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« on: November 18, 2008, 08:06:08 PM »

should heroin addicts be sent to prison?
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 10:18:06 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2008, 10:23:17 PM by Earth »

Only if they're found guilty of a violent crime. Not because of selling, carrying, or buying heroin.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 10:23:48 PM »

heroin addicts should be sent to rehab
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 10:30:41 PM »

Hell no.

Our prison system is already collapsing our state budget as it is.  Prison should be used to keep violent people off the street and to deter violent crime through punishment.


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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 11:02:41 PM »

Only if they're found guilty of a violent crime. Not because of selling, carrying, or buying heroin.

even then they should be sent to rehab/detox first...
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 11:34:38 PM »

Only if they're found guilty of a violent crime. Not because of selling, carrying, or buying heroin.

even then they should be sent to rehab/detox first...

Only if it's voluntary. I don't agree with sending them to prison, but it's pointless and frankly, unethical, to sentence someone to rehab if they have no intention to quit.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 11:52:21 PM »

No. They should receive treatment.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 11:54:56 PM »

It makes no sense overfilling our prisons with harmless drug users.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 12:18:27 AM »

Only if they're found guilty of a violent crime. Not because of selling, carrying, or buying heroin.

even then they should be sent to rehab/detox first...

Only if it's voluntary. I don't agree with sending them to prison, but it's pointless and frankly, unethical, to sentence someone to rehab if they have no intention to quit.

if a heroin addict is headed to jail due having committed a violent crime, they're probably going to choose rehab first instead of subjecting themselves to withdrawal within the confines of prison...
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 12:40:24 AM »

If you committed a violent crime you shouldn't get the option of rehab.  I'm all for legalized drugs, but people shouldn't be able to use it as a crutch to stay out of jail.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 12:44:23 AM »

If you committed a violent crime you shouldn't get the option of rehab.  I'm all for legalized drugs, but people shouldn't be able to use it as a crutch to stay out of jail.

well, the violent crime would likely have been a result of the current legal status of heroin.  you don't see nicotine addicts going around beating people up in the need to satisfy a craving.

that said, I wasn't suggesting the rehab stint as a replacement for the jail sentence.  what I was suggesting is that the subject have the option of first heading to rehab to withdraw before serving the jail sentence.  and nobody would voluntarily choose to go through withdrawal in prison, nor should anybody be forced to.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 02:02:52 AM »

No - and definitely not unless they're caught doing something illegal.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 03:02:59 AM »

No ther addicts need help, but the dealers should be sent to prison.

Now if they commit  a serious crime, then yes send them to jail.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 01:05:33 AM »

Yes, but to a special rehab part.
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 03:34:23 AM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 04:17:59 PM »

Absolutely Not.. not least of all due to the need of protecting other prisoners.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 04:22:12 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2008, 06:11:52 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2008, 06:14:32 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.

Really? Then what the hell do we do other than rehab to make sure that they don't do tia gain.

BTW, I still think heroin sellers should be 100% jailed.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2008, 06:20:24 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.

Really? Then what the hell do we do other than rehab to make sure that they don't do tia gain.

BTW, I still think heroin sellers should be 100% jailed.

Well that is a good question.

Just to be a jackass:
If we don't penalize them for Heroin then people will die off and we will have more jobs.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2008, 06:22:52 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.

Really? Then what the hell do we do other than rehab to make sure that they don't do tia gain.

BTW, I still think heroin sellers should be 100% jailed.

Well that is a good question.

Just to be a jackass:
If we don't penalize them for Heroin then people will die off and we will have more jobs.

I'd lol if you sent it to the government and they adopted that plan.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2008, 06:25:17 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.

Really? Then what the hell do we do other than rehab to make sure that they don't do tia gain.

BTW, I still think heroin sellers should be 100% jailed.

Well that is a good question.

Just to be a jackass:
If we don't penalize them for Heroin then people will die off and we will have more jobs.

I'd lol if you sent it to the government and they adopted that plan.

I would to.
But if I was a libritarian I would not care unless they hurt someone directly.
Demacrates would want them to get help.
Republicains want them to be put in jail.
Lets find some nuetral ground! Dole help me.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2008, 06:28:14 PM »


That's not a bad answer, but could you elaborate?  And what would be the difference from "rehab prison" and "rehab."

/honestly curious

I think they should be sent to prison and serve until they are cured the first time (yes, they must attend therapy like all other drug users.) But if they go back to their old ways and do it again, the sentence shall be slightly harsher.

going to jail is not that bad to them. that is why when criminals get out they do something bad so they can go back in jail cause they don't know how to act when they get out.

Really? Then what the hell do we do other than rehab to make sure that they don't do tia gain.

BTW, I still think heroin sellers should be 100% jailed.

Well that is a good question.

Just to be a jackass:
If we don't penalize them for Heroin then people will die off and we will have more jobs.

I'd lol if you sent it to the government and they adopted that plan.

I would to.
But if I was a libritarian I would not care unless they hurt someone directly.
Demacrates would want them to get help.
Republicains want them to be put in jail.
Lets find some nuetral ground! Dole help me.

Maybe Rehab them, and if they mess up put them in jail?
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2008, 06:29:27 PM »

Maybe Rehab them, and if they mess up put them in jail?

But we are just waisting our money.
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2008, 08:20:34 PM »

im generally anti-war on drugs but there is zero chance i can defend the really addictive ones like heroin/crack/pcp/tobacco
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