Biden condemns ICC for requesting an arrest warrant for Netanyahu

[OSR stands with Israel]

https://twitter.com/barakravid/status/1792596973813432579

Great Move by Biden

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

He should’ve just kept his mouth shut on it

[7,052,770]

I hope that people who agree that this is a "great move" will reward Biden for it by giving them their vote in November. He apparently is in desperate need of more votes.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I don't understand why he had to say anything about this at all.  It may be true that they are not "equivalent", but what does that matter?  It's not like you decline to prosecute someone of one murder because someone else has murdered twenty people.

Biden's best hope at triangulation in this conflict is expressing general support for Israel but opposition to the Netanyahu regime, and this completely undermines that.

And just in general, I would like to see the US be much more active and compliant in ICC efforts to combat human rights abuses.

[SWE]

Real low point

[President Johnson]

Not a fan of the ICC. Why did they only issue an arrest warrant for Putin because of the kindapping of Ukrainian children? Not that this isn't bad enough, but they apparently couldn't for all the rest.

[mjba257]

Biden's right. The ICC has zero legitimacy. What happen to the sovereignty of states? We don't have a one world government for a reason. And why does the ICC single out Israel? Where's their outrage over China committing a genocide against the Uyghur's? Have they even gone after Putin? But of course they clutch their pearls over Israel. Wonder why?

[President Johnson]

Biden's right. The ICC has zero legitimacy. What happen to the sovereignty of states? We don't have a one world government for a reason. And why does the ICC single out Israel? Where's their outrage over China committing a genocide against the Uyghur's? Have they even gone after Putin? But of course they clutch their pearls over Israel. Wonder why?

Isn't Israel singled out because they were sued by countries like Nicaragua, whose government isn't exactly known for their human rights standards?

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Goddamnit Biden.

One minute you say Bibi is garbage, and the next you're defending him from being held accountable for all the sh!t he's been doing?

Make up your mind already instead of this half-assed stuff you've been doing.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Goddamnit Biden.

One minute you say Bibi is garbage, and the next you're defending him from being held accountable for all the sh!t he's been doing?

Make up your mind already instead of this half-assed stuff you've been doing.

The $26 billion for Netanyahu shows which side he is on.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Biden is not going to endorse the attempt by the ICC to create a precedent for universal jurisdiction. He's far too smart for that. One of the many reasons he still has my vote.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

This is why voters dislike Biden, he constantly flip-flops rather than committing to an issue, managing to piss off both sides.

[Rubensim]

God joe you really are trying to lose to trump
but well at least he didn't damage relations with israel any further so that good but he just destroyed his progressive and probably african and youth vote even further so yeah.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I don't understand why he had to say anything about this at all.  It may be true that they are not "equivalent", but what does that matter?  It's not like you decline to prosecute someone of one murder because someone else has murdered twenty people.

Biden's best hope at triangulation in this conflict is expressing general support for Israel but opposition to the Netanyahu regime, and this completely undermines that.

And just in general, I would like to see the US be much more active and compliant in ICC efforts to combat human rights abuses.

I presume the strategy is that it's further leverage to be applied on Bibi: Washington will shelter him and his officials from prosecution if he plays ball on not continuing to be a flaming moron by treating the PA like dirt.

There ate two interesting parts of the indictment. A) Gantz is not indicted presumably because the ICC, like the rest of the international order, want Likud and its allies to be the sin sponges and Gantz to be untainted. B) Haniyeh is indicted despite the fact he probably can't be directly linked with October unless they have a crazy smoking gun.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I get that he needs to work with Bibi still, but for f***'s sake...

[OSR stands with Israel]

I get that he needs to work with Bibi still, but for f***'s sake...

We have a law on the books saying that if the ICC arrested any American official, it would be be considered a declaration of war on the United States.

So this is fully consistent with US policy of believing the ICC should not have any real authority

[Cashew]

But but but what about the "rules based interntional order"?😮

Seriously though I admit to some morbid curioisty as to how much internationalism liberal internationists are willing to destroy for the sake of Israel.

[jojoju1998]

But but but what about the "rules based interntional order"?😮

Seriously though I admit to some morbid curioisty as to how much internationalism liberal internationists are willing to destroy for the sake of Israel.

The rules based international liberal order is all bull crap, and I'm saying as someone who is NOT a supporter of Israel. Look at how the liberal order failed to intervene in Rwanda, a clear cut case of genocide, and no one did anything. Then again, UN troops don't even have powers to do anything at all...

[pppolitics]

I am not surprised.

Biden isn't very smart.

If he is, he would have used this opportunity to wash his hands of Netanyahu.

[HisGrace]

If you're going to arrest Netanyahu I guess you have to arrest Obama for all the collateral damage in his drone bombings (plus W and Trump but I don't need to argue that here). Not to mention all the higher ups in places like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, North Korea, exc. Like, they think Bibi is bad enough where they need to put out an arrest warrant but not Kim Jong Un. Almost like there aren't any real standards here and this is just emotional bias. This is just grandstanding like everything else the ICC does on "human rights".

[Ferguson97]

This really pisses me off.

[OSR stands with Israel]

This really pisses me off.

why?

[T'Chenka]

"Will you shut up, man?"

[Ferguson97]

This really pisses me off.

why?

Because Netenyahu should be arrested by the ICC.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Biden is wrong here but honestly he's not really in an easy position because supporting it would destroy any negotiating power he has with Netanyahu.