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« Reply #1150 on: June 20, 2009, 01:09:12 PM »

This is interesting:

Editorial note: Gallup will not publish new Gallup Poll Daily tracking results Saturday, June 20. The next update will be Sunday, June 21.

I bet they got a word from Dear Leader. He didnít like their results.

Dude, it's Saturday evening.
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« Reply #1151 on: June 20, 2009, 01:25:12 PM »

This is interesting:

Editorial note: Gallup will not publish new Gallup Poll Daily tracking results Saturday, June 20. The next update will be Sunday, June 21.

I bet they got a word from Dear Leader. He didnít like their results.

Dude, it's Saturday evening.
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« Reply #1152 on: June 21, 2009, 08:26:39 AM »

Rasmussen 21 June 2009:

Approve 53% (-1)

Disapprove 46% (-)

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 32% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2. Thatís the Presidentís lowest rating to date and the first time the Presidential Approval Index has fallen below zero for Obama.

Sixty percent (60%) of Democrats Strongly Approve of the Presidentís performance but only 8% of Republicans share that view. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Republicans Strongly Disapprove.


Six months into to the job, is the honeymoon over?
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« Reply #1153 on: June 21, 2009, 08:52:26 AM »

Rasmussen 21 June 2009:

Approve 53% (-1)

Disapprove 46% (-)

Six months into to the job, is the honeymoon over?

It's over. That approval is now very close to the results of the 2008 Presidential election. Such will be adequate in 2012.

It could be the mess in Iran; the GOP finally has something to capitalize upon. As the #1 Diplomat, the President can't stir up trouble, but the Opposition Party can get away with far more stridency.  That's how democracy works.
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« Reply #1154 on: June 21, 2009, 09:26:24 AM »

Republic, and no he is being blamed for his own faults.

BTW, 53% isn't the number that would vote for him.
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« Reply #1155 on: June 21, 2009, 09:33:43 AM »

Yeah Bush was at 53% on election day 2004, but only got 51% of the vote.
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« Reply #1156 on: June 21, 2009, 09:35:13 AM »

Rasmussen 21 June 2009:

Approve 53% (-1)

Disapprove 46% (-)

Six months into to the job, is the honeymoon over?

It's over. That approval is now very close to the results of the 2008 Presidential election. Such will be adequate in 2012.

It could be the mess in Iran; the GOP finally has something to capitalize upon. As the #1 Diplomat, the President can't stir up trouble, but the Opposition Party can get away with far more stridency.  That's how democracy works.

I'm not sure if it's Iran. Rasmussen released polling data on Friday:

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Has President Obama been too aggressive in supporting the reformers in Iran, not agressive enough, of has the response been about right?

Too aggressive: 9%
Not agressive enough: 35%
About right: 43%
Not sure: 14%
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« Reply #1157 on: June 21, 2009, 09:40:24 AM »

I agree Hawk, because I saw those statistics, too.

Some people are slow learners, and may only be finding out one thing or another, recently. Some may have given him several months grace.

This is also the first day that Obama had a negative number for strongly approve/disaprove. While those aren't as telling as the total number, it does indicate that his opposition is beginning to look as strong or stronger than his current "base."

Then again, we could see Gallup heading back into the other direction with its adults poll, causing us to through our arms up in the air.
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« Reply #1158 on: June 21, 2009, 10:21:03 AM »

Does anyone have approval info for Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr from this point in their first term?
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« Reply #1159 on: June 21, 2009, 10:31:13 AM »

Does anyone have approval info for Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr from this point in their first term?

According to Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Jimmy Carter 63% (June 1977)
Ronald Reagan 59% (June 1981)
George H. W. Bush 70% (June 1989)
Bill Clinton 41% (June 1993)
George W. Bush 54% (June 2001)

Average for U.S. Presidents Since Franklin D. Roosevelt: 55%
Average for Elected Presidents' Second Quarter: 62%

Barack Obama's Most Recent Weekly Approval Rating Average: 61% (Jun 8-14, 2009)
 
Barack Obama's Term Average: 63%
 
Barack Obama's High Point: 69% (Jan 22-24, 2009)
 
Barack Obama's Low Point: 59% (several times; most recent: Jun 7-9, 2009)

Though Obama currently stands at 58%
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« Reply #1160 on: June 21, 2009, 10:37:19 AM »

Yeah Bush was at 53% on election day 2004, but only got 51% of the vote.

Much would depend Obama's Republican opponent. Someone who disapproves may well vote Obama if the Republican alternative, was, in their eyes, worse still

Much depends on the economy - and Obama's approvals could echo Reagan's. Will Obama be at 35% in Gallup come January 2011? Because that is where Reagan stood in January 1983. Things got worse with Reagan long before they improved to the point that he was re-elected in a landslide

Signs suggests that the president remains personally popular and pretty well-liked but there is, for now, decreasing confidence in aspects of his agenda
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« Reply #1161 on: June 21, 2009, 10:38:43 AM »

Does anyone have approval info for Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr from this point in their first term?

According to Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Jimmy Carter 63% (June 1977)
Ronald Reagan 59% (June 1981)
George H. W. Bush 70% (June 1989)
Bill Clinton 41% (June 1993)
George W. Bush 54% (June 2001)

So it's very stupid to use approvals to guess if a president will be reelected at this point.
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« Reply #1162 on: June 21, 2009, 11:10:45 AM »

Does anyone have approval info for Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush Jr from this point in their first term?

