2009 New Jersey Governor's Race

[Zarn]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

LOL. I'm about 70% sure I'll vote for Daggett at this point. I just see no evidence--at all--that Corzine is responsible for any of the mess the state is in.* You want to pretend you have something other than ideology backing your vote, be my guest. But I challenge that you can't come up with a single shred of evidence that Corzine, personally or through his policies, is responsible for any of the major issues facing New Jersey. Really, one piece of evidence (from a neutral source, not a Christie campaign website or something) shouldn't be hard to find.

*He may not have been very good at dealing with existing problems, I'll grant that. But here I challenge you to come up with a substantive policy difference of Christie's that would deal with the problems. No, his tiny cuts don't count (you could fire every state employee twice and not close the budget deficit), nor does municipal consolidation (which everyone advocates to some degree, Christie and Corzine equally tepidly).

I'm not here to do homework assignments.

[Meeker]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

LOL. I'm about 70% sure I'll vote for Daggett at this point. I just see no evidence--at all--that Corzine is responsible for any of the mess the state is in.* You want to pretend you have something other than ideology backing your vote, be my guest. But I challenge that you can't come up with a single shred of evidence that Corzine, personally or through his policies, is responsible for any of the major issues facing New Jersey. Really, one piece of evidence (from a neutral source, not a Christie campaign website or something) shouldn't be hard to find.

*He may not have been very good at dealing with existing problems, I'll grant that. But here I challenge you to come up with a substantive policy difference of Christie's that would deal with the problems. No, his tiny cuts don't count (you could fire every state employee twice and not close the budget deficit), nor does municipal consolidation (which everyone advocates to some degree, Christie and Corzine equally tepidly).

I'm not here to do homework assignments.

Or make coherent arguments apparently.

[YankeeFan007]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

LOL. I'm about 70% sure I'll vote for Daggett at this point. I just see no evidence--at all--that Corzine is responsible for any of the mess the state is in.* You want to pretend you have something other than ideology backing your vote, be my guest. But I challenge that you can't come up with a single shred of evidence that Corzine, personally or through his policies, is responsible for any of the major issues facing New Jersey. Really, one piece of evidence (from a neutral source, not a Christie campaign website or something) shouldn't be hard to find.

*He may not have been very good at dealing with existing problems, I'll grant that. But here I challenge you to come up with a substantive policy difference of Christie's that would deal with the problems. No, his tiny cuts don't count (you could fire every state employee twice and not close the budget deficit), nor does municipal consolidation (which everyone advocates to some degree, Christie and Corzine equally tepidly).

I'm not here to do homework assignments.

That was a pretty sad and disappointing statement.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Sad and disappointing is a pretty good way to describe this campaign in general.

[Rowan]

A Shaftan poll of 300 RV's(?!?) shows Christie up 1, 36-35.

[Verily]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

LOL. I'm about 70% sure I'll vote for Daggett at this point. I just see no evidence--at all--that Corzine is responsible for any of the mess the state is in.* You want to pretend you have something other than ideology backing your vote, be my guest. But I challenge that you can't come up with a single shred of evidence that Corzine, personally or through his policies, is responsible for any of the major issues facing New Jersey. Really, one piece of evidence (from a neutral source, not a Christie campaign website or something) shouldn't be hard to find.

*He may not have been very good at dealing with existing problems, I'll grant that. But here I challenge you to come up with a substantive policy difference of Christie's that would deal with the problems. No, his tiny cuts don't count (you could fire every state employee twice and not close the budget deficit), nor does municipal consolidation (which everyone advocates to some degree, Christie and Corzine equally tepidly).

I'm not here to do homework assignments.

Then you have no right to complain.

[Rowan]

According to PPP's tweets, it looks like Corzine had a good first night of polling.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I found an article about the GOP's lack of funds in the Assembly races:

http://www.politickernj.com/matt-friedman/33903/gop-struggles-raise-money-assembly-races

Any thoughts?

