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« Reply #225 on: June 30, 2024, 04:10:51 PM »

To be fair, any campaign would and should attempt this sort of spin. Trump's absolutely for one thing, would. They're always challenging reality. Why shouldn't Biden's campaign at least try?

Because you guys were supposed to be the smart ones.

I think what is so offensive and also darkly comedic is that they would've gotten away with all this if they simply didn't let him run for reelection. Biden's health and acuity would've been speculated on for the rest of his life and in the history books, but no one would've questioned why an 80 year-old would not want to run for re-election.
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« Reply #226 on: June 30, 2024, 04:12:22 PM »


Jill Biden is the worst First Lady in American history. How the hell can she insist that her husband stays in the race after the publicly infantilized him on live TV?
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« Reply #227 on: June 30, 2024, 04:13:45 PM »


Jill Biden is the worst First Lady in American history. How the hell can she insist that her husband stays in the race after the publicly infantilized him on live TV?

Power.  Its elder abuse (but I was infracted by GM for saying that)
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« Reply #228 on: June 30, 2024, 04:17:23 PM »


Jill Biden is the worst First Lady in American history. How the hell can she insist that her husband stays in the race after the publicly infantilized him on live TV?

I'd still say Edith Wilson for running the country as if the people elected her in 1916 when the VP should've been handed power after Wilson's stroke.

But this is getting awful close to it.
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« Reply #229 on: June 30, 2024, 04:20:36 PM »

Well, they know better than anyone else. Time to circle the wagons.
No, they don’t. We can’t circle the wagons when the horses have already left the stables.
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« Reply #230 on: June 30, 2024, 04:26:22 PM »


Jill Biden is the worst First Lady in American history. How the hell can she insist that her husband stays in the race after the publicly infantilized him on live TV?

I'd still say Edith Wilson for running the country as if the people elected her in 1916 when the VP should've been handed power after Wilson's stroke.

But this is getting awful close to it.

At least then the president didn’t have the nuclear codes and WW1 was over rather than WW3 potentially brewing. At least then the public was blissfully unaware their president was a vegetable. At least then Wilson and his party weren’t gonna win another term anyway, and Warren Harding was bad but no Donald Trump.
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« Reply #231 on: June 30, 2024, 04:39:10 PM »

Doesn't seem like the Biden family cares about the country that much more than the Trump family. Very damning.
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« Reply #232 on: June 30, 2024, 04:46:20 PM »

Bill O'Reilly just said Biden is going to drop out, so I guess that confirms that he's staying in.
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« Reply #233 on: June 30, 2024, 04:49:30 PM »

Bill O'Reilly just said Biden is going to drop out, so I guess that confirms that he's staying in.

But what about Dick Morris?
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« Reply #234 on: June 30, 2024, 04:53:41 PM »

Doesn't seem like the Biden family cares about the country that much more than the Trump family. Very damning.
This is completely inaccurate and totally unfair. Melania Trump cares far more about America than Jill Biden does.
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« Reply #235 on: June 30, 2024, 04:56:02 PM »

This is completely inaccurate and totally unfair. Melania Trump cares far more about America than Jill Biden does.
OK, now you (and some others in this thread) are being completely ridiculous. STOP IT!
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« Reply #236 on: June 30, 2024, 04:58:36 PM »

This is completely inaccurate and totally unfair. Melania Trump cares far more about America than Jill Biden does.
OK, now you (and some others in this thread) are being completely ridiculous. STOP IT!

Melania is an immigrant from the former Yugoslavia who managed to get married to a billionaire and become First Lady, she might well appreciate the American Dream more than Jill.
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« Reply #237 on: June 30, 2024, 04:58:43 PM »

This is completely inaccurate and totally unfair. Melania Trump cares far more about America than Jill Biden does.
OK, now you (and some others in this thread) are being completely ridiculous. STOP IT!
At least Melania just did nothing as First Lady, rather than actively harming the country. At least Melania made it extremely obvious that she didn’t want her husband to be president without outright saying it
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« Reply #238 on: June 30, 2024, 05:00:59 PM »

A lot of this is reporting from the outside - we don’t really know what’s really going on inside these rooms, but the way things are being reported really make Jill Biden seem like a bit selfish almost right now. However that doesn’t mean she’s acting in bad faith or is even naive.
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« Reply #239 on: June 30, 2024, 05:01:30 PM »

Melania is an immigrant from the former Yugoslavia who managed to get married to a billionaire and become First Lady, she might well appreciate the American Dream more than Jill.

