Virginia 2009 Megathread

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Looks like 1997 redux. The real tragedy is Shannon's crap campaign.

Shannon's campaign has started to come to life with a new campaign manager, but at this point he's going to be sunk by McDonnell's coattails.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I don't understand why anyone would care at this race at all, its incredibly boring and uninteresting.  The candidates are bland, the issues are bland, and frankly its not even much of a race

I think it's interesting that McDonnell and Deeds almost have the urban-rural split switched along partisan lines, with McDonnell being quite a strong Republican in cities and suburbs while Deeds has been outperforming most Democrats in rural VA.

That doesn't make for an interesting race.  NJ is an interesting race for a governor's seat that actually means something.  I mean seriously the governor of VA is a do-nothing job compared to the governor of NJ

I lost all my respect for NJ when the Toricelli thing happened. And McGreevey. It's just another mob state. Although I hope Christie's term goes well, that way he can replace Lautenberg in 2014.

[Psychic Octopus]

I going to ask this question. Is it over Virginians? Has McDonnell Won, or are we in for a close election come September and October?

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I going to ask this question. Is it over Virginians? Has McDonnell Won, or are we in for a close election come September and October?

Virginians don't really tune into elections until after Labor Day (they happen every damn year here, after all), but it's a really crappy position for Deeds to be in going into the fall. I said two or three pages ago: It's not over, especially since Deeds has come back from oblivion twice before, but it's a heck of a hill to climb.

[War on Want]

I going to ask this question. Is it over Virginians? Has McDonnell Won, or are we in for a close election come September and October?

Virginians don't really tune into elections until after Labor Day (they happen every damn year here, after all), but it's a really crappy position for Deeds to be in going into the fall. I said two or three pages ago: It's not over, especially since Deeds has come back from oblivion twice before, but it's a heck of a hill to climb.

Yeah Deeds still has a good chance to come back. It would be stupid to declare this race over.

[Psychic Octopus]

Both actually seem like alright people. I'm supporting McDonnell but I also like Deeds's background and it also seems like he would make a good governor too.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I don't understand why anyone would care at this race at all, its incredibly boring and uninteresting.  The candidates are bland, the issues are bland, and frankly its not even much of a race

I think it's interesting that McDonnell and Deeds almost have the urban-rural split switched along partisan lines, with McDonnell being quite a strong Republican in cities and suburbs while Deeds has been outperforming most Democrats in rural VA.

That doesn't make for an interesting race.  NJ is an interesting race for a governor's seat that actually means something.  I mean seriously the governor of VA is a do-nothing job compared to the governor of NJ

Well actually this election they are both pretty similar. Both state GOP party's choose the best possible candidates, both have stong appeals to people we have been losing in recent elections, both are leading by strong margins in states we have been losing ground in. If they flip its possible that both will flip by a similar margin.

I have been in Virginia, but only for a short time, couple of hours. I have never been to Jersey however. Though of course considering my recent health problems I did consider going there to get a black market organ, however I doubt they deal in intestines, so it didn't seem practical.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I don't understand why anyone would care at this race at all, its incredibly boring and uninteresting.  The candidates are bland, the issues are bland, and frankly its not even much of a race

Because unlike New Jersey, Virginia actually matters.

[You kip if you want to...]

I don't understand why anyone would care at this race at all, its incredibly boring and uninteresting.  The candidates are bland, the issues are bland, and frankly its not even much of a race

I think it's interesting that McDonnell and Deeds almost have the urban-rural split switched along partisan lines, with McDonnell being quite a strong Republican in cities and suburbs while Deeds has been outperforming most Democrats in rural VA.

That doesn't make for an interesting race.  NJ is an interesting race for a governor's seat that actually means something.  I mean seriously the governor of VA is a do-nothing job compared to the governor of NJ

I'm sure that the above, bolded statement is blasphemous to atleast a quarter of the forum (see below).

[Tender Branson]

Rasmussen to be out with a new VA poll @ 5pm ...

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I don't understand why anyone would care at this race at all, its incredibly boring and uninteresting.  The candidates are bland, the issues are bland, and frankly its not even much of a race

Because unlike New Jersey, Virginia actually matters.

Not to be grim, but Chris Christie could wind up appointing a U.S. senator.

