows it to be easily transferrable

I wouldn't bank anything we do on a potential new constitution. By the level activity recently in there, I'd be amazed if we end up with anything new. I am leaning more towards just fine-tuning our current version now.

[MasterJedi]

So.... more debate or shall I open the final vote?

[Marokai Backbeat]

So.... more debate or shall I open the final vote?

Grant me a moment of stupidity.

As long as this is what we're voting on. Reflecting on it, I realized that I made a more formal proposal to change this the first time, but ended up erasing those posts twice because of requests to make more changes to it first, and then I just ended up posting it in response to Ben. If I have to be more technical and proposey about it, I'll post it again first.

[afleitch]

Intersting this if it is passed and goes to a nationwide vote, given the potential of a court case regarding matters similar to these.

[MasterJedi]

So.... more debate or shall I open the final vote?

Grant me a moment of stupidity.

As long as this is what we're voting on. Reflecting on it, I realized that I made a more formal proposal to change this the first time, but ended up erasing those posts twice because of requests to make more changes to it first, and then I just ended up posting it in response to Ben. If I have to be more technical and proposey about it, I'll post it again first.

Yes, that's the current final amendment. Since it seems you want to make changes go ahead, I won't open the vote for awhile.

[Хahar 🤔]

I noticed Atlasia before I joined. If I had joined now, I would've been run out on a rail.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Alright, let's just get some final tweaks in on that. I want to take Brandon's advice and extend the length of time it takes until you can become president, and define them in number of days instead of months, since that could be slightly confusing, I suppose.

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