25 GOP Governors side with Abbott/Texas, say federal govt has abdicated the constitutional compact

[Blue3]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/25-states-republican-governors-sign-173041938.html

“We stand in solidarity with our fellow Governor, Greg Abbott, and the State of Texas in utilizing every tool and strategy, including razor wire fences, to secure the border," the letter, signed by 25 Republican governors. "Because the Biden Administration has abdicated its constitutional compact duties to the states, Texas has every legal justification to protect the sovereignty of our states and our nation.”

(This is Civil War language, used in articles of secession for confederate states)



Alabama

Alaska

Arkansas

Florida

Georgia

Idaho

Indiana

Iowa

Louisiana

Mississippi

Missouri

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

New Hampshire

North Dakota

Ohio

Oklahoma

South Carolina

South Dakota

Tennessee

Utah

Virginia

West Virginia

Wyoming

Vermont Gov. Phil Scott is the only Republican governor who did not sign onto the statement to support Abbott.

[free my dawg]

moderate sensible pro choice governor btw

[OSR stands with Israel]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas .

[Ferguson97]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

[ProgressiveModerate]

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I think what disgusts me the most here, from both the deplorable governors and their equally vile  cheerleaders, is that we all know there's absolutely no good faith or honesty here. They know they're full of bovine excrement, they just don't care. If a Democratic governor was to use identical reasoning to, say, start confiscating privately owned firearms, not a single one of them would say, "I don't like it, but that's the precedent we set" - they'd all scream to the heavens about how horrible it was.

All this really is, is one more example of how Republicans think law are something they get to make  for everyone else to obey. It's a completely mortally bankrupt position that does nothing but remind everyone that Republicans are irredeemable threats to the future of the United States and its citizens.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I think what disgusts me the most here, from both the deplorable governors and their equally vile  cheerleaders, is that we all know there's absolutely no good faith or honesty here. They know they're full of bovine excrement, they just don't care. If a Democratic governor was to use identical reasoning to, say, start confiscating privately owned firearms, not a single one of them would say, "I don't like it, but that's the precedent we set" - they'd all scream to the heavens about how horrible it was.

All this really is, is one more example of how Republicans think law are something they get to make  for everyone else to obey. It's a completely mortally bankrupt position that does nothing but remind everyone that Republicans are irredeemable threats to the future of the United States and its citizens.

Democrats have already used identical reasoning with Sanctuary States and cities

[OSR stands with Israel]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Just cause you keep peddling this lie does not mean its the truth you left wing authoritarian

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Just cause you keep peddling this lie does not mean its the truth you left wing authoritarian

Yes, we all understand - it only really becomes treason if your party fails to overthrow the Constitution. If you win, you'll get away with it. (Mostly. Hopefully there will be some exceptions even then, as a reminder for the future.)

[Person Man]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Just cause you keep peddling this lie does not mean its the truth you left wing authoritarian

Yes, we all understand - it only really becomes treason if your party fails to overthrow the Constitution. If you win, you'll get away with it. (Mostly. Hopefully there will be some exceptions even then, as a reminder for the future.)

Anything can eventually be allowed. That’s probably going to be the eventual moral of the fable we are living in.

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I think what disgusts me the most here, from both the deplorable governors and their equally vile  cheerleaders, is that we all know there's absolutely no good faith or honesty here. They know they're full of bovine excrement, they just don't care. If a Democratic governor was to use identical reasoning to, say, start confiscating privately owned firearms, not a single one of them would say, "I don't like it, but that's the precedent we set" - they'd all scream to the heavens about how horrible it was.

All this really is, is one more example of how Republicans think law are something they get to make  for everyone else to obey. It's a completely mortally bankrupt position that does nothing but remind everyone that Republicans are irredeemable threats to the future of the United States and its citizens.

I wonder how many of these 25 governors agree with using Bush v. Gore as precedent for having the federal government stop a state recount.

[GoTfan]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Just cause you keep peddling this lie does not mean its the truth you left wing authoritarian

Only one party attempted to overthrow the Constitution because of an election, and it wasn't the one lefties vote for.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

[Person Man]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

I’m ok with this if we agree that the judiciary is not binding.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

I’m ok with this if we agree that the judiciary is not binding.

Except the Supreme Court didn’t order Texas to do anything. They just gave the permission for the federal government to remove the fence if they wanted , and the federal government just ended up backing down

[heatcharger]

Based Dark Brandon shuts down the border. Thank you!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

I’m ok with this if we agree that the judiciary is not binding.

Except the Supreme Court didn’t order Texas to do anything. They just gave the permission for the federal government to remove the fence if they wanted , and the federal government just ended up backing down

Exactly. The feds had the right to take down the fence. Texas has authority to put up a fence, DC has the authority to take it down.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

They are Republicans. After 1/6/2021 treason is their brand.

[Ferguson97]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

States do not have the authority to set immigration or border policy.

[Donerail]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

States do not have the authority to set immigration or border policy.

Google "sanctuary city," it's gonna blow your mind.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

States do not have the authority to set immigration or border policy.

Google "sanctuary city," it's gonna blow your mind.

Then why don't you go to the courts to make them illegal?
What's stopping you?

[Ferguson97]

Abbott won and forced Biden to back down . Thank You Greg Abbott and thank you to the state of Texas

Why are you openly supporting treason?

Allowing Texas to govern in its own way isn't treason no matter how much you disagree with the policy.

States do not have the authority to set immigration or border policy.

Google "sanctuary city," it's gonna blow your mind.

I did, and it told me how the Supreme Court has repeatedly either dismissed or rejected cases against Sanctuary Cities.

What’s your point?

[T'Chenka]

Republicans should pass the immigration legislation that Biden is asking them to pass, or STFU. They should also prioritize governing over helping Trump's election campaign. If the border is such a massive issue, as Republicans claim, then they should prioritize dealing with it.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Now, why would the Supreme Court do that if the federal government, as you suggest, has the sole authority to set immigration policy? Seems like something you've been repeating ad nauseam in these threads may not be correct. If it's helpful, you may think of Texas as a "sanctuary state" that has chosen not to cooperate with Border Patrol.

It was explained quite comprehensively for anybody who really wanted to understand.
It's one thing to just sit on your hands and watch and another to actively prevent somebody from doing his job.

[S019]

Why do we have four(!) threads on the same topic? Can a mod please merge them?

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