The Examiner: Election Tracker

[HappyWarrior]

Badger is in the JCP and ben is in the DA just to let you know

[Јas]

Badger is in the JCP and ben is in the DA just to let you know

Corrected

[MasterJedi]

currently the amendment is failing even though it is passing over all by almost 60%.. that amendment bill should have passed..

I hope it will be reintroduced in some time. The zombie voters won't manage to steal it again.

It won't be hard to kill that crap amendment again.

[Antonio the Sixth]

currently the amendment is failing even though it is passing over all by almost 60%.. that amendment bill should have passed..

I hope it will be reintroduced in some time. The zombie voters won't manage to steal it again.

It won't be hard to kill that crap amendment again.

This Amendment was just common sense.

[Marokai Backbeat]

currently the amendment is failing even though it is passing over all by almost 60%.. that amendment bill should have passed..

I hope it will be reintroduced in some time. The zombie voters won't manage to steal it again.

It won't be hard to kill that crap amendment again.

This Amendment was just common sense.

Yes it was, and MasterJedi's response is indicative of the overall debate on the issue. Some people wanted to solve a real problem and others just wanted to a throw a fit an oppose it.

This Amendment is yet another in a long line of examples (it seems to become almost every single Amendment now that at one point in it's ratification has 60% or near 60% support but technically fails) of how our ratification system is totally screwed up, yet the obstructionists continue to oppose such common sense reform.

[cinyc]

Yes it was, and MasterJedi's response is indicative of the overall debate on the issue. Some people wanted to solve a real problem and others just wanted to a throw a fit an oppose it.

This Amendment is yet another in a long line of examples (it seems to become almost every single Amendment now that at one point in it's ratification has 60% or near 60% support but technically fails) of how our ratification system is totally screwed up, yet the obstructionists continue to oppose such common sense reform.

Yes, because we all know all votes are final once a specific threshold is met.  There's no reason to wait until the vote is final and everyone who wants to vote votes.  Why not just make sure uber-liberals vote first in each region, then claim it once had 100% support - ergo, it should have passed?

Please cite ONE example of a proposed amendment that has received 60% support at the end of the vote yet failed.  ONE - something you proponents never did while that amendment was up for a vote.  Yet you blame "the obstructionists" for your inability to successfully argue for your proposed amendments.

[Sbane]

currently the amendment is failing even though it is passing over all by almost 60%.. that amendment bill should have passed..

I hope it will be reintroduced in some time. The zombie voters won't manage to steal it again.

It won't be hard to kill that crap amendment again.

Yeah let's kill some people. Yee haw.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Jedi was talking about the other one, not this one

[Vepres]

Well, amendments should be VERY difficult to pass just as they are IRL. A conservative amendment would be easy to kill as well, as the Pacfic and one of the MW or NE would likely reject it.

In this case a regional vote makes sense. The DS, the only region with the death penalty at the moment I believe, is protecting their rights to make their own decisions as a semi-sovereign body. I won't debate the merits of the amendment, but its failing due to the system makes some sense in this instance.

[Хahar 🤔]

What is the DS?

[Marokai Backbeat]

What is the DS?

[Vepres]

What is the DS?

Right, forgot about all that stuff. SE

I was out of town over the weekend, and I haven't been following this, "controversy", very closely

[DownWithTheLeft]

Xahar you can be a technical jackass all you want, but to anyone who actually loves the region it is the Dirty South.  Maybe if you understood this your defeat next month would not be so assured

[MaxQue]

Well, amendments should be VERY difficult to pass just as they are IRL. A conservative amendment would be easy to kill as well, as the Pacfic and one of the MW or NE would likely reject it.

In this case a regional vote makes sense. The DS, the only region with the death penalty at the moment I believe, is protecting their rights to make their own decisions as a semi-sovereign body. I won't debate the merits of the amendment, but its failing due to the system makes some sense in this instance.

Note than Southeast voted to abolish the death penalty with 70% of votes in a regional initiative, but it failed since it didn't reached 75%.

[Хahar 🤔]

Xahar you can be a technical jackass all you want, but to anyone who actually loves the region it is the Dirty South.  Maybe if you understood this your defeat next month would not be so assured

I'm sorry, were you saying something?

I don't listen to irrelevant people who don't hold office.

