The Atlasian Sentinel

[Sewer]

our private forum has the IP checks

Prove it.

[DownWithTheLeft]

our private forum has the IP checks

Prove it.

Prove what?  That none of the IPs match?  What do you want a list of everyone's IP?  (why do I ask of course you do because that's you)

[Sewer]

our private forum has the IP checks

Prove it.

Prove what?  That none of the IPs match?  What do you want a list of everyone's IP?  (why do I ask of course you do because that's you)

If you don't show me that means your lying.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Hamilton might win by virtue of useless drones who will fade into irrelevancy until the next time they're needed.

Isn't that how the JCP wins elections?

No, our voters are active in other forum parts, unlike RPP drones.

Hashemite, that is a grat comparison than, sadly, most Atlasians won't catch.

     So? They are inactive in Atlasia, which has been a consistent issue explored by all real attempts at registration reform. Nevertheless, no good solution has ever emerged.

We haven't ever registered large numbers of mysterious newbies who spam their way to the required number of posts. Surely you can understand why some of us, and it's clearly not just those of us in the JCP, find it suspicious.

     I'm also sure you can understand why I don't think much of your suspicions when you & your party members make it plainly clear that you don't care at all about activity in Atlasia. Of course, I'm more inclined to address any concerns of non-JCPers.

I don't believe I was criticizing the activity of RPP members...

I try to recruit as many established forumers as I can to the JCP & Atlasia. Some of them choose not to get terribly involved beyond voting. But even then, many of them do chime in every once in a while, like Alcon and Lunar. I even had BRTD and Boris both come to me telling me they opposed the JCP name change. How would those guys even be aware of that if they never read this forum? And really, when the RPP constantly floods the forum with spamming newbies to vote for them, I cannot help but feel it is necessary to ask all members of my party to vote to counter them and even the playing field.

But what I'm saying is that I think there is something fishy with the latest batch of RPP recruits. And clearly just about everybody who isn't in the RPP feels the same way. But at this point we can only speculate.

     Eh, you're probably my favorite JCPer, so I'll be more cordial now than I was before.

     The RPP has been especially aggressive in its recruiting efforts as of late in order to level the playing field, actually. As I'm sure you've noticed, no member of the RPP has ever won an at-large special election. At some point, we realized that if we just sat around & didn't bother to expand, we may as well not even attempt to compete in the special elections.

     For the most part, I am not aware of offsite recruiting, though my power in the RPP is not a fraction of what it once was. The RPP is large enough now that most of its operations occur out of my purview, & I am proud of that. After all, it was largely out of my efforts that it became such a self-sufficient entity. I do however find it unlikely that recent registrees on the forum lean so strongly to the right.

     Also, we try to get many of our members involved in Atlasia. Obviously we don't get the chance to get everyone involved, but if we think that we can win a given seat while running a candidate with little or no previous experience in Atlasia, we will often approach them about running. If we can get someone genuinely interested in participating in Atlasia, that makes me happy.

[bgwah]

^ Well, this forum in general tends to lean a bit to the left. When you look at these national elections, you see that when a more moderate person such as yourself ran you basically tied us... But DWTL and Duke lost not because they were members of the RPP, but because they were too conservative for your average Atlasian.

The fact that the left is so divided, into two parties, and arguably three (I consider a majority of the DA to be more leftist than rightist) would seemingly level the playing field for the RPP, somewhat.

[Associate Justice PiT]

^ Well, this forum in general tends to lean a bit to the left. When you look at these national elections, you see that when a more moderate person such as yourself ran you basically tied us... But DWTL and Duke lost not because they were members of the RPP, but because they were too conservative for your average Atlasian.

The fact that the left is so divided, into two parties, and arguably three (I consider a majority of the DA to be more leftist than rightist) would seemingly level the playing field for the RPP, somewhat.

     I worked extremely hard in order to just get a tie. I literally PM'd half the JCP making the case for why they should vote for me, & as well as anyone outside of the RPP who I deemed even remotely likely to vote for me. I was sabotaged by an incredible run of bad luck, though, including something like five of my supporters getting their votes invalidated.

