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Vepres
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« Reply #500 on: August 30, 2009, 11:03:03 AM »

Yeah the RPP is going down because some guy no one ever heard of said so!  Better book because I think Antonio is one of the most releveant, respected, and knowing of all Atlasians.

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party (well I guess Ben isn't that but I can see why Ben left)

I know that you use to be an *sshole with anyone who says something you don't agree with or makes something that doesn't pleas you, but all this hatred against those who left ( all are attention whores, of course ! Tongue ) make me think you're less optimistic that you want us to believe.

If you want to be really philosophical, everybody is an attention whore to an extent Tongue
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« Reply #501 on: August 30, 2009, 12:29:36 PM »

I heard a rumor of some people wanting to leave the RPP and form a new party.

For some reason I was thinking of that as well.
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« Reply #502 on: August 30, 2009, 12:35:32 PM »

I heard a rumor of some people wanting to leave the RPP and form a new party.

For some reason I was thinking of that as well.

It was a pretty open discussion yesterday. Don't know what's happened to it now.
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« Reply #503 on: August 30, 2009, 12:35:44 PM »

I'm actually incredibly optimistic, we will win the presidential race, its not like the voters that defected are going to be voting for Lief over our candidate

Unless maybe another candidate will run who can take potential voters from an RPP candidate to give Lief a secured victory.
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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #504 on: August 30, 2009, 12:36:33 PM »

I'm actually incredibly optimistic, we will win the presidential race, its not like the voters that defected are going to be voting for Lief over our candidate

Unless maybe another candidate will run who can take potential voters from an RPP candidate to give Lief a secured victory.
As long as they preferenced the RPP candidate ahead of Lief it wouldn't matter.  Just like my candidacy did nothing to hurt Bgwah
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« Reply #505 on: August 30, 2009, 02:24:41 PM »

I'm actually incredibly optimistic, we will win the presidential race, its not like the voters that defected are going to be voting for Lief over our candidate

Unless maybe another candidate will run who can take potential voters from an RPP candidate to give Lief a secured victory.
As long as they preferenced the RPP candidate ahead of Lief it wouldn't matter.  Just like my candidacy did nothing to hurt Bgwah

Of course it didnt. It only helped
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Marokai Backbeat
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« Reply #506 on: August 30, 2009, 03:48:22 PM »

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party

Yeah that's totally a great way to make people like your party.
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« Reply #507 on: August 30, 2009, 04:13:03 PM »

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party

Yeah that's totally a great way to make people like your party.

Don't worry, he's not chairman. So things are COMPLETELY different.
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« Reply #508 on: August 30, 2009, 04:14:48 PM »

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party

Yeah that's totally a great way to make people like your party.

Don't worry, he's not chairman. So things are COMPLETELY different.

Oh, silly me Tongue
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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #509 on: August 30, 2009, 06:02:27 PM »

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party

Yeah that's totally a great way to make people like your party.
The RPP can do without people who don't want to work toward the goal of the party.  As we saw, they are likely to leave and betray the party.  I warned against this as early as June
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #510 on: August 30, 2009, 06:09:25 PM »

Let me know when someone who isn't a selfish attention whore leaves the party

Yeah that's totally a great way to make people like your party.
The RPP can do without people who don't want to work toward the goal of the party.  As we saw, they are likely to leave and betray the party.  I warned against this as early as June

DWTL, Vepres was NOT one of those people. I think we both know that.
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« Reply #511 on: August 30, 2009, 06:13:00 PM »

Did he not betray the party for absolutley no good reason? Yeah, 100%
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #512 on: August 30, 2009, 06:15:53 PM »

Did he not betray the party for absolutley no good reason? Yeah, 100%

Vepres has made it clear that he handled the situation in a way that he is not particularly proud of. He was attacked while he was with us, now he is attacked without us. He is not a veteran, he is still new, and we need to give him a fair shot to be himself and redeem himself for what you might perceive as wrongdoing. We've all made mistakes, and we'll all make more.
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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #513 on: August 30, 2009, 06:18:42 PM »