According to Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

Jimmy Carter 63% (June 1977)
Ronald Reagan 59% (June 1981)
George H. W. Bush 70% (June 1989)
Bill Clinton 41% (June 1993)
George W. Bush 54% (June 2001)

So it's very stupid to use approvals to guess if a president will be reelected at this point.

It's stupid to say that he will be reelected or won't be reelected.

It's not stupid to guess. The evidence just says it is not likely, given that current trends continue. The people that this hurts the most (given trends continue to the fall and next fall) are freshmen Congressmen, Corzine, and maybe even Deeds.
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« Reply #1163 on: June 21, 2009, 11:55:18 AM »


Obama's still doing well in Virginia.  I also don't think Deeds is tied too closely to Obama for it to hurt him unless Obama falls into the 40's.
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« Reply #1164 on: June 21, 2009, 12:00:24 PM »

Rasmussen 21 June 2009:

Approve 53% (-1)

Disapprove 46% (-)

Six months into to the job, is the honeymoon over?

It's over. That approval is now very close to the results of the 2008 Presidential election. Such will be adequate in 2012.

It could be the mess in Iran; the GOP finally has something to capitalize upon. As the #1 Diplomat, the President can't stir up trouble, but the Opposition Party can get away with far more stridency.  That's how democracy works.

I'm not sure if it's Iran. Rasmussen released polling data on Friday:

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Has President Obama been too aggressive in supporting the reformers in Iran, not agressive enough, of has the response been about right?

Too aggressive: 9%
Not agressive enough: 35%
About right: 43%
Not sure: 14%

I think that Iran is the first test in which the GOP has a chance as the Outsiders to be more aggressive than the President and get away with it. Those who don't have direct responsibilities for the failure of international policy can get away with much that that the Party in power can't. Obama must be more cautious, and the GOP can get with sharper expressions of solidarity with Iranian revolutionaries (and it is a revolution).  Obama has other concerns: what do Turkish, Pakistani, or Saudi leadership think? How does this influence events in Iraq and Afghanistan? Turkey, Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan all have borders with Iran, and Saudi Arabia is a near-neighbor. GOP leadership has no such concerns, having more pressing ones (namely, revival of its political chances in 2010 and 2012). Such is politics, and the GOP isn't going to roll over and play dead.  

In the short term this is a no-win situation for Obama in domestic, partisan politics.  But that's not the end of the story. It can be an unmitigated disaster for America should an anti-American government successfully crack down on a revolution to which the President has given verbal support. Obama has little to gain in the event of a successful revolution in Iran that makes Iran less hostile to the US. Of course that is short term. Long-term damage arises from a crackdown on a revolution with the establishment of rule more hostile to the United States and that decides to support anti-American violence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The long-term effects of a pro-American or less-hostile Iranian government offer much potential for good for Obama, and in that case he gets the credit for diplomatic measures that cut off support for anti-American violence in Iraq and Afghanistan.

... I am ready for the Obama Administration to be judged on its achievements more than upon promises. Isn't everyone? So far he has gone for comparatively-easy victories and gestures, which makes much more sense than putting everything on the line early.  
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« Reply #1165 on: June 21, 2009, 12:04:34 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2009, 12:06:29 PM by TrueRepublicIran »


Obama's still doing well in Virginia.  I also don't think Deeds is tied too closely to Obama for it to hurt him unless Obama falls into the 40's.

That's why I said maybe. Wink

pbrower: Again, it's not Iran. You are just making things up.
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« Reply #1166 on: June 21, 2009, 12:05:46 PM »

Gallup today:

Approve 57%(-1, lowest ever)
Disapprove 35%(+2, highest ever)
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« Reply #1167 on: June 21, 2009, 02:01:49 PM »

Hm, his approvals are still very good.
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« Reply #1168 on: June 21, 2009, 04:50:43 PM »

It looks like Obama is hovering around 55-57% approval ratings. I think as long as Obama doesn't go under 40%, he'll be fine. Then, when the economy turns around, his approval will shoot up, similar to W's approval after they captured Saddam.
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« Reply #1169 on: June 21, 2009, 05:37:15 PM »

PPP North Carolina
Approve 50%
Disapprove 43%
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« Reply #1170 on: June 21, 2009, 05:44:59 PM »

PPP North Carolina
Approve 50%
Disapprove 43%

That's about right. Obama won NC with a margin of -7 the national popular vote. His approvals hover around 57% at the moment.
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« Reply #1171 on: June 21, 2009, 05:46:12 PM »


Evidence?
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« Reply #1172 on: June 21, 2009, 05:50:48 PM »


There hasn't really been an economic recovery yet, but I'd guess that there's a VERY strong chance that the economy will rebound in the next few years before 2012, enough to boost Obama's approval ratings no matter what they are (could be 20% or 80%).
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« Reply #1173 on: June 21, 2009, 06:25:21 PM »


There hasn't really been an economic recovery yet, but I'd guess that there's a VERY strong chance that the economy will rebound in the next few years before 2012, enough to boost Obama's approval ratings no matter what they are (could be 20% or 80%).

If the economy is still in the crapper on November 6, 2012 Obamam doesnt even deserve the nomination.
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« Reply #1174 on: June 21, 2009, 06:27:25 PM »


There hasn't really been an economic recovery yet, but I'd guess that there's a VERY strong chance that the economy will rebound in the next few years before 2012, enough to boost Obama's approval ratings no matter what they are (could be 20% or 80%).

Who the hell cares about 2012?  Democrats need to be worried about 2010 right now. 
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