At least Melania just did nothing as First Lady, rather than actively harming the country. At least Melania made it extremely obvious that she didn’t want her husband to be president without outright saying it
Yeah, the debate broke both of your brains.

It's one thing to want Biden to step aside but this other stuff you're saying is plainly absurd.
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« Reply #240 on: June 30, 2024, 05:09:35 PM »

A lot of this is reporting from the outside - we don’t really know what’s really going on inside these rooms, but the way things are being reported really make Jill Biden seem like a bit selfish almost right now. However that doesn’t mean she’s acting in bad faith or is even naive.
I don’t see any rational reason for Jill to want her husband to stay in the race. She’s either just as delusional and out of it as he is, or her pride and ego is so great that she would rather put the country at great risk of another Trump term rather than admit defeat, or she’s so selfish that she only cares about having a chance at being First Lady for another 4 years, regardless of how small that chance is it this point
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« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2024, 05:16:14 PM »

A lot of this is reporting from the outside - we don’t really know what’s really going on inside these rooms, but the way things are being reported really make Jill Biden seem like a bit selfish almost right now. However that doesn’t mean she’s acting in bad faith or is even naive.
I don’t see any rational reason for Jill to want her husband to stay in the race. She’s either just as delusional and out of it as he is, or her pride and ego is so great that she would rather put the country at great risk of another Trump term rather than admit defeat, or she’s so selfish that she only cares about having a chance at being First Lady for another 4 years, regardless of how small that chance is it this point

She likely spends way more time with her husband than you do - maybe she is delusional - but it’s hard for you to declare that with certainty when she’s the one who’s actually with him on a day to day basis, literally sleeps in bed with him, ect.
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« Reply #242 on: June 30, 2024, 05:27:16 PM »

A lot of this is reporting from the outside - we don’t really know what’s really going on inside these rooms, but the way things are being reported really make Jill Biden seem like a bit selfish almost right now. However that doesn’t mean she’s acting in bad faith or is even naive.
I don’t see any rational reason for Jill to want her husband to stay in the race. She’s either just as delusional and out of it as he is, or her pride and ego is so great that she would rather put the country at great risk of another Trump term rather than admit defeat, or she’s so selfish that she only cares about having a chance at being First Lady for another 4 years, regardless of how small that chance is it this point

She likely spends way more time with her husband than you do - maybe she is delusional - but it’s hard for you to declare that with certainty when she’s the one who’s actually with him on a day to day basis, literally sleeps in bed with him, ect.
”What you’re seeing and what you’re hearing are not what’s happening.”

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« Reply #243 on: June 30, 2024, 05:33:54 PM »

Red avatars obviously would totally disregard Trump’s family insisting that he’s mentally fit to serve as president, despite them being closer to Trump than anyone else. Why does the same logic not apply to the Biden family?
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« Reply #244 on: June 30, 2024, 05:47:25 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.
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« Reply #245 on: June 30, 2024, 05:50:15 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.

Biden is an underdog, but he’s not a guaranteed loser. He has a 35-40% chance of winning.
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« Reply #246 on: June 30, 2024, 05:51:33 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.

Biden is an underdog, but he’s not a guaranteed loser. He has a 35-40% chance of winning.
How can you make this conclusion when Trump is leading in the polls? Reminder that Biden needs to win the NPV by at least 2% to have at least a 50% chance at winning the EC
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« Reply #247 on: June 30, 2024, 05:51:59 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.
No he doesn't.
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« Reply #248 on: June 30, 2024, 05:52:44 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.

Biden is an underdog, but he’s not a guaranteed loser. He has a 35-40% chance of winning.
How can you make this conclusion when Trump is leading in the polls? Reminder that Biden needs to win the NPV by at least 2% to have at least a 50% chance at winning the EC
How does what they said conflict at all with Trump leading in the polls?
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« Reply #249 on: June 30, 2024, 05:53:46 PM »

The broad agreement across the forum is unlike anything I've seen in awhile.

Is a loss probable with Harris? Maybe. Is it guaranteed with Biden? Undoubtedly. Anyone unable to make this calculation should not be taken seriously. He has dementia. Point blank.

Biden is an underdog, but he’s not a guaranteed loser. He has a 35-40% chance of winning.

I mean I suppose there's always a chance Trump also has a medical emergency, but that's not a bet I'd make.
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