2009 New Jersey Governor's Race

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Wow now I know why Corzine is able to compete (not that I didn't know this before).  At the healthcare debate at SHU last night, some guy from College Dems said Corzine needed volunteers to phone bank and pass out fliers (the stuff Christie has volunteers for) and was willing to pay $175 for 10 hours of work

Ouch.  Inflation.  It was $75-100 per day back when he ran against Franks.

[Holmes]

I'd skip class all week for the kind of money, even if it wasn't the candidate I was backing.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I'd skip class all week for the kind of money, even if it wasn't the candidate I was backing.

I'm too swamped in Christie/LD36 work to even consider

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I'd skip class all week for the kind of money, even if it wasn't the candidate I was backing.

And if the 2000 campaign was any indication, you don't even really need to do any work!  Plus you get a neat-o t-shirt and everything!  GORE/CORZINE PERFECT TOGETHER

[Zarn]

The Burlington County GOP called me today. They asked for help by voting. I told them I would and that I was rallying the troops (anyone I know who wants Corzine out and has voted in last years election). I really don't want another four years of this garbage. I also told them I was unsure about the other Republican candidates. Odds are in favor of me not voting straight ticket.

[Lief 🗽]

For $17.50 an hour I'd probably campaign for even Mitt Romney.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Two new polls, though both are from Democratic pollsters.  I firmly believe that Democracy Corp is trash since they've been drastically off everyone else all cycle, and frankly, I know nothing about Penn, Schoen & Berland.

But anyway:

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And, of course, GQR has Corzine leading now!  Cue the gasps from the audience!

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[Eraserhead]

Hopefully it'll stay this close. It'd make election night at least marginally interesting.

[Tender Branson]

SUSA has it 43-40-14 for Christie ...

Filtering: SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 New Jersey adults 10/05/09 through 10/07/09. Of them, 889 were registered to vote. Of the registered voters, 639 were determined by SurveyUSA to be likely to vote in the 11/3 general election.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=172d95d0-4ed1-4613-8cb6-2a421218076a

[Eraserhead]

SUSA has it 43-40-14 for Christie ...

Filtering: SurveyUSA interviewed 1,000 New Jersey adults 10/05/09 through 10/07/09. Of them, 889 were registered to vote. Of the registered voters, 639 were determined by SurveyUSA to be likely to vote in the 11/3 general election.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=172d95d0-4ed1-4613-8cb6-2a421218076a

Hmm, I was expecting a wider margin for Christie from them...

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

[Eraserhead]

More importantly, Corzine is winning the vote from Springsteen fans, apparently.

[Mechaman]

More importantly, Corzine is winning the vote from Springsteen fans, apparently.

It seems that Corzine is Born to Run .

[Brittain33]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

[Zarn]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

[Brittain33]

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

Wow. I'm sorry if this election isn't the self-esteem booster you were hoping for.

[Verily]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

[Holmes]

Are you gonna have someone at every voting booth across the state fill out a questionnaire about the candidates, and if they fail, tell them to stay out of it?

[Holmes]

Reaching CARL-like levels there...

Did anyone catch the debate tonight? I only caught the last 10 minutes... talking about charter schools and stuff.

[Zarn]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

[Rowan]

Reaching CARL-like levels there...

Did anyone catch the debate tonight? I only caught the last 10 minutes... talking about charter schools and stuff.

I was at the debate. Was a good time yelling down union thugs outside.

[© tweed]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

(D)

[© tweed]

Wow now I know why Corzine is able to compete (not that I didn't know this before).  At the healthcare debate at SHU last night, some guy from College Dems said Corzine needed volunteers to phone bank and pass out fliers (the stuff Christie has volunteers for) and was willing to pay $175 for 10 hours of work

Ouch.  Inflation.  It was $75-100 per day back when he ran against Franks.

Sharpe James did the same stuff.  he would even bus them up from out-of-state!  (cite: Street Fight)

[Verily]

How Corzine polls so astronomically well amongst those concerned about jobs and the economy when New Jersey has the worst economy in its region, I'll never know.

It's not rational to blame the governor for the state of the economy in any state, and people concerned about jobs and the economy in N.J. are presumably more in favor of an activist government looking out for the unemployed and hard-up than for tax cuts.

George W. Bush escaped blame for the economy in the 2002 elections, and he was about as responsible for that as Corzine is for N.J.'s economy (which isn't in that bad shape by national standards, anyway.)

If you don't know anything about Corzine, just stay out of it.

I'd love you to tell us how Corzine has destroyed the economy of New Jersey, and how Christie will fix it. But you can't.

I can, but Dem philosophy means you won't listen.

LOL. I'm about 70% sure I'll vote for Daggett at this point. I just see no evidence--at all--that Corzine is responsible for any of the mess the state is in.* You want to pretend you have something other than ideology backing your vote, be my guest. But I challenge that you can't come up with a single shred of evidence that Corzine, personally or through his policies, is responsible for any of the major issues facing New Jersey. Really, one piece of evidence (from a neutral source, not a Christie campaign website or something) shouldn't be hard to find.

*He may not have been very good at dealing with existing problems, I'll grant that. But here I challenge you to come up with a substantive policy difference of Christie's that would deal with the problems. No, his tiny cuts don't count (you could fire every state employee twice and not close the budget deficit), nor does municipal consolidation (which everyone advocates to some degree, Christie and Corzine equally tepidly).

[Smash255]

A little note into the economy argument regarding NJ.  Comparing unemployment in NJ to the national unemployment from the time Corzine was elected to now is almost identical.  In Jan of 06 NJ had an unemployment rate .1% higher than the national unemployment rate, as of August (the last state data available) NJ's unemployment was the exact same as August's national unemployment rate.  So NJ's unemployment was directly in line with the national #'s when he took over, and is now as well.