     Also, preferential voting means that splits in each wing don't mean too much. They only really matter when party bosses start micromanaging the vote, like when Purple State got elected at the expense of Lief.

[Purple State]

     Also, preferential voting means that splits in each wing don't mean too much. They only really matter when party bosses start micromanaging the vote, like when Purple State got elected at the expense of Lief.

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that together with SPC's dive to get DWTL in was the purest example of what is wrong with the preferential method. But it adds a level of excitement that far outweighs the issues.

[Alexander Hamilton]

     Also, preferential voting means that splits in each wing don't mean too much. They only really matter when party bosses start micromanaging the vote, like when Purple State got elected at the expense of Lief.

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit that together with SPC's dive to get DWTL in was the purest example of what is wrong with the preferential method. But it adds a level of excitement that far outweighs the issues.

Kind of like the electoral college. People like seeing the states pop up on the map.

[bgwah]

^ Well, this forum in general tends to lean a bit to the left. When you look at these national elections, you see that when a more moderate person such as yourself ran you basically tied us... But DWTL and Duke lost not because they were members of the RPP, but because they were too conservative for your average Atlasian.

The fact that the left is so divided, into two parties, and arguably three (I consider a majority of the DA to be more leftist than rightist) would seemingly level the playing field for the RPP, somewhat.

     I worked extremely hard in order to just get a tie. I literally PM'd half the JCP making the case for why they should vote for me, & as well as anyone outside of the RPP who I deemed even remotely likely to vote for me. I was sabotaged by an incredible run of bad luck, though, including something like five of my supporters getting their votes invalidated.

     Also, preferential voting means that splits in each wing don't mean too much. They only really matter when party bosses start micromanaging the vote, like when Purple State got elected at the expense of Lief.

Sabotage suggests something sinister---there was nothing sinister about three of your own voters invalidating their votes.

Your side turned the absentee voting booth into the general voting booth, and I felt like we lost a lot of votes because we did not intend to go into full campaign mode so early. But we had to to have a chance.

[Associate Justice PiT]

^ Well, this forum in general tends to lean a bit to the left. When you look at these national elections, you see that when a more moderate person such as yourself ran you basically tied us... But DWTL and Duke lost not because they were members of the RPP, but because they were too conservative for your average Atlasian.

The fact that the left is so divided, into two parties, and arguably three (I consider a majority of the DA to be more leftist than rightist) would seemingly level the playing field for the RPP, somewhat.

     I worked extremely hard in order to just get a tie. I literally PM'd half the JCP making the case for why they should vote for me, & as well as anyone outside of the RPP who I deemed even remotely likely to vote for me. I was sabotaged by an incredible run of bad luck, though, including something like five of my supporters getting their votes invalidated.

     Also, preferential voting means that splits in each wing don't mean too much. They only really matter when party bosses start micromanaging the vote, like when Purple State got elected at the expense of Lief.

Sabotage suggests something sinister---there was nothing sinister about three of your own voters invalidating their votes.

Your side turned the absentee voting booth into the general voting booth, and I felt like we lost a lot of votes because we did not intend to go into full campaign mode so early. But we had to to have a chance.

     Well, I was using it as a figure of speech.

     I seem to recall Lief leading wire-to-wire in the absentee voting booth & me doing the same in the regular voting booth. I know that I did not mass PM RPPers about voting until the regular voting booth opened. If anything, I lost a lot of votes by going into full campaign mode too late. By the time I really started PMing people, I had lost several crucial votes that I think I could have gotten otherwise.

[SPC]

The Atlasian Sentinel

Duke Enters the At-Large Senate Race
By Vepres

Former Dirty South Governor AHDuke has entered the at-large Senate election as a write-in candidate. He is the third RPP member to enter the race, a risky move because the party managed only to win one seat in the last regular at-large election. Interestingly, he seems to have more support from DA and JCP voters than either SPC or RowanBrandon.