[Јas]

Capital Punishment Abolition Amendment Tracker

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Mideast (Voting ends: <16 hours)

	11	(HappyWarrior, Swedish Cheese, filliatre, Franzl, Devilman, Einzige, tmthforu, Al, afleitch, Purple State, opebo)
	6	(Inks, Peter, officepark, benconstine, Frodo, badger)
	0

Midwest  (Voting ends: <32 hours)

	8	(ilikeverin, Jas, Hans-im-Glück, Lewis Trondheim, Mechaman, BRTD, Fritz, NiK)
	5	(Vepres, MasterJedi, nickjbor, Gustaf, GMantis)
	0

Northeast (Voting ends: <32 hours)

	6	(Barnes, Smid, Mart, Dr. Cynic, sbane, Antonio V)
	8	(cinyc, Lief, Mr. Moderate, GM3, DWTL, RowanBrandon, AndrewCT, Hamilton)
	3	(Winston Disraeli, bullmoose, Hashemite)

Pacific (Voting ends: <27 hours)

	7	(Ebowed, Marokai Blue, Meeker, Kalwejt, MaxQue, realisticidealist, bgwah)
	0
	0

Southeast (Voting ends: <14 hours)

	5	(Bacon King, JBrase, PiT, Xahar, Deldem)
	6	(North Carolina Yankee, Brandon H, Sam Spade, Cosmo Kramer, Daniel Adams, SPC)
	0

The amendment is currently failing.
Minimum number of extra votes necessary to appove: 2 in the Southeast.

Overall Tally
37 (56.9%)
25 (38.5%)
3   (4.6%)


Party Support (% voting in favour)

LNF	7-0-1	87.5%
JCP	14-4-0	77.8%
DA	6-3-1	60%
RRP	7-9-0	43.8%
ARC	1-2-1	25%

Turnout Table

Midwest	13/28	46.4%
Mideast	17/37	45.9%
Southeast	11/24	45.8%
Atlasia	65/172	37.8%
Northeast	17/51	33.3%
Pacific	7/32	21.9%

[Brandon H]

Note than Southeast voted to abolish the death penalty with 70% of votes in a regional initiative, but it failed since it didn't reached 75%.

No, it passed as it only requires 2/3 vote rather than 3/4 vote.

[k-onmmunist]

This is kind of sad.

[DownWithTheLeft]

If it passes the Dirty South, I plan to bring suit not to count Xahar's vote.  The booth clearly says vote "Aye" or "Nay"

A vote of is not an acceptable vote in this region, rather in the region he came from to infest ours

[Хahar 🤔]

lol

[DownWithTheLeft]

lol

You have no room to argue, you are the one who constantly picks out stupid technicalities

[Хahar 🤔]

Yeah, but I do a good job of it.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Yeah, but I do a good job of it.

No, you just have too much time on your hands.  When they are blatently obvious like this they don't require a lot of time to figure out.  I will admit I don't have a copy of the Dirty South constitution in my pocket all the time

[Јas]

Capital Punishment Abolition Amendment Tracker

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Mideast (Voting period ended, certification awaited)

	11	(HappyWarrior, Swedish Cheese, filliatre, Franzl, Devilman, Einzige, tmthforu, Al, afleitch, Purple State, opebo)
	6	(Inks, Peter, officepark, benconstine, Frodo, badger)
	0

Midwest  (Voting ends: <14 hours)

	8	(ilikeverin, Jas, Hans-im-Glück, Lewis Trondheim, Mechaman, BRTD, Fritz, NiK)
	5	(Vepres, MasterJedi, nickjbor, Gustaf, GMantis)
	0

Northeast (Voting ends: <14 hours)

	7	(Barnes, Smid, Mart, Dr. Cynic, sbane, Antonio V, Sewer Socialist)
	8	(cinyc, Lief, Mr. Moderate, GM3, DWTL, RowanBrandon, AndrewCT, Hamilton)
	4	(Winston Disraeli, bullmoose, Hashemite, fezzyfestoon)

Pacific (Voting ends: <9 hours)

	7	(Ebowed, Marokai Blue, Meeker, Kalwejt, MaxQue, realisticidealist, bgwah)
	1	(Torie)
	0

Southeast (Voting period over, certification awaited)

	5	(Bacon King, JBrase, PiT, Xahar, Deldem)
	6	(North Carolina Yankee, Brandon H, Sam Spade, Cosmo Kramer, Daniel Adams, SPC)
	0

The amendment is currently failing.
Minimum number of extra votes necessary to appove: 2 in the Northeast.

Overall Tally
38 (55.9%)
26 (38.2%)
4   (5.9%)


Party Support (% voting in favour)

LNF	7-0-1	87.5%
JCP	15-4-0	78.9%
DA	6-3-1	60%
RRP	7-9-1	41.2%
ARC	1-2-1	25%

Turnout Table

Midwest	13/28	46.4%
Mideast	17/37	45.9%
Southeast	11/24	45.8%
Atlasia	68/172	39.5%
Northeast	19/51	37.3%
Pacific	8/32	25%

[Marokai Backbeat]

Failing because of two votes..

This is our ratification system folks. Yeehaw.