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« on: April 19, 2024, 11:38:30 AM »

In response to Johnson's recent Ukraine decisions.

As of right now three House Republicans support the resolution to vacate the speaker (Greene, Massie and Gosar) more names are expected to come. Will the Democrats save Mike Johnson?

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2024, 11:59:33 AM »

Democrats will obviously save Johnson now that he’s allowed Ukraine aid. If McCarthy wasn’t a moron, he’d have done the same and still be speaker right now.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2024, 12:04:48 PM »

Johnson is a Democratic puppet. Why wouldn't they save him?
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2024, 12:06:25 PM »

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2024, 12:08:15 PM »

Democrats will obviously save Johnson now that he’s allowed Ukraine aid. If McCarthy wasn’t a moron, he’d have done the same and still be speaker right now.
All of you Atlas Democrats are totally ridiculous & naive if you think D's will save the Speaker. They will take the marching orders from their respective Campaign Cmte's and if those thing House Chaos is beneficial to them they will sack Johnson.
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2024, 12:08:43 PM »

Lol you’re so butthurt about aid passing that you make this thread? 😂
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2024, 12:10:53 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2024, 12:11:54 PM »

Johnson is a Democratic puppet. Why wouldn't they save him?

lmao imagine actually believing this
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2024, 12:16:08 PM »

Johnson is a Democratic puppet. Why wouldn't they save him?

lmao imagine actually believing this

He isn't a D puppet he blocked the Border Bill on antagonist Trump marching order but glad to see aid passed
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2024, 12:16:17 PM »

Lol you’re so butthurt about aid passing that you make this thread? 😂

I mean, at a certain point we just have to conclude that they like and are rooting for Putin, don't we?
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2024, 12:17:28 PM »

Lol you’re so butthurt about aid passing that you make this thread? 😂

I mean, at a certain point we just have to conclude that they like and are rooting for Putin, don't we?

That point was passed a long time ago.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2024, 12:17:34 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.

Do you value ukraine aid more or seeing republicans in disarray more .
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2024, 12:19:04 PM »

Johnson is a Democratic puppet. Why wouldn't they save him?

lmao imagine actually believing this

He isn't a D puppet he blocked the Border Bill on antagonist Trump marching order but glad to see aid passed

He didn't block the Border Bill. The Border Bill didn't pass the Senate.
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2024, 12:20:26 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.

Do you value ukraine aid more or seeing republicans in disarray more .

Republicans are already in disarray. Speaker Johnson assured that with this self-defeating move.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2024, 12:22:20 PM »

If Johnson is “saved” by democrats I think a second motion is immediately called and he looses more republicans cause then he’s a Judas or whatever to the far right
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2024, 12:23:07 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.

Do you value ukraine aid more or seeing republicans in disarray more .

It's not the responsibility of The Democratic Party to protect Johnson from his own caucus.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2024, 12:24:06 PM »

Lol you’re so butthurt about aid passing that you make this thread? 😂

I mean, at a certain point we just have to conclude that they like and are rooting for Putin, don't we?
I am not rooting for Putin but there has to be an "End Game". I supported Aid at the beginning of War but this War is IMO "Unwinnable" just like Israels War against Hamas & Hezbollah was unwinnable. Also, keep in mind that there was conflict in the Donbas since 2010 long before the Russia invaded Ukraine in early 2022. If this keeps continueing by the end of Pres Bidens 2nd Term the Biden Admin will have spent as much as George W. Bush spent on the Wars in Afghanistan & Iraq.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2024, 12:24:25 PM »

If Johnson is “saved” by democrats I think a second motion is immediately called and he looses more republicans cause then he’s a Judas or whatever to the far right

He is already a Judas. If Republicans wish to keep the House, he must be removed immediately.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2024, 12:25:34 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

They kind of do; he included them in the process at a juncture where McCarthy arrogantly told them to pound sand and then demanded their support anyway. This is how the game is played, and I say this as a Mike Johnson hater.
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2024, 12:25:59 PM »

If Johnson is “saved” by democrats I think a second motion is immediately called and he looses more republicans cause then he’s a Judas or whatever to the far right

He is already a Judas. If Republicans wish to keep the House, he must be removed immediately.

Agreed! No more caving!
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2024, 12:26:07 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.

Do you value ukraine aid more or seeing republicans in disarray more .

It's not the responsibility of The Democratic Party to protect Johnson from his own caucus.

So you value that over Ukraine Aid. Got it
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2024, 12:28:00 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

They kind of do; he included them in the process at a juncture where McCarthy arrogantly told them to pound sand and then demanded their support anyway. This is how the game is played, and I say this as a Mike Johnson hater.
What's more beneficial to Democrats: Saving Johnson or having House Chaos 6 months before the Election? I think you know the answer to that.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2024, 12:29:56 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

They kind of do; he included them in the process at a juncture where McCarthy arrogantly told them to pound sand and then demanded their support anyway. This is how the game is played, and I say this as a Mike Johnson hater.
What's more beneficial to Democrats: Saving Johnson or having House Chaos 6 months before the Election? I think you know the answer to that.

I'm more interested in what's most beneficial to the country and the world.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2024, 12:30:22 PM »

Democrats have no reason to save him.

They kind of do; he included them in the process at a juncture where McCarthy arrogantly told them to pound sand and then demanded their support anyway. This is how the game is played, and I say this as a Mike Johnson hater.

Politically they still have no obligation to keep him in office. He stands for nothing they support.

Democrats have no reason to save him.

Yeah, I don't think this will play out the same way. Even if Jeffries insists on a hard line, I think several Dems representing purple districts or for whom the aid is the most important issue will cross the aisle to keep him in office.

Because Mike Johnson is overwhelmingly popular in purple districts. Get real.

Do you value ukraine aid more or seeing republicans in disarray more .

It's not the responsibility of The Democratic Party to protect Johnson from his own caucus.

So you value that over Ukraine Aid. Got it

The aid has been passed. Democrats received what they wanted to there is no obligation to save Johnson.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2024, 12:34:15 PM »

A truism in politics, or any kind of situation that involves people with different goals, is that you have to give something in order to get something.  Most people in Congress inherently understood this until the rise of the no-compromise caucus among the Republicans.  Johnson allowed the aid bill to proceed, and I believe that enough Democrats will reward him for it by helping to save his job.
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