It appears the RPP is trying to pull of three seats, much like the DA did in April 2009. In that election, Purple State and afleitch both narrowly defeated SDP candidate Lief. If the RPP could pull off the same feat, they would have five seats, just one shy of a majority. However, the odds are slim that this will happen, despite the recent recruitment the RPP has conducted.

Duke may prove to be a formidable candidate, as he is more moderate than SPC and RowanBrandon.

Actually we would have six seats if Duke won, our first majority ever.

[afleitch]

There is a strong chance that the RPP will see all 3 elected. What counts more than anything are 1st and 2nd prefs. With the JCP and the RPP likely to preference their own (understandably) 1, 2 and in the case of the RPP, 3 then it leaves myself and Franzl in a difficult position.

[Purple State]

There is a strong chance that the RPP will see all 3 elected. What counts more than anything are 1st and 2nd prefs. With the JCP and the RPP likely to preference their own (understandably) 1, 2 and in the case of the RPP, 3 then it leaves myself and Franzl in a difficult position.

I will certainly be rooting for you and Franzl to get re-elected. I will probably hold my vote for Sunday to help out whichever one of you could use the bigger boost. I figure if everyone else can vote strategically, why not me? It would be a disservice to lose one of you in the Senate.

[Vepres]

The Atlasian Sentinel

Duke Enters the At-Large Senate Race
By Vepres

Former Dirty South Governor AHDuke has entered the at-large Senate election as a write-in candidate. He is the third RPP member to enter the race, a risky move because the party managed only to win one seat in the last regular at-large election. Interestingly, he seems to have more support from DA and JCP voters than either SPC or RowanBrandon.

It appears the RPP is trying to pull of three seats, much like the DA did in April 2009. In that election, Purple State and afleitch both narrowly defeated SDP candidate Lief. If the RPP could pull off the same feat, they would have five seats, just one shy of a majority. However, the odds are slim that this will happen, despite the recent recruitment the RPP has conducted.

Duke may prove to be a formidable candidate, as he is more moderate than SPC and RowanBrandon.

Actually we would have six seats if Duke won, our first majority ever.

Right. Fixed.

By the way, if we achieve a majority, do we select a majority leader? And will there be a minority leader among the JCP and DA? That would be interesting to say the least.

[Purple State]

The Atlasian Sentinel

Duke Enters the At-Large Senate Race
By Vepres

Former Dirty South Governor AHDuke has entered the at-large Senate election as a write-in candidate. He is the third RPP member to enter the race, a risky move because the party managed only to win one seat in the last regular at-large election. Interestingly, he seems to have more support from DA and JCP voters than either SPC or RowanBrandon.

It appears the RPP is trying to pull of three seats, much like the DA did in April 2009. In that election, Purple State and afleitch both narrowly defeated SDP candidate Lief. If the RPP could pull off the same feat, they would have five seats, just one shy of a majority. However, the odds are slim that this will happen, despite the recent recruitment the RPP has conducted.

Duke may prove to be a formidable candidate, as he is more moderate than SPC and RowanBrandon.

Actually we would have six seats if Duke won, our first majority ever.

Right. Fixed.

By the way, if we achieve a majority, do we select a majority leader? And will there be a minority leader among the JCP and DA? That would be interesting to say the least.

Well you can bet that the PPT will be a member of the RPP and I imagine DWTL will be a lot more active in influencing the Senate. You can also count on Lief exercising his veto right quite a bit, as well as long forgotten cloture votes to prevent final votes on legislation.

[DownWithTheLeft]

We could have an unofficial leader, but not an official one in the sense of the American congress.  The closest thing was when we had 5 seats and I thought I was going to be PPT

[Vepres]

I was thinking we could have an unofficial leader who would speak for the majority.

[Rowan]

I was thinking we could have an unofficial leader who would speak for the majority.

The only person that speaks for me is me, so I disagree with this idea.

[SPC]

The Atlasian Sentinel

Duke Enters the At-Large Senate Race
By Vepres

Former Dirty South Governor AHDuke has entered the at-large Senate election as a write-in candidate. He is the third RPP member to enter the race, a risky move because the party managed only to win one seat in the last regular at-large election. Interestingly, he seems to have more support from DA and JCP voters than either SPC or RowanBrandon.