[YankeeFan007]

I just thought of something really funny today.  If Christie loses this election, your whole party will turn to Lonegan in the next election.  You guys will lose the Governor's office for 8 years.  I can imagine Lonegan telling Republicans that they'll never win if they keep rooting for the RINO Republican.  What a disaster that would be. 

[Rowan]

Don't be surprised if Guadagno has a future in NJ politics.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I found an article about the GOP's lack of funds in the Assembly races:

http://www.politickernj.com/matt-friedman/33903/gop-struggles-raise-money-assembly-races

Any thoughts?

The numbers are a bit skewed, for example I work for the LD36 candidates, and they have raised a ton of money since the last filing deadline.  The more interesting thing is the LD36 commercials where the incumbent Dems never mention they are Democrats and say they will go to Trenton and clean it up

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I found an article about the GOP's lack of funds in the Assembly races:

http://www.politickernj.com/matt-friedman/33903/gop-struggles-raise-money-assembly-races

Any thoughts?

Republicans are actually doing a lot better than most recent years.  I think Republicans are being outspent 3 to 1 in the Bergen County Freeholder race, for example, which is a lot better to the worse-than-10-to-1 that they usually get thumped by.

It's just the way things work in New Jersey.  If you have power, you're going to outraise your opponents by extraordinary margins.  Just part of the "corruption."

[Mechaman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey

Look under "Governor" and "Lieutenant Governor".

Am I going insane or does it say "Chris Christie" and "Kim Guadango"?

[Meeker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey

Look under "Governor" and "Lieutenant Governor".

Am I going insane or does it say "Chris Christie" and "Kim Guadango"?

Hahaha, it totally does.

[CARLHAYDEN]

Here's a rather crude, but accurate way to assess the New Jersy Gubenatorial election.

Imagine the voters as a rather plain girl who is going to a dance on Friday night with her girl friends.

She makes a bet for more money than she can afford that she will make it with a guy that night.

Only three guys show any significant interest in her.

One has money, a beard, and several types of VD.

A second is fat, dull and plain himself.

A third is a poor little nerd who lives with his mommy and rides a bike.

She really doesn't want any of them, but cannot afford to lose the bet.

So, guess who she (reluctantly) goes to bed with?

[Alcon]

CARL you are so creepy

[Lunar]

solution is easy: rohypnol the fourth guy she actually likes

[Rowan]

Star-Ledger endorses Daggett:

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2009/10/star-ledger_endorses_independe.html

[Meeker]

Star-Ledger endorses Daggett:

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2009/10/star-ledger_endorses_independe.html

Do people still read the Star-Ledger?

[Lunar]

where is that newspaper based anyway?  an underwater barge leaking nuclear toxins?

[Linus Van Pelt]

All we need is a new facial cleanser to get all the Mexican pimples off, and then Dreamboat Lonegan won't be able to resist our newfound feminine mystique.

[Rowan]

Star-Ledger endorses Daggett:

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2009/10/star-ledger_endorses_independe.html

Do people still read the Star-Ledger?

Do people still read any newspaper?

[Vepres]

Here's a rather crude, but accurate way to assess the New Jersy Gubenatorial election.

Imagine the voters as a rather plain girl who is going to a dance on Friday night with her girl friends.

She makes a bet for more money than she can afford that she will make it with a guy that night.

Only three guys show any significant interest in her.

One has money, a beard, and several types of VD.

A second is fat, dull and plain himself.

A third is a poor little nerd who lives with his mommy and rides a bike.

She really doesn't want any of them, but cannot afford to lose the bet.

So, guess who she (reluctantly) goes to bed with?

The fat, dull, plain guy, duh!

[Saxwsylvania]

Corzine (D): 44% (+3)
Christie (R): 40% (-2)
Daggett (I): 12% (+1)

From October 5 - 10, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,188 New Jersey likely voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1299.xml?ReleaseID=1377

[Rowan]

Corzine (D): 44% (+3)
Christie (R): 40% (-2)
Daggett (I): 12% (+1)

From October 5 - 10, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,188 New Jersey likely voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1299.xml?ReleaseID=1377

Uhh what? There's no such poll.