UK Election 2010

[Хahar 🤔]

Gordon's picture isn't that bad.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Gordon's picture isn't that bad.

Only in the context of the other two!

[You kip if you want to...]

Gordon's picture isn't that bad.

He looks like he's on karaoke.

[Bo]

I hope Cameron wins.

[You kip if you want to...]

I hope Cameron wins.

Unfortunately, he will.

[k-onmmunist]

Then why do UKIP get so much in the European elections?

[Phony Moderate]

The debates would be more fun with Nick Griffin in them.

[k-onmmunist]

The debates would be more fun with Nick Griffin in them.

I say we have debates with Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens, UKIP and BNP all in

[KuntaKinte]

I say we have debates with Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens, UKIP and BNP all in

If it is just about fun, you shouldn't exclude Sinn Fein and the DUP. And Respect.

[Psychic Octopus]

Did the Tories win yet?

[doktorb]

UKIP do well in the Euros because they like to pretend a vote for them means UK independence. Well, they've had three Euro elections now to get us out, and it's  not happened yet.

For a Westminster election, UKIP cannot pretend to have any kind of legitimacy. 

[afleitch]

I say we have debates with Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems, Greens, UKIP and BNP all in

If it is just about fun, you shouldn't exclude Sinn Fein and the DUP. And Respect.

Or Plaid, or the SNP who also run a government

[doktorb]

Yes, a government in their own countries. They cannot statistically run the government of the United Kingdom.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Neither can the LibDems.

[doktorb]

We're a national party, without the SNP's apparant wish to sit in both camps of "leaders of an autonomous Scotland" and "player in United Kingdom politics".

Clegg does not just deserve to be part of the debates, he would have to be there. I would support any court action to ensure he was were he excluded.

[minionofmidas]

Neither can the LibDems.

He said "statistically". I suppose he meant the SNP doesn't run enough candidates to be theoretically capable of winning a majority in the Commons.
Although I suppose in theory they *could* *theoretically* become the largest party.

[Peter]

UKIP certainly ran enough candidates in 2005 to form a majority government, however, they will have difficulty since their new leader cannot actually become PM as he is a Lord.

[Joe Republic]

UKIP... will have difficulty since their new leader cannot actually become PM as he is a Lord.

I already know about the business with Douglas-Home in 1963, but is it actually illegal these days?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

UKIP... will have difficulty since their new leader cannot actually become PM as he is a Lord.

I already know about the business with Douglas-Home in 1963, but is it actually illegal these days?

By convention, the Prime Minister must be a member of the Commons.

[You kip if you want to...]

No regional parties should be party of the debates, that's a stupid idea. Regional debates, yes, but don't have them with the national parties. All the parties which field enough candidates to win a majority should be in the debate though.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The Liberal Democrats essentially do not exist in much of Wales and Scotland. Therefore they must be a regional party, and should not be allowed into the debate. Labour essentially does not exist in much of the London exurbs or in large swathes of the South West. Therefore, Labour also must be a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate. The Conservatives essentially do not exist in most of the old heavy industry zones. Therefore, the Tories are also a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate.

[minionofmidas]

Ah, but does Plaid Cymru nominally exist outside of Wales? Maybe you should run three or four candidates in England. Heck, the SNP ought to save its deposit in Corby.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Ah, but does Plaid Cymru nominally exist outside of Wales? Maybe you should run three or four candidates in England. Heck, the SNP ought to save its deposit in Corby.

A lot of Plaid's donors live in London, so presumably. Of course the 'standing candidates every in Great Britain' means that, logically, UKIP, the Greens and the BNP must be allowed into the debate as well.

Re; Corby, I'm not so sure - if Corby were a constituency on its own, yeah, they probably would. But then Corby on its own would be (as well as extremely undersized) a very safe Labour seat and not somewhere that was close in 2005.

[You kip if you want to...]

The Liberal Democrats essentially do not exist in much of Wales and Scotland. Therefore they must be a regional party, and should not be allowed into the debate. Labour essentially does not exist in much of the London exurbs or in large swathes of the South West. Therefore, Labour also must be a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate. The Conservatives essentially do not exist in most of the old heavy industry zones. Therefore, the Tories are also a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate.

But the main three stand candidates in nearly all the constituencies except for NI and the Speaker's seat, so there'll be people voting for them throughout the countries. In the case of Plaid and the SNP, they only stand candidates in Scotland and Wales.

[afleitch]

The Liberal Democrats essentially do not exist in much of Wales and Scotland. Therefore they must be a regional party, and should not be allowed into the debate. Labour essentially does not exist in much of the London exurbs or in large swathes of the South West. Therefore, Labour also must be a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate. The Conservatives essentially do not exist in most of the old heavy industry zones. Therefore, the Tories are also a regional party and should not be allowed into the debate.

But the main three stand candidates in nearly all the constituencies except for NI and the Speaker's seat, so there'll be people voting for them throughout the countries. In the case of Plaid and the SNP, they only stand candidates in Scotland and Wales.

True, but when I sit down to watch the debate here in windy Scotland I'll see 3 party leaders. Not 4.