Did he not betray the party for absolutley no good reason? Yeah, 100%

Vepres has made it clear that he handled the situation in a way that he is not particularly proud of. He was attacked while he was with us, now he is attacked without us. He is not a veteran, he is still new, and we need to give him a fair shot to be himself and redeem himself for what you might perceive as wrongdoing. We've all made mistakes, and we'll all make more.
One of the main goals of the RPP as such a large party is to acquint newbies with the game and give them a footing, Vepres decided he knew what was best after about 2 weeks
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« Reply #514 on: August 30, 2009, 06:20:12 PM »

     Well, guys like Vepres & Mechaman have basically said that they will be voting the same way as before. I don't like the RPP losing people, but if it doesn't really hurt our vote share & also helps prevent Atlasia from collapsing into a two-party system, it's not that bad.
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« Reply #515 on: August 30, 2009, 06:20:58 PM »

Did he not betray the party for absolutley no good reason? Yeah, 100%

Vepres has made it clear that he handled the situation in a way that he is not particularly proud of. He was attacked while he was with us, now he is attacked without us. He is not a veteran, he is still new, and we need to give him a fair shot to be himself and redeem himself for what you might perceive as wrongdoing. We've all made mistakes, and we'll all make more.
One of the main goals of the RPP as such a large party is to acquint newbies with the game and give them a footing, Vepres decided he knew what was best after about 2 weeks

We should still work with them and not crucify them. It's better for the party to not burn bridges.
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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #516 on: August 30, 2009, 06:22:25 PM »

I'm not saying to burn bridges, I'm simply saying that it was childish for Vepres to leave the party and then claim he caused others to leave as well.  More childish was RB for using our help to get in and then absconding, and the DA was absurd for welcoming him with open arms
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Vepres
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« Reply #517 on: August 30, 2009, 06:26:50 PM »

I'm not saying to burn bridges, I'm simply saying that it was childish for Vepres to leave the party and then claim he caused others to leave as well.  More childish was RB for using our help to get in and then absconding, and the DA was absurd for welcoming him with open arms

Did you read my explanation, it was a poorly worded statement.

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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #518 on: August 30, 2009, 06:27:33 PM »

I'm not saying to burn bridges, I'm simply saying that it was childish for Vepres to leave the party and then claim he caused others to leave as well.  More childish was RB for using our help to get in and then absconding, and the DA was absurd for welcoming him with open arms

Did you read my explanation, it was a poorly worded statement.

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I see no reason why you wouldn't rejoin the RPP then.
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Vepres
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« Reply #519 on: August 30, 2009, 06:28:31 PM »

I'm not saying to burn bridges, I'm simply saying that it was childish for Vepres to leave the party and then claim he caused others to leave as well.  More childish was RB for using our help to get in and then absconding, and the DA was absurd for welcoming him with open arms

Did you read my explanation, it was a poorly worded statement.

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I see no reason why you wouldn't rejoin the RPP then.

My saying I caused others to leave was very poorly worded, I don't feel I can return to the party, however.
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« Reply #520 on: August 30, 2009, 06:30:03 PM »

Of all to leave the RPP for the DA, I think Rowan and Vepres are the best fits, and Vepres is a very reasonable and pragmatic guy who, though I disagree with him alot, is just fine in the DA.

In my opinion, anywho.
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« Reply #521 on: August 31, 2009, 07:58:59 AM »

I'm actually incredibly optimistic, we will win the presidential race

Yes, that is indeed the definition of "incredibly optomistic".
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Vepres
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« Reply #522 on: August 31, 2009, 08:08:14 AM »

Anyway, DWTL, I left because I was being attacked for being myself. I just got sick of it, and I just feel more at home in the DA at the moment. Besides, it's not like I'm suddenly going to vote straight JCP or anything like that.
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« Reply #523 on: August 31, 2009, 08:09:27 AM »

Anyway, DWTL, I left because I was being attacked for being myself. I just got sick of it, and I just feel more at home in the DA at the moment. Besides, it's not like I'm suddenly going to vote straight JCP or anything like that.

You don't need to defend yourself anymore, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you anyway.
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Vepres
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« Reply #524 on: August 31, 2009, 04:42:44 PM »

Anyway, DWTL, I left because I was being attacked for being myself. I just got sick of it, and I just feel more at home in the DA at the moment. Besides, it's not like I'm suddenly going to vote straight JCP or anything like that.

You don't need to defend yourself anymore, your friends don't need it, and your enemies won't believe you anyway.

You're right.
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