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« Reply #125 on: April 29, 2009, 08:50:41 AM »

Monmouth/Gannett NJ
Christie 39%
Corzine 35%

Corzine 37%
Lonegan 33%

http://www.monmouth.edu/polling/admin/polls/MUP24_1.pdf
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« Reply #126 on: April 29, 2009, 12:29:57 PM »

Wow, that is a pretty low Christie.
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« Reply #127 on: April 29, 2009, 12:43:52 PM »

It begins... lol.
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« Reply #128 on: April 29, 2009, 12:48:15 PM »

Actually, this is completely different than other gubernatorial elections.

I also expect some Lonegan fans to jump on the Christie bandwagon, after the primary.
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« Reply #129 on: April 29, 2009, 12:54:22 PM »

Once the polls are within 5% of a Democrat win in NJ I think it is basically over.  The polls are always skewed in favor of the Republican.
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« Reply #130 on: April 29, 2009, 01:11:28 PM »


Undecideds are too high even for NJ, and Monmouth had Corzine ahead in their last poll in January (although everyone else did in January, too, IIRC).
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« Reply #131 on: April 29, 2009, 01:30:19 PM »

Yeah, you have to look for movement when all else is held constant, and not from polling company to polling company.
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« Reply #132 on: April 29, 2009, 05:02:41 PM »
« Edited: April 29, 2009, 05:05:17 PM by RowanBrandon »

Let's just say Monmouth isn't a very good pollster. They had Obama winning by 23 IIRC.

Like someone else said, you have to look at trends, comparing different pollsters is meaningless because they all use different sample compositions.

It's a Uni poll besides Quinnipiac, aka junk.
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« Reply #133 on: April 29, 2009, 05:07:51 PM »


Undecideds are too high even for NJ, and Monmouth had Corzine ahead in their last poll in January (although everyone else did in January, too, IIRC).

Yeah, I was only half-serious. It looks like a pretty awful poll all around.
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« Reply #134 on: May 04, 2009, 03:53:43 PM »

Christie was just on Cavuto. Sounded pretty impressive if you ask me.
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« Reply #135 on: May 04, 2009, 11:46:05 PM »

Here's that video if anyone is interested:

http://www.christiefornj.com/blog/2009/05/05/live-on-fox-news-channel-with-neil-cavuto/
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« Reply #136 on: May 05, 2009, 12:31:34 AM »

I like this guy.  Not just from this video, but in general.
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« Reply #137 on: May 05, 2009, 06:26:28 PM »

From PolitickerNJ:

"With about a month to go before the gubernatorial primary, former U.S. Attorney Chris Christie has $3,033,463 on hand after raising a total of $4,686,183...

...Lonegan has raised almost half of what Christie has, with $2,109,093 in total, but has $481,824 on hand."
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« Reply #138 on: May 06, 2009, 02:35:11 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2009, 02:37:16 PM by Verily »

Eh, I'm not as impressed with him as I'd like to be.  Looks like the same old, same old.  Only he has no real positions.  I'm not as optimistic about this as I was.  Even if he wins, it's going to be the same mess and he'll lose reelection to someone worse than Corzine.

Basically this. People don't like Corzine's plans to fix the budget. They're painful. So they're voting for Christie, who has no plans to fix the budget, or really any plans at all. Wonderful.

Of course, no one wants to address the real issues. they just want to whine about property taxes, which have nothing to do with the state government and frankly that the state government can't do anything to fix in the long-term. (The real solution would be for municipalities to start taking the initiative and merging back together. The state government can't--or won't--force them to do so, but it's what has to be done.)
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« Reply #139 on: May 06, 2009, 04:24:33 PM »

Anyway, Joe the Plumber is campaigning for Lonegan. LOL.

http://www.politickernj.com/max/29510/joe-plumber-revs-lonegan-crowd
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« Reply #140 on: May 06, 2009, 04:27:24 PM »


*bangs head against wall*

Can't both of these guys just go away?
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« Reply #141 on: May 06, 2009, 09:38:14 PM »

A chance at change versus a guarantee that no change will happen.

I'm sold.
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« Reply #142 on: May 07, 2009, 11:23:50 AM »

Delusional.

“If they really wanted to hurt Chris Christie, they would just run the ads, but they want publicity for the ads, which means they fear Steve Lonegan.  It’s reverse psychology.” -- Lonegan strategist Rick Shaftan, on the Democratic Governors Association (DGA) spending money in New Jersey during the primary.
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« Reply #143 on: May 07, 2009, 06:10:03 PM »


Yeah, heard him on NJN radio news last night. Joe sounded even less coherent than the article suggests, it was extremely rambly and full of content-free phrases like "I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel here" and "you just gotta do what you gotta do", and he gave no evidence of any knowledge or interest in the actual N.J. campaign.
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« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2009, 08:29:42 AM »

They just played a Christie ad and a Lonegan ad within 5 minutes of each other on the radio.  The Christie ad said stuff like, "Lonegan wants to raise taxes," and "Elect Chris Christie, a Reagan conservative."  Then the Lonegan ad said, "Christie is lying," "I'm not gonna raise taxes," and "Christie's tax plan is more progressive than mine." 

I'm having flashbacks of the 2008 GOP primaries. 

Oh and double-word score for Lonegan for ending his ad with, "The conservative change we need."
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« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2009, 10:00:01 AM »

They just played a Christie ad and a Lonegan ad within 5 minutes of each other on the radio.  The Christie ad said stuff like, "Lonegan wants to raise taxes," and "Elect Chris Christie, a Reagan conservative."  Then the Lonegan ad said, "Christie is lying," "I'm not gonna raise taxes," and "Christie's tax plan is more progressive than mine." 

Does Lonegan realize that the opposite of a progressive tax plan is a regressive one, not a conservative one?
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« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2009, 10:14:38 AM »

At this point, I'm rooting for Christie over Lonegan and Corzine. I'm curious if this will last through Election Day. I kind of hope Christie doesn't make vetoing gay marriage an issue, I want to be on the same side as my family for once.
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« Reply #147 on: May 08, 2009, 10:21:02 AM »

I doubt it. It's, after all, New Jersey.
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« Reply #148 on: May 08, 2009, 10:32:50 AM »

I bet Corzine will try to make it an issue to take the heat off his terrible handling of the budget.
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« Reply #149 on: May 08, 2009, 05:55:40 PM »

Why does www.TimKaine.com redirect to Lonegan's campaign website?
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