[Rowan]

Rasmussen VA-Gov

McDonnell 47%
Deeds 38%

W/ Leaners:

McDonnell 49%
Deeds 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/virginia/election_2009_virginia_governor_election

[Landslide Lyndon]

Rasmussen VA-Gov

McDonnell 47%
Deeds 38%

W/ Leaners:

McDonnell 49%
Deeds 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/virginia/election_2009_virginia_governor_election

Actually I expected worse numbers since:

1)It's Rasmussen.

2)I read that there were recently some signs of panic coming from Deeds's campaign.

[Ronnie]

Rasmussen VA-Gov

McDonnell 47%
Deeds 38%

W/ Leaners:

McDonnell 49%
Deeds 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/virginia/election_2009_virginia_governor_election

Actually I expected worse numbers since:

1)It's Rasmussen.

2)I read that there were recently some signs of panic coming from Deeds's campaign.

Since when is Rasmussen bad?

[Bono]

Actually, in this race Rasmussen has consistently reported narrower leads than other firms.

[War on Want]

Rasmussen VA-Gov

McDonnell 47%
Deeds 38%

W/ Leaners:

McDonnell 49%
Deeds 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2009/virginia/election_2009_virginia_governor_election

Actually I expected worse numbers since:

1)It's Rasmussen.

2)I read that there were recently some signs of panic coming from Deeds's campaign.

Since when is Rasmussen bad?

They're bad on off election years in reading public opinion but when it comes to midterm elections they are pretty good.

[MatthewZD]

Could Deeds have pulled a "Mondale in '84" moment? 

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/DEED13_20090812-215206/285714/

In an online chat with the Richmond Times Dispatch, Deeds said that he would sign a bill that calls for a tax increase for transportation funding rather than cut spending elsewhere. 

This was after the recent Rasmussen poll.  It'll be interesting to see poll numbers in light of this comment. 

[Tender Branson]

New Washington Post (Aug. 11-14) poll out today:

Registered Voters:

McDonnell: 47%
Deeds: 40%

Likely Voters:

McDonnell: 54%
Deeds: 39%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_081609.html

[Rowan]

So the paper that doesn't like IVR polls, comes out with a poll showing the same results as two other IVR polls(SUSA and PPP).

[Ronnie]

This race is looking really good for us.

I'm starting to get a little nervous about NJ, though.

[Brittain33]

Could Deeds have pulled a "Mondale in '84" moment? 

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/DEED13_20090812-215206/285714/

In an online chat with the Richmond Times Dispatch, Deeds said that he would sign a bill that calls for a tax increase for transportation funding rather than cut spending elsewhere. 

This was after the recent Rasmussen poll.  It'll be interesting to see poll numbers in light of this comment. 

Is that actually an unpopular position in NoVa? I thought the tax revolt had more than run its course in the state and that's why Democrats have been doing well.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

New Washington Post (Aug. 11-14) poll out today:

Registered Voters:

McDonnell: 47%
Deeds: 40%

Likely Voters:

McDonnell: 54%
Deeds: 39%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_081609.html

Still, I'm not concerned.  This poll has a 34-27 advantage for the GOP, which I find extremely unlikely, likeiwse with a 41-37-20 Conservative-Moderate-Liberal advantage.  On election day, the results will be quite different.

[Rowan]

New Washington Post (Aug. 11-14) poll out today:

Registered Voters:

McDonnell: 47%
Deeds: 40%

Likely Voters:

McDonnell: 54%
Deeds: 39%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_081609.html

Still, I'm not concerned.  This poll has a 34-27 advantage for the GOP, which I find extremely unlikely, likeiwse with a 41-37-20 Conservative-Moderate-Liberal advantage.  On election day, the results will be quite different.

So PPP, SUSA, and now WAPO have shown a Republican party ID advantage among likely voters, and you still don't believe it? Come on dude.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

So PPP, SUSA, and now WAPO have shown a Republican party ID advantage among likely voters, and you still don't believe it? Come on dude.

I don't believe GOP +7.  I'd be willing to buy GOP +2, but nothing more.

[CARLHAYDEN]

So PPP, SUSA, and now WAPO have shown a Republican party ID advantage among likely voters, and you still don't believe it? Come on dude.

I don't believe GOP +7.  I'd be willing to buy GOP +2, but nothing more.

There is no doubt but that the Democrats nominated their strongest candidate, and he probably would be trailing by two points if the national Democrats weren't going absolutely nuts.  Deeds is paying for the nutty actions of the Obamanations.