It appears the RPP is trying to pull of three seats, much like the DA did in April 2009. In that election, Purple State and afleitch both narrowly defeated SDP candidate Lief. If the RPP could pull off the same feat, they would have five seats, just one shy of a majority. However, the odds are slim that this will happen, despite the recent recruitment the RPP has conducted.

Duke may prove to be a formidable candidate, as he is more moderate than SPC and RowanBrandon.

Actually we would have six seats if Duke won, our first majority ever.

Right. Fixed.

By the way, if we achieve a majority, do we select a majority leader? And will there be a minority leader among the JCP and DA? That would be interesting to say the least.

I suspect that the closest thing to a majority leader would be PPT Masterjedi.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I hope that our current PPT gets to keep his job even if the left comes out on top in this election. MasterJedi has done a good job as Senate leader if you ask me.

 

[SPC]

I hope that our current PPT gets to keep his job even if the left comes out on top in this election. MasterJedi has done a good job as Senate leader if you ask me.

 

The RPP is guarenteed to gain at least one seat in this election, so I doubt MasterJedi could possibly be hurt.

[afleitch]

I hope that our current PPT gets to keep his job even if the left comes out on top in this election. MasterJedi has done a good job as Senate leader if you ask me.

 

The RPP is guarenteed to gain at least one seat in this election, so I doubt MasterJedi could possibly be hurt.

That aside, I don't expect any challenge to him should things even remain 'as is'. He holds my support and the support of nearly everyone else too.

[Vepres]

I was thinking we could have an unofficial leader who would speak for the majority.

The only person that speaks for me is me, so I disagree with this idea.

The Atlasian Sentinel

Duke Enters the At-Large Senate Race
By Vepres

Former Dirty South Governor AHDuke has entered the at-large Senate election as a write-in candidate. He is the third RPP member to enter the race, a risky move because the party managed only to win one seat in the last regular at-large election. Interestingly, he seems to have more support from DA and JCP voters than either SPC or RowanBrandon.

It appears the RPP is trying to pull of three seats, much like the DA did in April 2009. In that election, Purple State and afleitch both narrowly defeated SDP candidate Lief. If the RPP could pull off the same feat, they would have five seats, just one shy of a majority. However, the odds are slim that this will happen, despite the recent recruitment the RPP has conducted.

Duke may prove to be a formidable candidate, as he is more moderate than SPC and RowanBrandon.

Actually we would have six seats if Duke won, our first majority ever.

Right. Fixed.

By the way, if we achieve a majority, do we select a majority leader? And will there be a minority leader among the JCP and DA? That would be interesting to say the least.

I suspect that the closest thing to a majority leader would be PPT Masterjedi.

You're probably right. I think our Senate may be too small. It would add an interesting dynamic, but 10 is too small.

[Vepres]

The Atlasian Sentinel

New GM Very Active, Yet Senators Take Little Notice
By Vepres

When GM Purple State was sworn in, people from all sides of the political spectrum celebrated. For the first time in a long time, Atlasia would have an active GM. Yet, while Purple State has performed admirably thus far, few in the government seem to take any action on the news.

Take, for example, his recent report on the healthcare bill. Not one Senator commented on it despite the fact that it was one of the most important bills signed into law in the past few Senates.

Purple State said this in the news unit:

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The only Senator to comment on the healthcare article was Senator North Carolina Yankee (RPP-NC).

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However, besides him, the Senators have given little in the way of response to the new GM"s articles. Of course, it is election season, and so the focus is on the elections, but let's not lose sight of the fact that the government must respond to the GM news or else the position is useless.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Well, two things.

One, it's an election, and usually very little is done legislatively because people are hesitant or simply unwilling to move on important legislation when there's no idea how the make-up of the Senate will end up being, so it's unfair to criticize the Senate now over activity.

Secondly, I would happily take more notice of the goings-on around here if my last few days hadn't been a stressful disaster. I promise to take more notice when I'm not dealing with house burnings.