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Eleden
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« on: January 10, 2008, 03:39:48 PM »

I doubt it'll hurt him, but to what extent could it actually help him besides fundraising information?

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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 03:40:48 PM »

The Options are not "Help" or "Hurt" thus making the poll meaningless.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 03:41:24 PM »

You're right in that it probably won't hurt him. 50/50 on whether it helps him, but if it does it won't be by a lot in all probability.

The Options are not "Help" or "Hurt" thus making the poll meaningless.

LOL, BRTD talking about a poll being meaningless.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 03:41:45 PM »

The Options are not "Help" or "Hurt" thus making the poll meaningless.

A simple typo.  I provided a key, thus making your previous post meaningless. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 03:41:54 PM »

Not much either way, really. Probably just opens a few fundraising doors, which never hurts.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 04:02:42 PM »



I'll let you know in a couple of months.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 04:05:21 PM »

John Kerry is helping Obama close the unlikeability gap!

Seriously, just getting ahold of John Kerry's email list will help like hell.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 04:23:32 PM »

Rumors were that Obama would be recieving a string a superdelagate endorsements. This is a good start in confirming that rumor. Also, the mayor of Atlanta endorsed him today, I think.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 04:32:39 PM »

I don't think it will help or hurt much either way, except as some ppl said, with fundraising. Kerry is irrelevent now and I don't think anyone cares what he has to say
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 04:33:03 PM »

Tim Johnson has also endorsed Obama.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 04:34:50 PM »

Help - albeit only a bit, but it'll be more important in terms of campaign structure and fundraising(especially in Feb 5 states) also helps to reinforce and project the image of Obama as a credible candidate rather than just an insurgent 'flash in the pan'.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 04:53:35 PM »

John Kerry is helping Obama close the unlikeability gap!

Seriously, just getting ahold of John Kerry's email list will help like hell.

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 04:59:21 PM »

Kerry is always talking but says nothing................Edwards should be personally offended
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 05:14:52 PM »

Edwards should be personally offended

I don't think Edwards really expected Kerry to endorse him and no one else should have either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 05:15:30 PM »

Personal endorsements don't mean much, but as pointed out here, Kerry actually has serious things that can give a huge boost to a campaign.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2008, 05:23:15 PM »

Help. Kerry will bring establishment support, a greater donor list, an organization, and a signal to rank and file Democrats that Obama is an acceptable choice. While most Indys and Republicans will scoff at this endorsement, blue collar and base Democrats, many of whom have been generally skeptical of Obama, will begin to drift over to the Illinois Senator's side.

This is definitely a strong "get" for Obama.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2008, 05:24:13 PM »

Why would blue collar Democrats swing to a particular candidate due to someone who they never liked endorsing that candidate?
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2008, 05:32:02 PM »

Why would blue collar Democrats swing to a particular candidate due to someone who they never liked endorsing that candidate?
The Democratic base voters tend to support the more familiar, establishment pick over the insurgent. That's why Mondale triumphed over Hart. Kerry's primary supporters were largely lunch-pail Democrats, the very kind of voter Obama needs to win in order to clinch the nomination. Kerry's endorsements send a subtly message to these voters that Obama is "one of us." If Obama can pick away at this part of Hillbot 3000's base, Obama will stand a better shot of winning on Feb. 5th.
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2008, 05:41:02 PM »

Kerry's primary supporters were largely lunch-pail Democrats,

Nonsense. Kerry's primary supporters were largely those Democrats who didn't like the other candidates. Look at the maps on this site; it's quite obvious when thee realises what's going on.

And as November showed, Kerry had very little real appeal to working class voters, Democrats included.
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 05:41:15 PM »

It will matter very little either way. Has anyone ever changed who they voted for based on an endorsement?
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2008, 05:42:04 PM »

Kerry's primary supporters were largely lunch-pail Democrats,

Nonsense. Kerry's primary supporters were largely those Democrats who didn't like the other candidates. Look at the maps on this site; it's quite obvious when thee realises what's going on.

And as November showed, Kerry had very little real appeal to working class voters, Democrats included.

Look at the NH map. He won blue-collar areas. Obama strongholds overlapped with those of Howard Dean. A similar dynamic occurred in Iowa, too.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2008, 05:58:21 PM »


Of course. But by default and obviously so.

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Not to the extent that a quick look would suggest.

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Not really.


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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2008, 06:04:42 PM »

Actually if that map's an indication Kerry DID win lots of blue collar areas. He carried almost every county bordering the Mississippi river, and ones like Dubuque and Scott by apparently wide margins.
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2008, 06:06:05 PM »


Of course. But by default and obviously so.

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Not to the extent that a quick look would suggest.

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Not really.



Exit polls from both races showed similar demographic support for each candidates. Their regional support bases were also quite similar.You can't dispute that Obama and Dean won over the  same base of affluent, well-educated voters.  That, not the a few county-by-county differences, is the important point from New Hampshire

Read this article if you'd like to learn more about this topic. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22575721/
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2008, 06:07:58 PM »

I don't think it will do much of either. Kerry is irrelevant.
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